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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:40 AM
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Hey kids, what time is it? That's right! It's FREEPER TEARS TIME!
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 12:17 PM by Occam Bandage
This means that it is no longer the democrats fault for what is to come.

Blame is and will be placed squarely at the feet of the Supreme Court of the United States.

I would say God help us.... but it looks like His response is I have seen how you (USA) would thank Me.

Bring your Judgement God... WE DESERVE IT!


Well..., its like Ive been saying before about the Supreme Court taking this up, about Obama being a natural-born Kenyan and not being qualified as President of the United States. The Supreme Court is not interested in resolving this issue right now but they probably will resolve it after Obama has served his term in office... LOL..

So much for the Constitution these days...



its worth nothing more than the paper it is written on anymore....



We will be hard pressed to deny anyone the Presidency in the future. This ruling means that Swartzenegger can run for President. Maybe even Valiente Fox or Cesar Chavez.

It seems the Constitutional requirement for citizenship has been deemed null and void due to the silence of the courts. With all of the questions that haven't been answered, the courts have essentially said "it doesn't matter". They've put the resolution of this question back into the hands of obama - and guess who ISN'T going to show us his b.c. voluntarily?

Based on the ruling (or lack thereof) I have decided - skeletons and all - that I am more eligible for the Presidency than Obama...and I even have a legal birth certificate...an American one...and I'll be glad to show it to anyone.


Other states will pursue this. Its not going away until we see a birth certificate.





Right now, the best way to fight it is w/ Senators and Representatives. Remember, in 2004, about 30 Democratic Represenatatives and one Senator raised objections (per 20th Amendment) when Electoral College vote was submitted to Congress.

All that is needed to raise the objection is *ONE* senator and *ONE* Representative to raise it, in writing, and then Congress is FORCED to address the issue.



Well its OFFICIAL: The United States Constitution is NULL and VOID!

Its been fun while it lasted!



So I guess now, Schwarzenegger could just run for president and no one .. no secretary of state .. no political party .. no elector .. would question his natural born status.

I want to see this Constitutional issue challenged and resolved, one way or another, for good.

How else are we to know what its meaning and value are?


Considering the directing that the Nation has taken and all other aspects, this action should surprise no one who is dealing with the reality of the situation.

The Nation that the Founding Fathers turned over to us is dead.


Alan Keyes has been wronged by this action, and has the standing to bring it to court. We have the facts behind us, and they MUST be heard.


No longer is it: We the People but rather...you people! (kooks, nuts, radicals, on-the-fringe fruitcakes)


They have just told us that the foundation of U.S. law does not matter anymore. We are being ruled.



And not only that: Guess who's to blame for this? BUSH IS!

I'm at a loss. Is President Bush in the tank for Obama? Does he not realize that he, the commander in chief, swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?
Why is he NOT spearheading the move to get to the bottom of Obama's Birth Certificate issue if he is NOT part of a conspiracy to destroy our society and make us all a part of his daddies "New World Order?"

Please. Help me out here.
Is President Bush really so vane and worried about his own legacy that he won't do what is right or will he go down as the last great liberal to let the Supreme Court decide America's fate.

What good is electing a leader that purportedly defends us and our Constitution abroad if he is letting our enemies destroy both the Constitution and us from within?

Inquiring minds want to know.


Lets see he is pissing off the Liberal progressive base and anti-war wackoos.

He already has enough dissent on this side, and now the man that ran on unity and transformational prowess is quickly becoming the most divisive President in history.

Your Hiding something Obama, you fool, you would rather set Law precedent to allow any non-natural born ot run for the highest office in the land then to just show your vault copy..

Must be something juicy on that vault copy for sure...

Most likely Obama is not his real daddy.


What legacy??? No matter what Bush did, he got shafted!
I just got through saying I think this is because God didn't want him to take any action against this.
That doesn't mean I think Bush even wanted to.

Bush to USA:
Up Yours America... I'm goin home!


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2144905/posts?...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2144908/posts

Edit: And new ones!

And wont EVERY law and EVERY move he made while President be null and void then???


Right on! Revolution is around the corner.........or some kind of eruption; I can feel it in my bones. The entire system needs to be gutted.


that document has outlived its usefulness...

Unfortunately, you are right, the Constitution is no longer taken seriously and the Justices are merely playing a language game and taking home their fat checks. I guess that is the situation for most everyone in this alternative PC world.

If you have your doubts about trickle down economics, how do you like trickle down dictatorship?


The end of our constitutional republic, not with a bang nor a whimper, but with the lack of courage in the men entrusted to uphold the constitution.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:42 AM
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1. By all means, Freepers--vote for Arnold Gropenfuhrer!
See where it gets you! Why the hell not?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:45 AM
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2. Begging for the Judgement of God
:rofl:

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:45 AM
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3. And now, the DENIAL Thread
Skip to comments.

Donofrio Case (Certifigate): STILL PENDING according to Supreme Court
Here ^ | today | self

Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 10:33:46 AM by DouglasKC

Is there still hope?

Legal minds needed.

This order list was released by the United States Supreme Court on Monday, 12/8/2008.

Near the top, in the category "ORDERS IN PENDING CASES" is this:

08A407 DONOFRIO, LEO C. V. WELLS, NJ SEC. OF STATE

The application for stay addressed to Justice Thomas and referred to the Court is denied.

But here's the thing. The application for stay is denied. But the case IS pending. The document seems to be separating out a certain number of cases as "Orders in Pending Cases."

For example, right below the Donofrio case is this:

08M32 PONEK, JOHN V. FLORIDA

There is nothing there saying anything is denied. The rest of the document contains no reference to this.

Question: Are these the pending cases and does this mean that the case is still alive and the only thing denied was the "stay" to stop the electors from meeting?

Legal minds and advise needed. Please weigh in.

What does this mean? Lawyers?



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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birth; certificate; obama
Lawyers please weigh in.

1 posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 10:33:46 AM by DouglasKC
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:rofl:

These idiots have no clue. Donofrio did NOT file a write of certiorari. He filed requesting a stay of the electoral college which would become a writ if accepted.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:51 AM
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9. "Legal minds and advise needed." ! They're gonna be
hard-pressed to find such minds on that board...

(oh, and it's 'advice', dumbass)
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:48 AM
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4. "Well its OFFICIAL: The United States Constitution is NULL and VOID!"
Yeah right... I wonder if that dumb Freeping son of a bitch said that on December 12, 2000 when there was actually TRUTH to the statement? :eyes:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:48 AM
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5. I have a serious question


Are these people allowed to drive automobiles?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:50 AM
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7. Driver's licenses are government interference in their God-given right to drive. nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:53 AM
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12. ah yes, the ole' Jesus loved his car parable.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:26 PM
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31. I have actually seen this argued on RW "Wake Up America" type websites
There was one that purported to show how the 10 points (or however many it is) of the Communist Manifesto had already been enacted in America, one of which was "government control of transportation and communications" - namely drivers' licenses and the FCC respectively.
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:51 AM
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10. LOL
THAT is the best one of all. Thanks for the chuckle.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:50 AM
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6. Actually, I don't think Cesar Chavez qualifies for the Presidency under any scenario...
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 12:44 PM by Bicoastal
...since he's been dead for 15 years.

Real intelligent, Freepers. :eyes:
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:12 PM
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24. I think they meant Hugo Chavez
But all Hispanics are the same as far as they're concerned.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:40 PM
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34. Cesar Chavez was born in Arizona
But as you point out, he's also been dead for 15 years.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:51 AM
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8. Them talking about paternity. Classic. Palin and her annunciation they forget.
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 11:51 AM by Neshanic
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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:52 AM
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11. Constitution is pretty clear
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Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:53 AM
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13. Isn't going to show us his b.c.?
Obama doesn't HAVE butt crack, you idiots...oh...wait. :blush:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:53 AM
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14. I truly don't get this.
Is it a racist thing? Do they assume that all non-whites are secret subversives?
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:58 AM
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19. Just grasping at straws
They're just clinging to that old rumor that Obama might not be a citizen, even though it was debunked ages ago.

You know, even my 83 YO mom gets the vetting process--she always says, "If he wasn't a legal citizen, how would anybody have allowed him to run, let alone win?"
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:25 PM
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30. The answer to that question is
a big affirmative.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:56 AM
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15. This deserves it's own FRUzy
"Well its OFFICIAL: The United States Constitution is NULL and VOID!

Its been fun while it lasted!"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Staph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:56 AM
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16. Asking for logic from a Freeper is asking for the moon, but
Alan Keyes has been wronged by this action, and has the standing to bring it to court. We have the facts behind us, and they MUST be heard.


How on God's green earth has Alan Keyes been wronged by the Supremes' decision on this? Because he ran against Obama for the Senate four years ago? Because he is also a black man? Because he has the IQ of a large bunch of asparagus? Inquiring minds are terribly confused!

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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:57 AM
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18. I have no idea. That confused me also. nt
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:12 PM
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25. Please do not besmirch large bunches of asparagus
by comparing them to Alan "My Hands Can Touch Anything But Themselves" Keyes.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:24 PM
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29. I think the argument is
That Allen Keyes was on the ballot in California.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:45 PM
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Please don't cast asparagus on asparagus nt
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:57 AM
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17. bwahahahahahaha!!! yes, yes, sweet salty tears...
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 11:57 AM by Soilent Brice
yes, yes, sweet salty tears...



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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:59 AM
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20. "its worth nothing more than the paper it is written on anymore"
Since when do they believe in the Constitution? What happened to Shrub's executive privilege and Cheney's view that the VP is part of the legislative branch?
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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:09 PM
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23. I think that's a direct Cheney quote
Wasn't he the one who said it's just a piece of paper?

The fact that they don't get the irony of this cracks me up!
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:26 PM
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32. It's not written on paper anyway...

History is not their strong suit.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:00 PM
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21. "Please. Help me out here."
Glad to! Shall I smack you in the head with a 2x4 every time you say something demonstrably (sorry, that was a tough word) really, really false? And keep smacking you when your faith in what you would like to be true overrules what your senses can tell you is actually true? :spank:
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:56 PM
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45. It's not going to happen
These are not reality-based people. They live in their own little make-up world.
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:07 PM
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22. Yes, they just can't seem to figure out...
that courts DID look at his birth certificate, and it is/was fine. Obama is not going anywhere, get used to it Freepers!!
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JimWis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:13 PM
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26. LOL. Thanks for the post. It's a laugh a minute reading what those
idiots write. They are nuttier than a fruit cake.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:16 PM
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27. Somebody tell these people Cesar Chavez has been dead for 15 years.
lol

And who is "Valiente" Fox?

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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:22 PM
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28. I find their sudden concern for the Constitution hilarious.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:40 PM
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33. Let me taste your tears, Freepers!!!
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 12:43 PM by backscatter712
Mmmmmm, your tears are so sweet and yummy!!!

Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness!!! Mmmmm-yummy!!!! MMMMM-YUMMY!!!!!!

(edit: dammit, beaten to Scott Tenorman!!!)

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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:41 PM
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35. Apparently they are putting their faith in the Political Story about how "the left" is pissed off at
Obama.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:44 PM
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36. So, Bush is in the tank for Obama and the Left will rescue the Freepers?
lololol
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:45 PM
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37. Good, let 'em buy into that myth
Gives us more sweet, salty tears to savor when the truth is revealed. Idjuts.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:52 PM
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38. Isn't this ironic? Where were they with all this distrust of the SCOTUS
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 01:01 PM by political_Dem
during the outcome of the 2000 election?

Sometimes I feel like asking these idiots whether they love America or not. I've lost count how many times conservatives have asked me the same thing when I've had a criticism of Bush and his policies during these eight, long years.

It's time for them to get used to the fact that there's a new sheriff in town.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:53 PM
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39. LOL! "Is President Bush really so vane..."
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 12:55 PM by Window
"Please. Help me out here.
Is President Bush really so vane and worried about his own legacy that he won't do what is right or will he go down as the last great liberal to let the Supreme Court decide America's fate."


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:55 PM
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41. Jinx
You owe me a Coke.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:00 PM
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42. LOL!
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:41 PM
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44. The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind....
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 06:05 PM
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47. One of the freepers pointed out vane, too. nt
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:54 PM
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40. "Is President Bush really so vane..."
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:28 PM
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43. the idiots who rail like that never know anything about constitutional law
It would be like asking a constitutional lawyer "can you please explain worm holes and quantum physics?" It helps if the person offering an opinion has expertise in the area on which an opinion is sought. That's why some rightwing insurance salesman or plumber is hardly the person to give an opinion on the meaning of the constitutional provisions.

There's a reason we keep track of all the Supreme Court decisions since day one. THOSE are the opinions which count.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:59 PM
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46. I stopped when I read "Valiente Fox." (It's Vincente, idiot.)
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 06:00 PM by Writer
:rofl:

He must think that the former President of Mexico is Pancho Villa, or something. "El es VALIENTE!"
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