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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:00 PM
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Gay Activists Decry Pastor’s Role in Swearing-In - NYT
December 17, 2008, 7:27 pm
Gay Activists Decry Pastor’s Role in Swearing-In
By Sarah Wheaton

<snip>

The Rev. Rick Warren, a conservative evangelical pastor, has been tapped to deliver the invocation at President-elect Barack Obama’s inauguration – and gay rights advocates are not happy about it.

The Joint Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies announced today that Mr. Warren, of Saddleback Church in Orange County, Calif., and author of “The Purpose Driven Life,” would lead the opening prayers at the swearing-in ceremony. Though he is a prominent figure among religious conservatives, Mr. Warren invited Mr. Obama to speak at an 2006 AIDS summit he held at his mega-church, over the objection of abortion foes. Now, Mr. Obama is facing sharp criticism from part of his base for inviting Mr. Warren.

“Let me get right to the point. Your invitation to Reverend Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at your inauguration is a genuine blow to LGBT Americans,” wrote Joe Solmonese, president of the Human Rights Campaign, in a letter to Mr. Obama today.

“And by inviting Rick Warren to your inauguration, you have tarnished the view that gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Americans have a place at your table,” Mr. Solomonese continued, adding that Mr. Warren had spoken out strongly in favor of a successful gay marriage ban in California and “has often played the role of general in the cultural war waged against LGBT Americans.”

“This tone-deafness to our concerns must not be tolerate,” wrote Kevin Naff, editor of The Washington Blade, a gay-centered publication in the nation’s capital.

Linda Douglass, a spokeswoman for Mr. Obama’s presidential inaugural committee, said the upcoming ceremony would be the “most open and accessible” inauguration in history and defended the inclusion of Mr. Warren.

“Clearly, the president-elect disagrees with him on issues involving the LGBT community,” she said. But Mr. Obama has consistently stressed the need to “seek common ground with people with whom we disagree fundamentally.”

Ms. Douglass noted that the benediction, or closing prayers, would be offered by the Rev. Joseph E. Lowery, a civil rights icon who has expressed support for gay marriage, and that the Lesbian and Gay Band Association would march in the inaugural parade, the first time such a group would do so.

A message left after hours at the office of Larry Ross, Saddleback Church’s media director, was not immediately returned.

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Link: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/17/gay-activists-decry-pastors-role-in-swearing-in/

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:01 PM
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1. Please, PLEASE, DU the comments over there.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:04 PM
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2. I implore everyone who is against this to go to change.gov
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 08:06 PM by liberalmuse
I submitted my objections through 'My Story'. Please bombard the site if you are as upset as I am about this. I'm sure a lot of people will ridicule this, but I know many more understand exactly why this is so upsetting. It's like fucking Bush all over again. Day after day for the past 8 years, it's been, 'What fresh hell is this?' The Bushies have loved rubbing our noses in this reich wing shit, and now Obama with Warren? It feels like the same thing. ENOUGH!
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 10:08 PM
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14. Done. And I feel better about telling them I don't like it. n/t
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:10 PM
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3. Is Linda our new Dana Perino? Is she perky?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:14 PM
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4. Kick
This is a good venue to weigh in on.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:18 PM
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5. Rec'd~
Yes, post your comments on the NYT blog.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:24 PM
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6. k & r
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:27 PM
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7. I understand what he's doing, and it's more of a symbolic thing to say he's going to reach out to
the other side, it seems. I think a good way to make up for this though, and say he's open to both sides of an argument or whatnot, is to have a gay pastor play the same role in his next inauguration.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:30 PM
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8. So the message to gays would be, wait four more years?
Uhm, yeah, like that would go over well. :eyes:

DU, the source for really fucked up and bad ideas.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:31 PM
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10. Both sides? Read below....
"There is no reason to change the universal, historical definition of marriage to appease 2 percent of our population. This is one issue that both Democrats and Republicans can agree on. Both Barack Obama and John McCain have publicly opposed the redefinition of marriage to include so-called 'gay marriage,'" he added.

Our Prez O agrees. Rick says so. So there are no two sides. Rick is backing up Obama.

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/472086.aspx
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:34 PM
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11. reaching out means listening
not mindlessly abiding to their wishes. gay marriage isn't the only issue that saddleback guy cares about, i'm pretty sure there are things that they do agree on.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 09:15 PM
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13. No. One side EXCLUDES the other side. Excludes our very existence.
That's the problem with these fucked-up "it's about inclusiveness" rationalizations.

You don't show inclusiveness by picking someone whose ideology excludes.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 10:42 PM
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15. but you show openness by listening to their opinions
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:30 PM
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9. K&R
I'm all in favor of diversity, but not where it concerns bigots and homophobes.

Bad move by Obama.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:40 PM
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12. That column needs your comments, guys.
:kick:
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