Could you look Hillary in the eye after posting this pic?

[greguganus]

"Senator Clinton is pleased to learn of Jon's obvious interest in the State Department, and is currently reviewing his application," he said in an e-mail.



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/12/04/o...

[Cronus Protagonist]

1. After a sincere apology only

YMMV.

[Cha]

2. That's such a different Jon Faveau than

the one who directed Ironman

[JI7]

3. how about the other way around ?

could Hillary work with him after seeing that ?

[zulchzulu]

4. Alcohol and someone taking photos on an iPhone make for interesting artifacts

I had some people kiss my Obama cut-out with tongue... and no, I won't post those photos.

[crispini]

5. this is why you DON'T POST STUFF ON FACEBOOK.

Should have thought he would have known that!!!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. I wonder why Hillary looks so glossy in that photo.

But I'm glad to see the drunken fraternizing wasn't just a campaign stunt on the primary trail.

[SIMPLYB1980]

68. Kinda like Obama isn't she.

Adults drink! OMG stop the presses!

[Westegg]

7. I'm sure Favreau's a genius and all, but...

...this is stupid and childish behavior from anyone, let alone a high-ranking member of the Obama Administration. Frankly, it depresses me a lot. Okay, the guy's 27. But given his accomplishments thus far, and the faith Obama has put in him, he's not supposed to be acting like an overgrown frat boy. He better smarten up quick. Honestly, I don't get it. What's this say about his judgement? Sorry. Not impressed.

[Liquorice]

28. I agree. He looks like an idiot and a lecher. The other guy

in the photo is also not doing Obama any favors by behaving that way while wearing a shirt that identifies himself as "Obama Staff." Jeez.

[Skittles]

63. it is indeed pathetic

[PresidentObama]

8. Hillary Gone Wild. Someone post the graphic LOL n/t

[Saturday]

9. Jon Favreau needs to be fired for being stupid.nt

[Sidney J Mussburger]

10. It's a cardboard cutout

big fuckin deal. Get off your High Horse.

[JI7]

11. still in bad taste

especially for the position he is in.

[Sidney J Mussburger]

14. No shit

But it shouldn't get him fired.

[greguganus]

12. Is it a cardboard horse? n/t

[Sidney J Mussburger]

15. No, but it'd be no different if it were a picture of him

mounting a cardboard horse.

[ProSense]

13. At least he wasn't waving a drink in the air.

[MyNameGoesHere]

24. And then this

Asked about the photos, Favreau, who was recently appointed director of speechwriting for the White House, declined comment. A transition official said that Favreau had "reached out to Senator Clinton to offer an apology."


Hey that axe of yours should be pretty well down to nothing by now? Hey but keep grinding, everyone needs a hobby.

[ProSense]

25. So obviously the comments about him deserving to be fired are over the top, huh? n/t

[MyNameGoesHere]

46. Hey I give him a break because he is a baby

still, made an attempt to apologize, and acts civil. But nothing wrong here keep grinding that baby away.

[Clintonista2]

27. Don't look now, but your hypocracy is showing again...

[ProSense]

29. Those are cool. Thanks. The word is "hypocrisy."

I hate spell check police so correcting you is "hypocrisy" or sarcasm.

[Clintonista2]

30. You're welcome!

[No Elephants]

34. Sorry, no comparison between these photos of Obama and the photos of Hillary in post #13. None.

[Clintonista2]

36. Whatever you say

[Beacool]

39. How so????

Two candidates campaigning, both raising their drinks?

Oh yeah, the difference must be that one is Hillary and the other one is Obama.

Got it........

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

42. Barack Obama isn't a phony hack when he does it.

[Beacool]

44. I call bullshit when I see it.

A pile of manure.

[musicblind]

59. And how is Hillary a phony hack when she does it but Obama is not?

geesh

[AndrewP]

69. LOL

Same thing I thought.

[Beacool]

35. Checkmate!!!

[ProSense]

37. How is it in there? n/t

[Beacool]

41. Because you tried to put down Hillary by posting pics

of her drinking in IN and someone else posted similar pics of Obama also waving his drink in the air.

Same thing, different candidate. If its' good for the goose, the it's also good for the gander.

[rvablue]

16. What a dumbass move from such an intelligent and eloquent young man

but then again he is young and so I forgive him.

He already reached out and apologized and while the pic is offensive, Hillary is known to have a sense of humor.

Why the WP felt the need to publish this is so, so, so tabloid.

[Beacool]

38. If Hillary sees the picture, she'll probably laugh her butt off.

She does have a great sense of humor.

Though, it was pretty stupid for this guy to post this picture on his Facebook page.

[Karenina]

50. I DID!

I read the thread before going to the link to see the infamous picture in question. I sincerely doubt Hillary reacted poorly to it. The last line is a hoot! So is this thread!

[karynnj]

17. He is an incredible writer

This does not show him in a good light - but, it is not that serious and he apologized to Clinton. There are things Hillary herself did in the primaries that were far worse and mean spirited. At worse, it may mean that he won't be asked to write speeches for HRC to give - which would be her loss.

[Phx_Dem]

18. I assume Jon will understand if she chooses not to hire him

after seeing this photo. I know it was probably done in fun, but it's very unprofessional.

[ProSense]

21. " if she chooses not to hire him"

He's Obama's speechwriter.

[Phx_Dem]

43. Right, but I understood that he was "applying" for a position

in the State Department, which is Hillary's domain (or will be), so I assume she'd have some say in who is hired. But the issue appears moot because I've read elsewhere that he's been hired. No grudges from Hillary.

[karynnj]

47. umm. I think that was a joke

He is Obama's director of speechwriters - recently announced.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. shoot - thought you were talking about "Jon" Stewart.

[ieoeja]

20. Threads like this depress me.

I like to think I am with the people who put the party into Party politics. Republicans are the party of the Moral Majority and who raised the drinking age, pushed MADD upon us, keeps ramping up the war on some drugs, etc.

But then I see these threads and find so many prudish people who wouldn't know a good time if it hit them.

On the other hand, at the point I write this it seems split about 50-50 which is better than usual.

[Westegg]

23. Hey, I'm not a prude, and if you can drop acid...

...and pitch a no-hitter in the Bigs, you are sweeeeeet! (Thank you, Dock Ellis.) In fact, I partied harder than almost anyone in the '70s, '80s and '90s-- and I have no evidence Favreau was drunk/stoned/ripped/whatever when that picture was taken. It was just a dumb-ass thing to do. End of fucking story. Do I think he should be fired? No. Do I think the guy should get his shit together? Uh, yeah.

[camera obscura]

57. I agree and I find it kind of hypocritical

because I'm sure anyone who's gone to a party and gotten drunk has done something silly/stupid in front of their friends and regretted it at least once.

And if you haven't, well, you need to go to better parties

[AtomTan]

22. It's so interesting to watch the clash of backstage and onstage personae

that the web makes possible. Think of how many college and even high school kids right now are posting things online that they will regret in ten or twenty or fifty years. We've still got a lot of adjusting to do, and I hope it's in how seriously we pretend to take the bullshit facades we all put up, politicians especially.

[Clintonista2]

26. He made a bad choice and apologized. As far as I'm concerned, it's in the past. However...

You would think that by now people like that would know not to post stuff like that on their facebook page

[PresidentObama]

33. Especially someone such as himself. It's just asking for it.

Poor judgment, but you're correct. He apologized, let's move on.

[mwei924]

31. Anyone who's 27 and doesn't have some drunken picture posted somewhere has no life.

[musicblind]

60. I have a one hell of a rollercoaster life that is filled with accomplishments

and have not had a single drunk picture of me taken. Ever. I'm 26 and do not drink alcohol. I prefer to stay in control of my own body and its actions. I have no problem if someone drinks or gets drunk. Most of my friends and lovers do. However, it's a broad statement to say ANYONE. Perhaps you should say "most people".

[Darth_Kitten]

65. Sorry, lots of people don't have to drink and be stupid to have a life.

Being a drunk isn't a life. Just saying.

[ddeclue]

32. Umm..it's cardboard????

Are we really going to go nuts over a piece of cardboard at a party?

[Johonny]

40. yes

[gardenista]

45. Ya know what?

Hillary Clinton married Bill Clinton. You don't do that if you don't have a sense of humor.

Yeah, he was probably drunk and/or blowing off steam, having a good time. It's actually a funny pic, and the cutout certainly looks like she's enjoying herself.

Hillary will look at him sternly when she first meets him, make him grovel, and then give him a big smile.

It's not a big deal, and certainly not a deal breaker.

[CitizenPatriot]

48. chillax peeps

just think, if that were Palin, she'd have been winking her excitement over being thought hot enough to grope in a cardboard cut out kinda way.

I love Hillary's sense of humor here. It says so much about how well she handles herself, and how she knows when to make an issue out of something and when not to. Oh, I give thanks everyday that we're not dealing with the Palin; her whine would drown out the auto makers and we'd be dealing with her feelings for the next four years instead of real issues.

Thank you Universe!!!!!!

[Window]

51. Amen.

[Mushroom]

49. Oh YUCK, that wasn't very classy

I think that after Hillary saw that picture, whatshisname won't be tall enough to look anyone in the eye.

[blogslut]

52. SoS-Designate Clinton gave a great response.

As well, I gotta say that "reached out to Senator Clinton to offer an apology", is one hell of a zinger.

The Washington Post doesn't say who uploaded photo(s) onto Facebook but it does a handy job of conflating Favreau's FB account with the short-lived posting of the picture(s). Other than that, anyone who is shocked by this pic has never spent time observing inebriated young men.

[Beacool]

54. Me thinks that Favreau has done enough "reaching out" to senator Clinton.

Just saying........

[cap]

53. Favreau knew he was going to have to work with Hillary after the election

one way or another... those 18 million votes count for something.

I think he was incredibly stupid...but he also needs some education in terms of what women find offensive.

I don't think he would have liked his girlfriend, sister, wife, or mother treated this way especially by someone with whom she would work with in the future.

He's on the national stage and knows he needs to take sensitivities into account.

[FrenchieCat]

55. I'm writing it off as youthful indiscretion.

cause with young people, as far back as history would show,
shit happens.

If one isn't forgiven for what they do at age 27,
then we are going to be in very bad shape in the future,
if we shelve our best and brightest based on the sillyness
they might participate in at a relatively young age.....
and 27 is young enough.

It reminds me of how the Federal Government has that Bush rule,
that young people who say they have taken drugs,
can't apply for financial aid.

[Balderdash]

70. So, you'd be ok if the cutout was of Michelle? nt

[otohara]

56. LOL - Silly

genius boy.

[jesus_of_suburbia]

58. As a Hillary supporter, I don't care. He should have known better, but I doubt he meant

anything bad with it.


It's usual heterosexual male drunken tomfoolery.


Yes it is very tacky to have your picture taken while doing it.



I really think it depends on what he thinks of Senator Clinton.



If certain members of this board who hate Sen Clinton had done it, I'd be furious. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

[musicblind]

61. I'm 26 and I think having someone so young as a speech writer isn't the best idea

Not because he isn't an incredibly talented speech writer... he obviously is... but because of reasons such as this. I am sure there is a speech writer out there who possesses just as much talent as he does but is 34 or 40 or something. Maturity does matter.

[GarbagemanLB]

62. Yeah. This guy only helped write key speeches on an historic record-breaking campaign. Easily

replaceable.

[Darth_Kitten]

64. Well, if one thinks american females who voted aren't to be taken seriously....

then maybe one isn't the right choice.

[musicblind]

67. Oh and of course NO ONE ELSE with a higher maturity level would've been able to write those speeches

and do just as good a job

[w4rma]

66. Gotta admit, it could be a great ice-breaker, or at least a really interesting one. (nt)