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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:51 PM
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Justice Kennedy rejects 2 more challenges to Obama
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 12:55 PM by IWantAnyDem
Justice Kennedy rejects 2 more challenges to Obama

(12-17) 09:04 PST WASHINGTON, (AP) --

Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy has rejected two more efforts to get the court to consider whether President-elect Barack Obama is eligible to take office.

Kennedy on Wednesday denied without comment an appeal by Philip J. Berg, a Pennsylvania attorney, that claims Obama is either a citizen of Kenya or Indonesia and is ineligible to be president because he is not a "natural-born citizen" of the U.S. as required by the Constitution. Another appeal from California, based on Berg's claims, also was denied.

Individual justices and the entire court have turned down emergency appeals over Obama's eligibility at least seven times in the past six weeks.

Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961 to an American mother and a Kenyan father.

<snip>


SFGate Article

Still trying to find out if the second case was the Keyes case...

Edited to add: Second Case was Lightfoot v. Bowen:

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a524.htm
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:52 PM
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1. I'm sure Kennedy did comment on the appeal
but "Are you fucking kidding me you goddamn nutbag" can't be put on official court documents.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:53 PM
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2. Hahaha! I'm sure that's what he was thinking! nt
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:54 PM
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3. ~rofl~ without a doubt that was going though his mind
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:58 PM
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5. Literally laughing my ass off right now
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:58 PM
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4. How much are you guys willing to bet that the Freepers
are not going to give up on this? I am sure that they have other things in mind to keep the harassment going.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:03 PM
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7. Tehre are still lots of cases out there
The birth certificate cultists aren't done with this yet.

It's going to become a movement where they try getting alws that require proving you are a natural born citizen to gain ballot access in the states.

Quite frankly, I hope they do that. They'll collectively have head explosions in 2012 when Obama is on the ballot in all 50 states presenting nothing more than he has already presented.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:11 PM
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11. ..........
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:01 PM
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6. Doesn't matter the Electoral College voted
:woohoo:
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:09 PM
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8. Hmmm...where's *'s birth certificate? n/t
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:11 PM
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9. You beat me to it--because I was reading freeper reactions...
:rofl:

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:12 PM
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12. I love it! Teh birth certificate cultists are entertaining as hell
I love the way they are slowly being marginalized on Free Republic, too.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:16 PM
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13. What I'm seeing there is that one, two, or three
freepers will be up against a crowd of conspiracy theorists who can't bear to let this die. The few who try to get the crowd to come to its senses are doing so because they're embarrassed! :rofl: But the conspiracy theory refuses to die!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:18 PM
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14. They've apparently convinced John Linder (R - GA) of their lunacy
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 01:19 PM by IWantAnyDem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2150318/posts

John Linder to stand and object Obama at Electoral Count
12/17/2008 | Autumnraine

Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:05:48 PM by autumnraine

I read a post the other day that a Freeper got from Congressman John Linder, Georgia, stating that he would stand and object to Obama if he doesn't show proof of constitutional eligibility.

I emailed Mr. Linder and asked if he did indeed write that email and if he was serious about holding Obama to task on something as serious as this.

A few moments ago I received a phone call from Congressman Linder's office confirming that he intends to do exactly that and he is just as intent as us on verifying Obama's eligibility.

I told his staffer (very nice lady) that I was proud of him and that I appreciated his bravery as I know he is going against the tide with this.

She said that she herself was concerned as she had to show full, long form documentation to even work in the building for a Congressman and we shouldn't be told to just take someone's word for an office as important as POTUS.

Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that at least one Congressman is standing up to this, even if the SCOTUS doesn't have the nerve to examine what would seem to be a reasonable question.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:23 PM
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15. Oh my God...
That man is going to be in for some major embarrassment! I wonder if he'll bring up the fact that he was contacted by members of Free Republic?! :rofl:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:31 PM
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16. I wonder if the idiots at FR know they need a Representative AND a Senator?
There were plenty of representatives to object on January 6, 2001. The entire CBC objected. No Senaotrs objected, so nothing was done.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:34 PM
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17. They know. I saw some conversations pertaining to that.
They also know that it's unlikely they'll get any senator to touch this. That reminds me: I have to check the Georgia guy out! Should be fun.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:43 PM
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18. Linder won't touch it, either
There was another Freeper who called the office in that thread and Linder's office is already backpedaling.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:52 PM
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20. I'm beginning to get the idea that the executive assistants
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 01:54 PM by janx
in these offices tell the nutbags ANYTHING just to get them off the phone!

called my representative Brian Bilbray and informed his "executive assistant" (I forgot her name) what I have heard regarding Representative Linder's intention. I told her I wanted to urge Bilbray to join Linder. She said they are "very concerned" about the issue and were quite disappointed with SCOTUS' dismissal. She also said she was not aware of Linder's intention and said she would call his office right away.
35 posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:44:13 AM by SubstanceP

:rofl:

Edited to ask:

The post you mentioned--the backpedaling post--where is it? I can't find it in that thread and really want to see it!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:23 PM
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24. This one
To: autumnraine; pissant; All
I just called Congressman Linder’s office. The woman I spoke with, Sarah, said that he is considering the option of standing on Jan 8 and requesting proof. It’s not a for sure thing. He is keeping his eye on the issue and is hopeful that it will be resolved before Jan 8. She said that a written objection has to be made AND that written objection has to be signed onto by a senator.

God bless Linder and God bless America!

pinging pissant because he/she is all over this issue and I thank him/her for it. I’ve been tracking this issue and am grateful for your input.

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:25 PM
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26. "...hopeful that it will be resolved before Jan 8."
You're right. He's not going near it.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:28 PM
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28. He's apeasing the nutbags right now.
They'll all call him names on January 8 when he won't go into the tinfoil zone.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:30 PM
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29. .......I'm laughing so hard I'm crying!!!! n/t
:rofl:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:53 PM
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21. You do not need "documentation" to work in congressional buildings.
Flat out, abject lie. It's no different than any other job.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:34 PM
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30. And how does one go about getting the long form?

Ask the state for a birth certificate and they give you a certificate, not the long form. Do they even bother to save the long form once the information is in the database?


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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:35 PM
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31. They do, but they do not give it out.
They are asking the impossible.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 03:16 PM
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33. What the hell is a 'long form'?
I have my original birth certificate, my hubby's birth certificate and my sons' birth certificates that were issued the day after we were born - signed by the doctor the county registrar and sealed with an embossed stamp. What other kind of BC is there? I've never seen or heard of such a thing.

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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 03:39 PM
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35. I believe they are talking about a form the doctor sends to the state.

*We* get a birth certificate as you described with all the essentials. This is the only thing any human being outside of the doctor and state government ever sees.

But apparently there is a longer form the doctor fills out. I have no idea what this may contain: insurance, birth defects, etc? Certainly it is information that no white, male president elect has ever had to produce.


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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:11 PM
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10. Damn, these fuckers sure are persistent
They also happen to very aptly demonstrate the definition of insanity: repeating the same actions over and over in the hope of gaining a different result.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:47 PM
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19. "Obama is either a citizen of Kenya or Indonesia"
The guy can't even make up his mind on this.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:23 PM
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37. *Laugh*
Well, Berg (who at lot of these lawsuits are based on), claimed that Obama was born in Kenya. Later on, when his mother married Lolo Soetoro, both her AND Obama lost US citizenship as a result of her marriage and his supposed "adoption".

This is based on a horrible misreading of the US Nationality Act of 1940, AND a belief that Indonesian law trumps US law for purposes of determining US citizenship.

The site "What's Your Evidence" has a good breakdown of Berg's mistakes on this matter.

http://www.whatsyourevidence.com/
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:37 PM
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38. He should be the one
required to produce "proof." He's making the accusation. In law the plaintiff is the one who has to provide the proof.

I have seen no proof that Obama isn't a citizen; wild speculation isn't admissible in a court of law.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:06 PM
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22. As many here have said .... well, at least all this lititgatin' keeps these folks too busy to breed.
But I think of all the struggling families all this money could have helped ... all the money spent on lawyer fees for a bunch of bogus crap.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 03:04 PM
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32. It's helping out some families
Lots of lawyers have families.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:10 PM
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23. Was indeed Lightfoot v. Bowen....
And Dr. Orly Taitz, DDS, Esq., has already said she'll refile with Chief Justice Roberts - and if that doesn't work, then removing the "usurper" by "all means necessary"

http://drorly.blogspot.com/2008/12/lightfoot-is-being-resubmitted-to-chief.html

"I am writing an open letter to Chief Justice Roberts, I am resubmitting the petition to him. I could use an easy route and resubmit to Thomas and Scalia, but we already know that they are voting for the constitution. My concern is that twice during conferences the full court voted against the petitions, de facto against the constitution. At least 4 Justices had to vote yes for the petition to go to the oral argument. Since it didn't go there, it means that not only liberal Justices: Souter, Stevens, Bryer and Ginsburg and swing vote Kennedy voted against, but one of the conservative Justices: Roberts or Alito voted against as well, and I decided to zero in and see, which one is it. I need to resubmit not to Thomas or Scalia, but to either Roberts or Alito and by process of elimination, I will know which one is it. He will not be able to hide behind the conference anymore. I decided to write to Roberts. It will be an open letter, that will be posted on the Internet, it will be read at the numerous radio stations around the country, including the radio stations around all the military bases, it will be in the video form on U-tube, the whole country will be watching him. Roberts will not be able to hide, he will have to show to the whole nation, whether he is for the constitution of this country or whether he is ready to tear it apart in favor of some new world order conceived by a few bankers and the trilateral commission.

Additionally, Roberts has a duty to swear in the new president. This duty can be seen as a ministerial duty.

Lastly, the candidate needs to put his hand on a bible, that says that bear false witness is an abomination and I wonder, how Roberts, a Catholic, feels about it, based on all the massive fraud committed by Obama.

If at the end of the day our Judiciary, our law enforcement and our government fails us, we will have the right to remove the usurper using all means necessary. Our army is sworn to uphold the constitution, they have the right to remove the usurper from the White house to uphold the constitution, and we still have our second amendment right and we might need to use it to defend our rights and freedoms, guaranteed to us by our constitution.

POSTED BY ORLY TAITZ, DDS ESQ. AT 9:35 AM "


Yeah, she went there. I see a California bar complaint in her future - not to mention a visit from unhappy, unsmiling government agents with no sense of humour.


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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:23 PM
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25. She certainly did go there.
WOW.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:25 PM
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27. Orly is a fool
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 02:27 PM by IWantAnyDem
No Justice has dissented against the decisions in conference.

Not one.

Nobody on the SCOTUS is giiving them anything.

And Roberts will take it to conference.

And she really went there. She has blatantly called for violent overthrow of the government.

Unbelievable.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 03:18 PM
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34. From the link I posted earlier (this one is particularly nasty):
"To: Star Traveler

Okay, asswipe, We The People do not have the burden of proof, it is the affirmative action fraud who has the burden of proof to be eligible for the job the liar is seeking. And you show your sycophancy with every effort to twist the truth into the lie you prefer be the governing notion. So, stop wiping your nasty obamanoid ass with my Constitution. Your little messiah has the burden of proof to show he is eligible and he has spend more than a million dollars trying top prevent having to prove his eligibility. Thus he (and asswipes like you) are seeking to void the Constitution in order that the affirmative action candidate be ushered into the highest seat of power. It is becoming quite obvious what your little cabal is trying to do ... ‘let this one pass into office and work to change/add the law for later use’. You bastards know well that once your marxist affrimative action fraud is seated, there will be no recourse since your democrats control the means to remove the fraud. So, stop wiping your nasty obamanoid ass with My Constitution.

227 posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 1:07:30 PM by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 216 | View Replies>"
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:09 PM
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36. It's gone up....
First they claimed Obama spent $150,000
Then $200,000
Then $500,000
Then $850.000
And now "over a million" to fight these attacks.

Actually, there's no proof anything near those amounts has been spent.
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