Do you trust Obama with regard to Supreme Court Justice picks?

[Liberal_in_LA]

Poll question: Do you trust Obama with regard to Supreme Court Justice picks?

...or are we going to have to lobby hard to keep Obama from putting someone like George W. Bush on the court? ...in light of the Rick Warren pick?

[Neshanic]

1. Not now.

[Cali_Democrat]

3. Sucks for you

I'm sorry to hear that he's lost your trust, but that's your problem pal, not his.

[Generator]

10. Well I'd say absolute trust in any politician

even if his name is Obama is your problem, pal. The smugness of Obama uber supporters is snotty, and degrading. As much as "your side" is tired of the whiners-I'm tired of the Obama is a genius no matter what he does crowd.

CREEPY.

[Skip Intro]

same as it ever was...

[Cali_Democrat]

17. I don't have absolute trust in any politician, but I do trust him on the Supreme Court

Read post #6 on this thread

:D

[Neshanic]

No I am old and gay. It will suck to be you if he choses badly.

[Cali_Democrat]

25. If I choses badly then you are correct

But I trust him to make the right decision so I'm not worried.

But you are worried so it must suck to be a worry wart like you.

Too bad.

[Neshanic]

28. Stay off my lawn.

[Lyric]

26. Wrong. If enough of us lose trust in him, then it DEFINITELY becomes

his problem.

[Cali_Democrat]

31. Well I don't think a whole lot of people are going to judge him on who gave his invocation

I just don't see it as a pressing issue for a lot of people, especially in this economy.

I don't think the issue of Rick Warren is going to come back to bite him. No way.

He will be judged by what happens AFTER he's sworn in.

[WeDidIt]

34. IF 50% of the GLBT community loses faith in him

he cannot be re-elected.

[Cali_Democrat]

39. Did you not read what I wrote?

I think most people, including those in the GLBT community, will judge him by HIS OWN policies toward the gay community AFTER he's sworn in.

They won't judge him on who gives his invocation.

Obama is not Rick Warren and he will not govern like Rick Warren.

The poutrage on DU today is friggin hilarious.

[WeDidIt]

44. So you say

I don't happen to believe it will happen like that.

[scheming daemons]

62. Horseshit..... McCain got 27% of the GLBT vote.... another 23% is only a couple million votes

...and he won by 9 million.


Basically... 6% of the population is absolutely batshit crazy upset over this... and 94% is yawning.

[IndianaGreen]

36. Rick Warren is a harbinger of Obama's treatment of LGBT community

Obama doesn't think that gays and lesbian have the fundamental right to marry one another. That's bigotry, plain and simple!

[Cali_Democrat]

41. *cough* BULLSHIT *cough*

[mondo joe]

69. Donnie was the harbinger. Kirbyjon the confirmation. Warren the continuation. NT

[IndianaGreen]

13. Not now!

I wouldn't be surprised if Obama were to appoint judges from the rightwing Federalist Society.

[WeDidIt]

61. There's some reaching across the aisle. n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

2. I wish skinner would blow DU up....too many of us have gone off the deep end

[Kceres]

4. I'm really starting to wonder. n/t

[Hippo_Tron]

5. I trust him to give us another Ginsburg or Breyer, but I'd rather another Blackmun or Marshall

However, I'm not actually holding my breath on that one.

[NJmaverick]

6. Wow there are currently 13 ignorant DUers

that have no clue what Obama's stance on the Supreme Court is.


Tuesday, July 17, 2007
Obama on Supreme Court appointments: "We need somebody who's got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it's like to be a young teenage mom."

"The empathy to understand what it's like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that's the criteria by which I'm going to be selecting my judges."

[Generator]

15. Nice words

What he actually does is what matters.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

27. Now it's up to 31

[thewiseguy]

35. I am glad that folks like you are being exposed for what they are during these times

I hate blind supporters.

[mondo joe]

74. Why would I believe more claims from my "fierce advocate"?

Talk is cheap.

[WeDidIt]

7. Not any more. n/t

[Seen the light]

8. Why can't I stop clicking refresh to see the latest results of this poll?

Very interesting, thanks for posting this.

[Liberal_in_LA]

21. It's a tie!

[IndianaJones]

9. I trust him to select moderates. nt.

[Uzybone]

11. What Warren pick?

What exactly will Warren be doing in the Obama Admin? How do we go from Warren saying to prayer to questioning Obamas Supreme Court picks? This is insane.

[mtnsnake]

12. I trusted him to make a much better pick than he did for SOI

and then there was the dreadful choice of Warren so, I guess there's a chance I might be disappointed in his SCJ picks, too. I honestly can't figure out some of his choices, like picking that frigging Salazar for SOI instead of the Raul Grijalva, the man so many people thought was the front runner for the job. Oh well, shows how much I know about who someone will pick.

[depakid]

14. If you liked Clinton's choices, you'll probably like Obama's

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

81. that sounds about right

[NorthCarolina]

16. I find it impossible (and naive) to "Trust" any politician nowdays

except for maybe Kucinich.

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. Not any more

[chascarrillo]

19. I'll second that.

For so long, I've thought that I could rest easy with Obama as President and trust that he'd put honest-to-god liberals in his cabinet and on the courts. Now, I'm realizing that progressives are going to have to fight tooth and nail to get whatever scraps we can get.

I'm rapidly becoming disenchanted.

[jonnyblitz]

23. I don't trust him for anything. nt

[polichick]

20. Not if he's in his "reach across the great divide" mood.

[DJ13]

22. A little less than before he filled his cabinet with Clinton retreads

And the Warren issue.

Im just afraid he wont have enough balls to take on the far right in his nominations to the USSC.

[happychatter]

24. this is some crazy assed bullshit up in THIS house

it's beyond description

I mean it

words fail me

[chascarrillo]

30. You're telling me. I can't believe that so many people on here are in favor of endorsing bigotry.

It's really disheartening.

[happychatter]

65. nice to see you take an interest in the President

would you like me to give you my address so you can come over here and personally beat the living fuck out of me, even though I haven't done anything of a sort?

I think you would

and that's a problem

[Unsane]

29. Warren wasn't "picked" for anything; he is saying a prayer.

Do you dislike Obama's cabinet picks? Because they are whom you should use as a comparison.

[chascarrillo]

32. What, he just showed up and said "Hey! I'm sayin' a prayer!" and everyone went along with it?

Huh?

[Unsane]

33. It's a stupid analogy. Warren isn't a policy maker.

Why not make a relevant comparison, such as Obama's actual cabinet picks?

[mondo joe]

71. Not picked? Was it just his turn?

Fucking stupid.

[Unsane]

37. looks like 27 DUers need to 'go Green'

good riddance

[thewiseguy]

38. So do you still think Obama is an evangelical?

:rofl:

Is not that what you were teaching us last night?

[Unsane]

40. I never made such a post

[jonnyblitz]

43. he thinks that jackass Warren is mainstream!

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[Unsane]

45. best selling religious author in the country isn't mainstream?

Purpose Driven Life?

[Seen the light]

49. I guess Tim LaHaye is mainstream too? nt

[IndianaGreen]

55. Mein Kampft was also a best seller

It didn't make Hitler mainstream.

[IndianaGreen]

42. That's what the nazis said about gays: "good riddance!"

You are in good company there, bud!

[Unsane]

46. who is there left for you to vote for?

Nader? Who was the Communist Party candidate last time?

[IndianaGreen]

67. Communist Party wouldn't have a Rick Warren problem

And for the record, the Communist Party USA endorsed Obama in 2008, Kerry in 2004, and Gore in 2000.

[WeDidIt]

47. If the entire GLBT community went Green

The Democratic PArty would never win another election.

If you include heterosexuals who believe the GLBT rights issue is the civil rights issue of the 21st century (like me), the Democratic Party would die.

[Unsane]

48. luckily

the entire GLBT community isn't as fickle as you.

[WeDidIt]

51. Did I say I'd go Green?

Nope.

All I said is I no longer trust Obama's judgement in picking Supreme Court justices.

He has proven he has a judgement problem.

[Unsane]

52. yeah, because picking a an inauguration speaker is tantamount

to filling a SCOTUS vacancy.

lmao

[WeDidIt]

54. Historically, the person chosen for the invocation is somebody

who's views are supported by the incoming president.

That is demonstrative of a lack of judgement on Obama's part.

That he would pick such a vociferous advocate of Prop H8 after that abominaiton passed is also telling of Obama's poor judgement.

[Unsane]

59. Pass the pipe.

Obama's gonna win reelection whether you like it or not.

[WeDidIt]

63. You haven't watched politics for very long, have you?

You have no clue what will happen in four years.

He could win in a landslide that rivals Reagan's 1984 win or he could lose in a humiliation that rival's Carter's 1980 loss.

It'll all depend upon the conditions that exist in 2012, and nobody has any clue what those conditions will be.

A good portion of what those conditions will be depends HEAVILY on the next two years. If things get worse and he loses ground in the Congress in 2010, he stands a good chance of losing.

Onb the other hand, if the economic situation improves and he gains ground in the Congress, he'll be tough to beat.

Either way, he needs ever portion of the coalition he put together for 2008. Alienating a large portion of that coalition right out of the gates is never a good idea.

[BlooInBloo]

50. hahahah! They all come out.

[chascarrillo]

56. Yeah, I'm getting the feeling that you want to shove everyone back in the closet.

I guess you feel we belong there.

[BlooInBloo]

58. Who is "us"? And why do you think that?

EDIT: Oooooh - waitaminute! I think my phrase "all come out" has been radically misunderstood - I get it now! lol!

[WeDidIt]

60. Shut up and go back to your closet

don't you know the only time Democrats want to see you is for the time it takes for you to show up for the polls?

And to be honest, I wish that was just sarcasm. Sadly, the Democratic PArty obviously only wants to have anything to do with the GLBT community on election day. The rest of the time, they wish the GLBT community would simply disappear.

IT reminds me of how the Democrats treated the black community during the seventies and much of the eighties.

[ruggerson]

70. You've been very quiet about the Warren thing

why?

[Two Americas]

53. hadn't thought about that

SCOTUS was the killer, close the deal argument before the election - the big irrefutable undeniable reason why we had to be enthusiastic about the election and see it as vitally important.

Now, we have won and won with a big mandate, as the general public finally thoroughly rejected Reaganomics and the religious right. Yet one would think that the election was a referendum on the political Left, not the political right. One would think it had been the Left that was repudiated and banished to the wilderness.

I was completely confident about this until recently, but now, after hearing the justifications for reaching out to the extreme right, after seeing the Left trashed and dismissed again and again, and when I think about the anemic response to the Roberts and Alito nominations by the Democrats...

I have to vote "no." I do not have confidence about Supreme Court appointments anymore.

How come when they win, they win, and when we win, we don't?

[WeDidIt]

57. Your response should be an original post n/.t

[Shiver]

64. Surprise, surprise...

:eyes:

[ShadowLiberal]

66. What we should worry about is conservative versions of David Souter, not Obama

I trust Obama 100% with Supreme Court picks.

What I worry about however is Obama picking someone who everything THINKS is a liberal, but who then turns traitor similar to how everyone thought David Souter was a conservative, only to have him turn into a liberal on the court.

It was great for us that it happened and we got a liberal on the court, but what if we make that same mistake and put a conservative on the court? We'd be giving the conservative voting bloc their 5th vote if that happened, which is why we ought to be VERY careful with who we put on the court.

[QC]

68. Well, unfortunate things happen when Obama gets all reachy outy,

so we probably should exercise some caution.

[Maven]

72. No. At this point I believe he'll nominate someone center right at best.

[Tiggeroshii]

73. I'm sorry, did he pick Rick Warren for a position that makes decisions?

What am I missing? :shrug:

[Two Americas]

75. hmm...

Just how finely can these hairs be split?

Why don't we just withhold all commentary until historians have had an opportunity to thoroughly analyze and assess the administration - in, oh say, 50 years or so?

I mean really! Who are we to speak out? Who do we think we are? Free citizens in a representative democracy or something?

[Tiggeroshii]

76. Exactly.

Who are we to want to focus our attention to people who actually make decisions? To want to speak out about things that actually do matter?

Because look how ridiculous it is for the president to actually allow a person who he disagrees with to speak on a stage with him!

And how dare us for wanting to speak out about things like the new FEC chairman and the like, about people who are actually effecting the direction of this new administration?

I do think it's ridiculous we try to talk to anybody who disagrees with us. Don't you?

[JohnnieGordon]

77. Other: He might decide to go "post-partisan" and nominate a moderate Repug

It'd really be going over the line, so I don't think it's likely. But he's very committed to his post-partisan, centrist crap. One moderate Repug nomination is a definite possibility.

[Duer 157099]

78. A month ago I would have laughed at this question

Now I shudder at it.

[cboy4]

79. Actually, I don't right now....That's not to say I won't change my

mind, but Obama sounds like he's in the mindset right now of selecting at least one right wing fundamentalist .. just because he wants to give a proverbial hand job to the fundies.

Let's hope he gets his shit together.

[mmonk]

80. The mention of Cass Sunstein has always bothered me.