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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:39 PM
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Hillary's Response the Cutout Poutrage
Jon Favreau has, apparently, "reached out to Sen. Clinton to offer an apology." No surprise there, but according to The Post, it doesn't seem like that was even necessary.

A Clinton spokesman described the photo as an example of just good-natured fun between former rival camps. The Post quotes Sen. Clinton's adviser Philippe Reines as saying, quote, "Sen. Clinton is pleased to learn of Jon's obvious interest in the State Department, and is currently reviewing his application."

No harm, no foul -- apparently.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/05/campbell.brown.c...

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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:41 PM
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1. Hopefully this will cause people to calm down
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:42 PM
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2. That comment was a joke.
Favreau was Obama's speechwriter during the campaign and was recently hired as Obama's Chief Speechwriter.

The phony outrage is trying to make an issue out of a complete non-issue.

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:43 PM
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3. Agreed.
It is so hard for some to let go.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:45 PM
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4. Why would some want to be so outraged? There is no election going on.
Sen. Clinton also works for Pres. Elect Obama.

It wouldn't seem like she'd want to get rid of someone that is valuable to the success of the Obama Presidency, as she is part of that administration.

What purpose would the phony outrage serve? I don't get it.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:47 PM
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5. No real point...
...but I love your avatar.

That cat is pretty cute.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:48 PM
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7. Thanks! It's a FrenchieCat! LOL!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:47 PM
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6. Same outrage over Obama's birth certificate.
Some people just can't handle a black president.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:51 PM
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11. Yeah...but the Birth Certificate Loonies are on the other side,
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 03:51 PM by FrenchieCat
so I can understand their problem and their agenda.

I don't understand the agenda in those soooo upset who are supposed to be on our side,especially since Hillary Clinton isn't upset, and considering that Favreau is a valuable member of the Obama administration. Why would anyone who supports Democrats want to make a bigger deal out of this than Hillary Clinton has? It doesn't make any sense to me.
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Balderdash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:29 PM
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35. What the fuck! What if it were Michelle they were
man handling? You should fucking know better. You have something of a following and people listen to you, whether they should or not and you do women no favors by making light of this. You set them up for more of the same. I'm totally disappointed in you.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:34 PM
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36. THIS IS SERIES!!!!!11!!
:eyes:
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:25 PM
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52. Why would it be any different if the cutout was of Michelle Obama?
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 08:26 PM by ZombieHorde
you do women no favors by making light of this

It does women no harm either.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:41 PM
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38. Well, some DUers seem to thrive on outrage, no matter how absurd or asinine.
And of course there's a lot of PUMA types pushing this story as hard as they can, simply because they hate Obama.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:39 PM
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25. It's a thinly veiled attempt by some here to make everything about Hillary
She's more of a mensch than many of her outraged "supporters". Now that she will be SOS and the controversy about that issue has died down, they want to drum up something to keep her on everyone's lips and to keep fighting everybody else over trivialities.
They need to get some sort of life.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:49 PM
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8. I saw that comment in the first article posted about this.
Thank you for highlighting it. I thought it was very witty and deadpan.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:50 PM
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10. It is a non-issue with everyone that matters.
A few dead-enders have a hard time moving on.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:47 PM
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27. I only got an hour of internet use this weekend.
I saw the "issue" starting to brew and all I could think was for the rest of the weekend was: "There's a flamewar about cardboard going on in GDP and I'm missing it. :cry: You were all in my thoughts though.
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:49 PM
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9. But she was groped in effigy!!!
Doesn't she know what message this sends to would be cardboard gropers around the world?!!!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:02 PM
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18. Doesn't she know what it was a personal insult to *me!*
:sarcasm:
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mwei924 Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:52 PM
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12. Hillary Clinton doesn't care about women's oppression!
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:53 PM
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13. Thanks for posting this for the 6th time. nt
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:53 PM
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14. I didn't see the other five.
saw only the ones calling for his head and acting like there was a victim here.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:12 PM
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23. waahhhhh
:rofl:
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stranger_with_candy Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:56 PM
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15. The issue still won't go away
Too many around here insist on making an issue out of nothing.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:59 PM
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17. But my question is why would some not want it to go away?
What good does it serve the Obama administration, which includes Hillary Clinton?
I don't understand what positive is brought by this non issue not being let go?

Again, I don't get it.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:08 PM
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22. PUMAs Never Give Up!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 06:39 PM
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32. It's fun to trash anything..
that has anything to do with President-elect Obama. The outrage is 'lock-step'-ish. I'm surprised there are not more posts about 'dissent' with the cardboard 'issue'.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:58 PM
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16. I guess there are a lot of people
who didn't see the ending to that "3 am" phone call campaign ad.

The part where she answers the phone and says "I guess we need to wake President Obama!"
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:02 PM
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19. I saw this the other day..I figured
most saw it but didn't care that Hillary wasn't outraged..they just had to have their daily fix.
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mwei924 Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:04 PM
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20. After they've made "nutcrackers" about you, I think stuff like this is like meaningless
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 04:04 PM by mwei924
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:06 PM
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21. That can't be right.
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electricD Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:13 PM
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24. meanwhile...
the cardboard cut-out's response, "I haven't been groped like that in years." :rofl: :hide:
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:42 PM
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26. What a
moronic response.

But then, DU has been as sexist as any other group of college frat boys.
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mwei924 Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:49 PM
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28. It's called humor. Check it out sometime.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:41 PM
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60. No, it is not
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:53 PM
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29. Hillary shows some class - perhaps she's not as sensitive as I thought.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:53 PM
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30. Very funny response from Clinton. n/t
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:31 PM
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31. At least Mrs. Clinton has some perspective and a sense of humor.
If only others exhibited similar traits.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 06:40 PM
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33. She is treating the incident with class. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:22 PM
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34. James Carville on CNN commenting on the grope-gate outrage
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 07:23 PM by ProSense
Video: It's a piece of cardboard, stupid.


:rofl:



Report: Obama's transition team said Favreau apologized, Hillary accepted, issue over.

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:40 PM
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37. You Don't See the Words, "Wise Up, Asshole" Buried In That?
Interesting.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:42 PM
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39. Sure, that was there.
But, I didn't see "Your career is over, you sexist prick."
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:57 PM
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45. Agreed
People who use that statement to say, "see, she wasn't offended," however, ignore the wider point of the statement.

She's practicing diplomacy as we speak.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:45 PM
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40. Proves my theory that it's Hillary's supporters who are the problem,
not so much her.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:54 PM
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41. Now there's an interesting revelation (snicker)
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:56 PM
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43. Wow.
I think you owe me a beer.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:57 PM
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44. Cross your fingers. Quick!
Make a wish!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:58 PM
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46. I See No Beer
Dammit!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:01 PM
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48. Thats because we both talked before making the wish dammit
:shrug:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:21 PM
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51. I Wished for Beer
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:55 PM
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42. What An Interesting Thing To Write
When you come across of a photo of any Clinton staffer snipping the balls off of a cardboard depiction of Obama, get back to me. Until then, that just looks like self-delusion.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:28 PM
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61. No, this is interesting
"Clinton staffer snipping the balls off of a cardboard depiction of Obama, get back to me"

Actually, that's completely bizarre. Cardboard depictions have "balls"?

The outrage has entered another dimension.

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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:01 PM
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47. Don't be fooled by Hillary's classy response
It's the kind of predictable classy response that someone as intelligent as her would come up with in a goofy situation like this.

But rest assured, Hillary will have that asshole's resume filed away in back of her brain for future safe keeping. She won't be doing him any political favors down the road. Quite the contrary. The Clintons never forget :smoke:
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:02 PM
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49. Or.....maybe she just has bigger things to think about right now
than some stupid facebook picture.

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:03 PM
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50. Indeed.
She suffers no fools.
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atimetocome Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:22 PM
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58. I believe you are right. Also, I have to think it hurt her to see/hear that photo.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:26 PM
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59. "The Clintons never forget " Ah, the enemies list?
Good thing Obama is President and he hired Favreau (and Hillary).

Report: Obama's transition team said Favreau apologized, Hillary accepted, the issue is over.


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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:05 PM
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53. It is the POUTRAGE of the WEEK, isn't it?
Call the wahhhhhmbulance. Someone's got hurt feelings.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:07 PM
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54. If Obama doesn't fire Favreau over this, and try to have him jailed
and maybe have the offending hand severed...then Obama should be impeached.

:sarcasm:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:10 PM
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55. I think that is the first time I've seen the 'sarcasm' tag
from you. I dig it! :thumbsup:

:hi:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:12 PM
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56. thanks!
I do use it occasionally. I actually thought about not bothering this time since it was plainly obvious. And then I remebered that there isn't that much difference between obvious and oblivious!

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:16 PM
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57. Well there is that side of it, married to Bill she maybe seen stuff curl most people's hair
Good thing Favreau didn't say something *really* stupid like, "Or I'll eat my shoes!" she'd have had to serve him 'shoe cake' like she did Tucker Carlson :rofl:

I'm so glad everything is better now :thumbsup:
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