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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:23 PM
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The DLC's definition of "the left": anyone who opposes corporate influence in D.C.
That's what it all really boils down to - the checks beltway whores receive from their corporate masters.

How can We The People stamp this national disease (corporate influence in politics) once and for all?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:30 PM
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1. apparently, there is no way.
under the current system.

corporations have learned how to effectively "game" the system, and unless you wrestle that power from them by force, they have no intentions of giving it up.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 03:57 AM
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24. Force is not the only way. We could actually use the ballot box. Nothing happens in this
country unless WE allow it. We are too passive with the rights that we already have. If someone took this nation by force, we'd be just as passive with them. No thanks.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 06:20 AM
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28. the ballot box is one kind of force.
however, the difficulty is we don't get to elect corporations, even though they run the govt.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:35 PM
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2. Theres only one way to begin solving this
But that requires a President with enough balls to tell the DLC to go F themselves.

And I dont see that happening considering the cabinet choices Obama has made so far.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:50 PM
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5. I didn't meant to offend honest-to-goodness prostitutes with the DLC comparison.
The former do have morals and a soul.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:53 PM
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6. that's ok, no offense taken.
:rofl:
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:32 PM
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11. Great tactic!
Insults make people want to listen to you more! I FULLY endorse your opinion! :eyes:
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:42 PM
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15. The difference between DLC and prostitutes of the sex worker variety--
-is that there are things that sex workers won't do for any amount of money.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:05 PM
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17. And at least the sex workers provide a useful service
Everybody needs to get laid. Nobody needs the DLC.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:54 PM
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7. LoL!
:spray:
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:42 PM
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4. Maybe Obama is over-compensating
I think Barack doesn't want to become (or be seen as) an ideologically-driven Left Wing mirror image of Bush/Neocon narrow hyper-partisanship.
Hence Obama Team's stampede to "the middle".

While there may be some wisdom in this approach, but it can be overdone, and I guess that's my concern.

I'm still not going to second-guess Obama, not until he's been in office for his first 100 days.
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:01 PM
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8. How can we stamp out corporate influence?
Buy not buying their products.
And letting them know about it.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:21 PM
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9. DLC = Democrats' Lingering Cancer!
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 04:22 PM by calipendence
We need some chemotherapy to get rid of this crap ASAP! It might be painful now, but it's absolutely necessary if this party is to survive.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:22 PM
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10. the next 8 years are going to be really hard for you whiners. nt.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:33 PM
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13. Whereas you whiners will have it easy? n/t
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:29 PM
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23. So are you saying that Obama is "Mr. DLC"
and that you're happy about that? What exactly is it that you're snickering to yourself about?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 07:25 AM
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29. Obama is obviously the first successful post-DLC Third Way/New Democrat
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 07:25 AM by wyldwolf
The New Democratic movement, or Third Way, is a policy and governing philosophy. The Democrat Leadership Council is it's biggest organizational arm. Obama is obviously not a card-carrying member, but he doesn't have to be to further the New Democrat agenda as his stated and written policy proposals and governing style indicates.

Sen. Corzine once wrote about the DLC, "while I shared its founding purpose, which was to frame a successful response to President Reagan's efforts to portray Democrats as the party of "tax and spend," social engineering and failed personal responsibility, I believe that purpose has been largely accomplished..." He also credited the DLC for the "foundation of fiscal stability that Democrats have built."

Obama's apparent feelings take that route even further. In "Audacity of Hope," he credits Bill Clinton for recognizing the categories of conservative and liberal have played to Republican advantage and are inadequate to address our problems. He says Clinton's third way goes beyond splitting the difference. It taps into the pragmatic, nonideological attitude of Americans.

I have invited many people on DU to do a comparative analysis of Obama's governing and policy philosophies vs. those of the DLC. So far, no one has taken me up on it.
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 07:38 AM
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30. And they won't...
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 07:39 AM by S_E_Fudd
Because they wouldn't like what they find...and I think they know it
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:40 AM
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32. And if there was a ready-made long-winded, bloviating rationale for corporate whoring in D.C.
your post was it.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:21 PM
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34. "ready-made long-winded, bloviating " .. speaking of which
:rofl:
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 06:11 AM
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27. I think they are going to miss...
....the bush administration. At least then there was something legitimate to bitch, piss, moan, and cry about from beginning to end. Obama hasn't even started yet, and they're already at it. As a matter of fact, it looks like they're getting an early start to insure another just like the last. Obama can survive a right wing movement to achieve this, but I don't know if he can survive a joint effort. He's smart, and tough though. We'll see. Thanks.
quickesst
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:33 PM
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12. The DLC are the guardians of capital against working people
They are the prototypical "limousine liberals", willing to bend over backwards for the wealthy yet hold open contempt for the middle and working classes. They are the "status quo" democrats that profit from war and misery.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:35 PM
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14. This thread
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:54 PM
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20. they're just upset at having, essentially, another DLC president
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:01 PM
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16. K & R
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:26 PM
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18. Don't worry! Obama's Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel will protect you from the DLC
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 05:27 PM by Freddie Stubbs
:evilgrin:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:53 PM
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19. Or his Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 06:24 PM
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21. Or his Secretary of Commerce Bill Richardson
;)
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 04:47 AM
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25. Arrrrrgggggh!
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:15 PM
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22. It's the corporations, stupid! nt
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:48 AM
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26. And the left's definition of "DLC": anyone who opposes what I believe is best
for "The People". ;)

I love it when the labels start flying from "DLC" to "neocon" to "facist" and all stops in between. Of course one can attach "sympathizer", "enabler", "apologist", etc to any of these terms to make the zing hurt even more
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Balderdash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:56 AM
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33. Bingo! nt
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:31 AM
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31. just a note...

The corporations ARE capitalism. They are not an abberation or abnormality, they are what capitalism does, seek the greatest possible profit, then look for more.

As for he New Deal, how's that loookin' today? They'll do it every time, it's their mandate.
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