Just so everyone can fully understand

[AllentownJake]

All that compromising and capitulating the democratic congress did for Bush over the past 8 years on everything from the tax cuts, the war, torture, the bank bailout has been paid back today with the auto bail out bill.

We act like wimps they'll treat us like wimps. These fuckers just voted to allow an American Industry die because they don't like unions. They would rather Japan assemble cars in Southern States than an American Company make cars in Northern and Midwestern states because of Unions.

Remember this day everyone. These fuckers aren't playing fair and they can't be bargained with. They are going to do everything they can to stand in the way of Obama.

Fuck you Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi for not understanding that these people aren't your friends and don't play fair.

[Captain Hilts]

1. I actually agree with this assessment. Reid is a wimp. nt

[The Magistrate]

2. Hear Hear, Sir!

[Sebastian Doyle]

3. Spineless Reid and Jellyfish Pelosi need to go

And anyone who hates unions, get the fuck out of the Democratic party, because you don't belong here.

[AllentownJake]

4. It's like watching the steel industry die all over again

In my town, which made the steel that built most of the sky scrapers in this country built before 1985, they have just erected a slot machine parlor (I don't consider a place that only has slots a casino) where the steel plant was 15 years ago.

[uponit7771]

36. WOW, I didn't know that ....I don't know how ONE PERSON can vote for a republican these days

[ROakes1019]

6. GRRRRR

Okay, now you're making me mad. Harry Reid did everything he possibly could to get the auto bridge loan bill through. Try watching the Senate on c-span something and find out how much this man really does for middle class America.

[Sebastian Doyle]

10. Well, he just put a million or so middle class Americans out of work.

Thanks Harry, ya mor(m)on! :eyes:

[AllentownJake]

12. If the fucker would have had a back bone earlier

Like the past 2 years or the 2 years before that when he was minority leader the republicans would be afraid to pull this shit now.

They rightly think he's a fucking wimp and therefore they can pull this shit.

[The Magistrate]

21. He Has Not Fought Hard Enough, Ma'am

These people need to be made to pay serious consequences, and they could have been laid out in advance.

[Windy]

5. agreed. They have just killed Michigan... where I live...

My husband's business, electrical contracting, that was hanging by a thread will probably go down the tubes. I am worried about my job as one of my lawfirms largest clients is GMAC auto insurance...

My property value will go down even more and there will be many more homeless here, and more on the welfare rolls.

These fuckers have just put this country into a depression....and all the media wants to talk about is blagojevich and made up ties to Obama...

[AllentownJake]

7. I'm so sorry...they've also killed Indiana and Ohio

and western PA.

[Windy]

9. agreed... and every state will be effected... not to mention the markets that will plunge tomorrow.

what in the hell is wrong with these idiots? The only hope is that Bush doesn't want the failure of american manufacturing on his head and will release some of the TARP fund for the auto industry. I won't hold my breath though!

[Sebastian Doyle]

14. CNN radio just reported that the Nikkei exchange in Tokyo is already down 5%

in just the few minutes since the news broke.

If you're walking down Wall Street tomorrow, be sure to look out for the jumpers. :scared:

[we can do it]

31. Down We Go In O-HI-O!

Thanks and merry xmas

[Andy Canuck]

34. And Ontario, Canada.

[1gobluedem]

32. My SO does music for US car commercials

His business is tanking too. It's the ripple effect that people aren't getting: this affects more than just auto execs and workers, it's waitstaff, barbers, landscapers, lawyers, day care providers, schools and universities, cashiers, convenience store clerks...EVERYBODY.

[liberalmuse]

8. My dem bashing is limited pretty much to these two. And Lieberman.

Jesus fucking Christ on a Ritz, these two need to get kicked the fuck out of their respective positions. I don't believe there has ever been as dramatic of an instance of 'Please, just let me bend over for you while you fuck me hard up the ass' like this in the Congress since it's inception. Dear Fucking God, if you exist, please rise Wellstone up from the dead.

Mark my words, people a hundred years from now will mark today as the day America entered into the 2nd Great Depression to end all Great Depressions.

[Sebass1271]

11. hOW DID LIEBERMAN VOTE

I WANT TO KNOW LIEBERMAN'S VOTE IN THIS SHIT. I DIDN'T SEE THE VOTES, I JUST GOT HOME.. BUT I AM FUMING ABOUT WHAT IHEARD ON THE RADIO ON MY WAY HOME

[AllentownJake]

13. We had 52 votes

Which probably means Lieberman voted with us.

[Sebass1271]

15. NOT one republican voted with us? FUCK REPUBS

they should ALL go to hell.. what about Olympia Snow?

[AllentownJake]

17. They don't make cars in Maine

All those fucking "moderates" only vote "moderately" when it doesn't matter.

[Sebass1271]

19. what the fuck is wrong with Maine? they keep electing this

republican right wing monger dressed in moderate clothes..

[AllentownJake]

23. Incumbency

and the dumbass democrats buy into the myth that they can work with them so they don't fund the race as much as they should. They should have done to her what we did to that fucker in New Hampshire.

[Sebass1271]

20. I just can't believe republicans want all those AMERICAN

workers out of their jobs.. it is freaking unbelievable to me, i knew they were evil.. but NOT this evil.

[Zynx]

22. They believe in market forces just that much.

They would be willing to be killed by them.

[Odin2005]

30. Because they don't care about Americans. They are TRAITORS.

:grr:

[bread_and_roses]

40. They want the UNIONS gone so we can all be serfs

...so we can owe our soul to the Company Store, as the song goes.

[Hokie]

37. 10 Republicans voted for Cloture (meaning to move to break the filibuster)

Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Collins (R-ME)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Lugar (R-IN)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

Some of them may have voted No if the vote were closer. It is hard to say.

[Stuart G]

28. Lieberman voted with us, so did Snow, Collins, and..Lugar.

Tester did not vote with us.

[Stuart G]

29. Also Dole, and Dommenici.,Specter,Bond Warner..here is a link to see who voted what

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00215

[political_Dem]

16. So who believes in the "spirit of bipartisanship" now?

And how about that "team of rivals"?

Enough is enough. No more capitulation to the Republicans!

[Sebass1271]

18. i can't fucking wait for Obama to come in .. i only pray he has

woken up from the bullshit of bi-partisanship.. this is war folks.. republicans want war!!..

[OwnedByFerrets]

24. K and R

[Lydia Leftcoast]

25. Yup, they're going to be just as obstructionist with Obama as they were with Clinton

and the Dems need to toughen up.

[ProSense]

42. Not likely.

When Clinton took office there were 57 Democrats in the Senate. Two years later, Dems lost nine seats ( I doubt that will happen in 2010):

103rd Congress (1993-1995)

Majority Party: Democrat (57 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (43 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 100

Note: Party division changed to 56 Democrats and 44 Republicans after the June 5, 1993 election of Kay B. Hutchison (R-TX).

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104th Congress (1995-1997)

Majority Party: Republican (52 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (48 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 100

Note: Party ratio changed to 53 Republicans and 47 Democrats after Richard Shelby of Alabama switched from the Democratic to Republican party on November 9, 1994. It changed again, to 54 Republicans and 46 Democrats, when Ben Nighthorse Campbell of Colorado switched from the Democratic to Republican party on March 3, 1995. When Robert Packwood (R-OR) resigned on October 1, 1995, the Senate divided between 53 Republicans and 46 Democrats with one vacancy. Ron Wyden (D) returned the ratio to 53 Republicans and 47 Democrats when he was elected to fill the vacant Oregon seat.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

105th Congress (1997-1999)

Majority Party: Republican (55 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (45 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 100

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106th Congress (1999-2001)

Majority Party: Republican (55 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (45 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 100

Note: As the 106th Congress began, the division was 55 Republican seats and 45 Democratic seats, but this changed to 54-45 on July 13, 1999 when Senator Bob Smith of New Hampshire switched from the Republican party to Independent status. On November 1, 1999, Smith announced his return to the Republican party, making the division once more 55 Republicans and 45 Democrats. Following the death of Senator Paul Coverdell (R-GA) on July 18, 2000, the balance shifted again, to 54 Republicans and 46 Democrats, when the governor appointed Zell Miller, a Democrat, to fill the vacancy.

[merh]

26. I'm proud to be the 5th to recommend your OP

:thumbsup:

[Dragonfli]

27. K&R

[AndrewP]

33. 100% spot on

[uponit7771]

35. EXACTLY!!! The CURRENT culture of GOP is NOT one to "deal" with but to choke out!!!

[tomp]

38. no, no , no! reach across the aisle, reach across the aisle!!!

and while i agree with your post in spirit, the repubs ARE the friends of reid and pelosi, but none of them are OUR friends.

[BrklynLiberal]

39. K&R

[MadMaddie]

41. We must push our own Senators to replace

Reid. He is ineffective and doesn't have the backbone that is needed to crush the Republicans when required.

He might be a nice guy, but we are beyond the nice guy phase.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

43. K&R

Thanks.

I feel the same way.

I think after this, I will leave DU for a while - the weirdness here is about to make my head explode.