Drudge has a pdf showing Bush serve on active duty

[JohnnyMackeral]

http://www.drudgereport.com/bush.pdf

Sorry I dont know how to do an image capture, also sorry if
this an inapproprate breaking news post.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

1. wow Johnny..you really want to discredit this story, don't you?

After all you registered ALL BECAUSE of this story.

[JohnnyMackeral]

3. Yes I did

Because this election matters so much to me that I wanted to drop and let you know how I, as a national guardsmen and reservist would react to this type of campaign drivel. I want to see Kerry win, but if the DNC went down this road I and I know many other Guardsmen would not be happy.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

8. Well let's get down to the main point here:

Bush didn't show up when he should have. Kerry did.
Kerry saw combat. Kerry served with distinction.

What more is there to know?

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. you are a guardsman

then YOU have seen this for your two weeks of mandatory training, RIGHT, RIGHT... and YOU DO KNOW for all adminstrative purposes with BUPERS you are still considered a Guardsman, RIGHT?

Thought so...

Same thing with bush... this is Matt Drudge digging out his enlistment contract for his pilot training hoping people do not know the technical details I detailed above... RIGHT?

[JohnnyMackeral]

20. I am not a air guardsmen

I am an army national guardsmen. And guess what when I was over in Iraq nobody stopped and said "hey guardsmen come over here". And yes indeed before going over to Iraq I was a member of the US Army and the National Guard, says so on my paperwork, in my pledge to protect the consitution and obey the orders of the president of the US and the Governor of the State of AZ. You cannot seperate the two.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

16. well the story is from CBS..isn't your gripe with them?

[Liberal Veteran]

4. *snicker*

LOL.

[DBtv]

2. Johnny Mackeral, smells fishy.

Living under a bridge?

[JohnnyMackeral]

6. Nope

. Why are you assuming that I am some sort of troll? Because I am new here, and I am posting this particular article? Explain to me exactly hat makes me one. We are either united against Bush or divided against one another.

[Onlooker]

12. Some people here are awfully suspicious

I think relatively new people need to post some upbeat stuff in order to be trusted. That said, I agree it's better to link to the Drudge pdf than not, so we can see what the wingnuts are up to.

[blondeatlast]

19. Uhhhh...Citing DRUDGE, maybe?

Not the way to win friends here.

[Onlooker]

26. That's true, but ...

That's true, it's not a way to win friends, but it was a reasonable post. I'm glad to see it because now that it's in DU, I'm sure it will be be debunked.

[liberalnurse]

25. Johnny, you got to get a better line, better bait

and then, maybe we will entertain you a while....but at present, your attempt to be coy is noted as a miserable failure.


Tell me Johnny....Who are you voting for President in November?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

31. Because I have seen every one of your posts challenging stories

about whether Bush fulfilled his duties...some on the AIR FORCE thread and now this one attempting to discredit the memos...now..tell me...your guard buddies...aren't they interested in knowing whether Bush actually FULFILLED his duties? Shouldn't he be forced to prove it beyond "I said so, so it must be so?" Wouldn't you be in hot water if you failed to show up? Shouldn't he have been held to the same high standard during a war when 50,000 less fortunate Americans died prematurely?

Why is this such a sore spot for you and your guard buddies, Johnny? Is it because the military is still brainwashing young men into defending the CIC? Doesn't it embarass you to call this incompetent moron your CIC?

[displacedtexan]

5. Laughing my ass off here! It's the Training (boot camp) days!

It takes an idiot (Drudge) to act like this is actual, for real, genuine Air Force active duty.

Still laughing.

[mac56]

28. This is bogus. It's a MoU.

Doesn't prove a thing.

[Onlooker]

7. Looks fake to me

The form looks fake. I can produce something like it on my computer.

[Liberal Veteran]

11. I agree...I could make something like it in Acrobat in 5 minutes!

LOL

[Gelliebeans]

18. hey I just noticed something....

Johnny doesn't have a star...

[blondeatlast]

24. That's below the belt. Very bad form, IMHO. nt

[Texas_Dem]

10. Those fonts in your post look fake

wake me up when there is something real to talk about.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. what they are not close enough to TNR?

Snicker

:-)

[Sal316]

14. I saw this... I have 3 or 4 MoU's in my personnell file.

...including one just like this.

It proves nothing.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

15. Tomorrow Drudge will feature the Chimp's 12 purple hearts

the ones he got out of his box of Lucky Charms.

[bigpathpaul]

17. If Drudge has it, doesn't that make it fake, by default?

http://www.bigpath.net

[MidwestTransplant]

21. He wasn't...the US Code makes it clear

US CODE

TITLE 38 > PART II > CHAPTER 19 > SUBCHAPTER III > Sec. 1965. Next
Sec. 1965. - Definitions



For the purpose of this subchapter -

(1)

The term ''active duty'' means -

(A)

full-time duty in the Armed Forces, other than active duty for training;

(B)

full-time duty (other than for training purposes) as a commissioned officer of the Regular or Reserve Corps of the Public Health Service;

(C)

full-time duty as a commissioned officer of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration; and

(D)

full-time duty as a cadet or midshipman at the United States Military Academy, United States Naval Academy, United States Air Force Academy, or the United States Coast Guard Academy.

(2)

The term ''active duty for training'' means -

(A)

full-time duty in the Armed Forces performed by Reserves for training purposes;

(B)

full-time duty for training purposes performed as a commissioned officer of the Reserve Corps of the Public Health Service;

(C)

full-time duty as a member, cadet, or midshipman of the Reserve Officers Training Corps while attending field training or practice cruises; and

(D)

in the case of members of the National Guard or Air National Guard of any State, full-time duty under sections 316, 502, 503, 504, or 505 of title 32, United States Code.

(3)

The term ''inactive duty training'' means -

(A)

duty (other than full-time duty) prescribed or authorized for Reserves (including commissioned officers of the Reserve Corps of the Public Health Service) which duty is scheduled in advance by competent authority to begin at a specific time and place; and

(B)

in the case of a member of the National Guard or Air National Guard of any State, such term means duty (other than full-time duty) which is scheduled in advance by competent authority to begin at a specific time and place under sections 316, 502, 503, 504, or 505 of title 32, United States Code.

(4)

The terms ''active duty for training'' and ''inactive duty training'' do not include duty performed as a temporary member of the Coast Guard Reserve, and the term ''inactive duty training'' does not include

(A)

work or study performed in connection with correspondence courses, or

(B)

attendance at an educational institution in an inactive status.

(5)

The term ''member'' means -

(A)

a person on active duty, active duty for training, or inactive duty training in the uniformed services in a commissioned, warrant, or enlisted rank, or grade, or as a cadet or midshipman of the United States Military Academy, United States Naval Academy, United States Air Force Academy, or the United States Coast Guard Academy;

(B)

a person who volunteers for assignment to the Ready Reserve of a uniformed service and is assigned to a unit or position in which such person may be required to perform active duty, or active duty for training, and each year will be scheduled to perform at least twelve periods of inactive duty training that is creditable for retirement purposes under chapter 1223 of title 10 (or under chapter 67 of that title as in effect before the effective date of the Reserve Officer Personnel Management Act);

(C)

a person who volunteers for assignment to a mobilization category in the Individual Ready Reserve, as defined in section 12304(i)(1) of title 10; and

(D)

a member, cadet, or midshipman of the Reserve Officers Training Corps while attending field training or practice cruises.

(6)

The term ''uniformed services'' means the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, the commissioned corps of the Public Health Service, and the commissioned corps of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.



End excerpt........

[Wickerman]

22. So, Johnny, are we to ignore the paragraphs e, g, h and i?

Those are the money paragraphs - talking about what George agreed to accomplish in his training.

[MissB]

23. Dupe

RatTerrier was quicker, I think :)

[skip fox]

27. To hell with it, JohnnyMackeral, welcome to DU.

If you're not who you say you are, you'll be gone soon enough. No one can guage on the basis of a post like this.

I choose to treat people as who they say they are (i.e., not a "troll"), if I'm right I haven't alienated anyone unduly. If I'm wrong, well, like I say, they get rid of themselves soon enough.

So . . . welcome! :toast:

[mac56]

29. hear, hear

Hope you stick around awhile.

[Moderator]

30. locking

flamebait and insults abound..