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No Passaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:46 PM
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Oh No! What will the FreepTurds do now?? Obama's "birth certificate" issue DEAD at Supreme Court
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 01:24 PM by GA Democrat
:rofl:

The Court granted certiorari in two cases al-Marri v. Pucciarelli (08-368) and Gross v. FBL Financial Services, Inc. (08-441)

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp /


I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY GOT WORKED UP OVER THIS. I'M GONNA MISS THEIR CRAZY POSTS AND HAVING A LAUGH EVERY MORNING AS I READ THEIR CONSPIRACY THEORIES


(ORDER LIST: 555 U.S.)
FRIDAY, DECEMBER 5, 2008
CERTIORARI GRANTED

08-368 AL-MARRI, ALI V. PUCCIARELLI, JOHN
The petition for a writ of certiorari is granted.

08-441 GROSS, JACK V. FBL FINANCIAL SERVICES, INC.
The motion of National Employment Lawyers Association for
leave to file a brief as amicus curiae is granted. The petition
for a writ of certiorari is granted.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:48 PM
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1. NOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been having too much fun with this!

They can't let it die now!
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:50 PM
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2. Is it possible that another Justice can look at it?
They already went to 2 Justices. Can they keep going?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:55 PM
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4. no. that was the whole point of having Thomas refer it to the court
If Thomas had simply denied the petition, the nutjob filing it could have gone to another justice and then to another and so on until he'd hit them all. And then he'd still have the opportunity to file his petition for ceriorari (what he has filed at this point is not his petition for certiorari, its an emergency petition for stay pending his filing of his certiorari petition). Sending the matter to the full conference gave it the option of treating the stay petition as if it was the certiorari petition itself and to deny it. So at this point, the nutjob is done, over and out. And to the extent that other nutjobs come forward with similar cases, the fact that cert was denied by the full court here means that future petitions can be essentially decided by the justice's law clerks, who take most petitions, divide them up, and make recommendations that are generally summarily followed by the court.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:01 PM
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7. Thank you very much
It's good to know that this case is finally dead.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:21 PM
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13. I guess I owe Thomas an apology.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #13
47. No - he's still a flaming asshole for taking this up when one of the
other justices turned it down initially.
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:13 PM
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53. Not really - this was standard operating procedure, according to the SC experts
If someone is turned down by own justice but refiles again with another, it's apparently extremely commonplace for that second justice to just go ahead bring it up to the full court. That way the person doesn't keep going from one justice to the next 9 different times.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 10:41 PM
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56. wrong.;he's a flaming asshole but not for how he handled this
He handled this exactly the way any other supreme court justice would have. If you're the second justice getting an emergency petition for relief, the standard practice is to refer it to the court so it can be disposed of once and for all.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:54 PM
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3. I wonder how they will justify it. All the judges sold out to Obama, right?
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:35 PM
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17. No, it's "in the tank" for Obama.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:46 PM
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18. Oh, riiiiiiight. I had forgotten about that one.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:23 PM
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50. Yes, I wonder how they explain Thomas being in the tank for Obama
Is there anything that Clarence Thomas and Barack Obama have in common that the Freepers might conceivably have picked up on? :shrug:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:27 PM
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51. Gender is the best I can come up with. That is it.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 12:39 AM
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57. They are both married.

You're right. Something of a mystery here.
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camera obscura Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 12:42 AM
Response to Reply #50
58. That's obvious...
... they both went to law school.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:40 PM
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22. It's a massive, massive, massive conspiracy.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #22
42. Wrong idiot!!!
I's a massive, massive, massive, massive conspiracy.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #3
32. "ZOMG!! John Roberts iz secretley black!!1!"
:rofl:
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:06 PM
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43. The SC judges are afraid of riots and civil war

...as if.

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:55 PM
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5. My "wake up" radio station has been talking about it non-stop for a week
Before that they spent months and months talking about Recreate-68. Sucks to be them. :)

BTW, I only wake up to this RW crap because I have a long-term bad habit of falling asleep to Art Bell which is on the same station.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:43 PM
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23. Doesn't listening to Art Bell before you go to sleep
make you dream about alien abduction?

OT: I've figured out the reason most drawings of aliens look alike, and realized what's REALLY sitting on your chest when you wake up unable to breathe.


The typical alien head:


Now, here's the image I see sitting on MY chest staring at me when i wake up in the middle of the night:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 04:22 PM
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29. That's pretty funny.
:)

No idea why it works, but it actually makes me fall asleep much faster. I tried listening to jazz for a week and I ended up paying attention to the music instead of falling asleep.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:57 PM
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6. Are there any reaction threads up yet?
I can hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth from here.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:03 PM
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8. They're in denial already, waiting for Monday
The official denial list isn't released until Monday, so....

To: Aquinasfan
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/12... "; This deserves a thread.

Actually it doesnt! It does not mean that they have denied anything just because the case wasn't put on todays list. From what I've heard, they may not know until Monday. Heck, Berg hasn't even found out anything yet. He still hasn't had his case listed as denied and his was on December 1st.

396 posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 12:56:55 PM by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 379 | View Replies>
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:06 PM
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9. The RW version of "truthers" -- this is never going away.
They're just going to keep up a low rumble of stupidity and it will become an article of faith that Obama is not actually a "natural born" citizen on certain odd corners of the web. :eyes:
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:57 PM
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20. Exactly
it will become an article of faith that Obama is not actually a "natural born" citizen on certain odd corners of the web.

Anyone who thinks that a stupid old Supreme Court ruling has put an end to this foolishness is delusional. The Freeper Fools are already planning to "pledge to NOT help the economy" over this.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2143540/posts?...

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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:01 PM
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21. Heh, read that thread all the way through
"This matter is poetic justice for John McCain. His support of illegal immigration has indirectly resulted in an alien outlaw defeating him and becoming U.S. president. " :rofl:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:33 PM
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41. Oh noes! Porta-potty shares crash on that news!
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:13 PM
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10. There were a few "concerned" over here as well
:hi: crispy!

dg
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:37 PM
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19. Multiple threads, including a "Live Thread" started this morning
The thread was started at 9:33 a.m. today. (I think that's EST.) As of now (3:30 p.m. EST), the thread has 595 contributions. Or, perhaps I should say, 595 posts, because some of them could be considered contributions only in the broadest sense of the word.

As IWantAnyDem reported in #8, some of the Freepers are in denial, hoping that the list of grants of cert that's been released isn't complete, and that Donofrio's case may yet be included. Their hopes can survive until the list of denials is posted, which will probably be on Monday.

Other Freepers are pinning their hopes on one of the other pending lawsuits, such as Alan Keyes's. Still others allude to the possibility of future lawsuits. For example, there's a suggestion that military officers sworn to uphold the Constitution might bring a suit to establish whether they have to obey orders that come from Obama as Commander in Chief.

Update: While I was typing, they broke 600.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 04:24 PM
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30. Alan Keyes has a lawsuit too?
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 04:25 PM by DesertedRose
:rofl:

If they're not careful these folks may find themselves with "vexatious litigant" branded on their asses
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. Not to mention...
..."sore loser(man)." :evilgrin:

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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:49 PM
Response to Reply #30
49. Alan Keyes is still bitter about losing to Obama
WE stopped paying attention to him the day after he said he was running for Senator in Illinois
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:15 PM
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11. There will be more conspiracy theories, don't worry.
And this particular one isn't going away. It'll become ensconced in Freeper legend like those theories they had about the Clintons. ;-)

The ignorance will not disappear.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:21 PM
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12. Fear not, friends. If you think the issue is dead, you don't know the Freepers.
They'll be telling their great-grandchildren's great-grandchildren that Obama is not a citizen!!!
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No Passaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:23 PM
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14. LOL I hope so
My grandchildren will need a good laugh too
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 04:01 PM
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27. They'll be telling them he's not a human, for God's sake!!!
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:25 PM
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15. The birth certificate thing will be the "Vince Foster was murdered" thing for Obama

Or the "Clinton Death List"

or whatever.



It won't end... but nobody with a brain will care, and Obama will continue to have a 75% approval rating.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #15
24. Yeah
but last I checked, Jerry Falwell is still dead!

Who will make the Obama Chronicles?

Speaking of Jerry, I'd like to visit his grave to share a beer with him...post consumption, of course.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:30 PM
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16. Sorry, no Scalia orgy.
That must have a good anagram.

Haha-

Rosily coronary gas.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:57 PM
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25. HAHA!
:D




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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:59 PM
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26. Now maybe they'll SHUT THE HELL UP
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:18 PM
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37. It's good to have dreams.

:)

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 04:16 PM
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28. I don't get it. How does granting certiorari put an end to the cases??
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prostock69 Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 04:34 PM
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31. I believe what this means is:
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 04:37 PM by prostock69
the Supreme Court picked 2 cases, out of the many they had to choose from, to review and the case regarding Obama's birth certificate was rejected as a case they wanted to review because it wasn't one of the two that was issued a writ of certiorari. By doing this, they are saying that the lower court's opinion stands.

A writ of certiorari currently means an order by a higher court directing a lower court to send the record in a given case for review.

I hope this is correct. If not, please advise.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #31
35. No clue. According to SCOTUS blog, the two cases mentioned
in the OP seem to have nothing at all to do with Obama's birth certificate.

Todays Orders | 12.5.08
Friday, December 5th, 2008 1:23 pm | Ben Winograd | Print This Post
Email this Share on Facebook Share on LinkedIn Digg This!

Todays orders list is available here. The Court granted certiorari in two cases al-Marri v. Pucciarelli (08-368) and Gross v. FBL Financial Services, Inc. (08-441) filings for which are available after the jump.


Docket: 08-368
Title: al-Marri v. Pucciarelli
Issue: Whether Congress, in passing the Authorization for Use of Military Force after September 11, authorized the indefinite military detention of a legal immigrant seized on domestic soil whom the government alleged to have conspired with al Qaeda to carry out attacks against the United States.

Opinion below (4th Circuit)
Petition for certiorari
Brief in opposition
Petitioners reply
Brief amici curiae of William N. Eskridge, Jr., Daniel A. Farber, and Eric Lane (in support of petitioner)
Brief amici curiae of Professors of Constitutional Law and of the Federal Courts (in support of petitioner)
Brief amici curiae of Former Federal Judges, et al. (in support of petitioner)
Brief amici curiae of The Constitution Project, et al. (in support of petitioner)
Brief amici curiae of Retired Military Officers (in support of petitioner)
__________________

Docket: 08-441
Title: Gross v. FBL Financial Services, Inc.
Issue: Whether a plaintiff must present direct evidence of discrimination in order to obtain a mixed-motive instruction in a non-Title VII discrimination case.

Opinion below (8th Circuit)
Petition for certiorari
Brief in opposition
Petitioners reply
Brief amicus curiae of National Employment Lawyers Association (in support of petitioner)

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/todays-orders-12508/#more-...
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:23 PM
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36. which means they WON'T do the other application for writ (Obama BC)
will not be considered by the court
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:22 PM
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38. In a nutshell ...

Using an analogy, it's like this:

There's this fiction writing contest. There's a deadline for submissions. You submit a story before the deadline. On a set date after this deadline, all submissions are reviewed, and those deemed worthy of further consideration are passed on as finalists. The review board announces the finalists.

If your story was not on that list of finalists, it means your story won't win.



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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 04:55 PM
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34. they should take it to a higher court...
Dick Cheney

or maybe Pat Robertson
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:24 PM
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39. Up there in their outer
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 06:25 PM by zidzi
stratesphere.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:26 PM
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40. ROFLMAO
They are clutching their monkeys in freeperville this evening.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:19 PM
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44. I took a peek over there - this will not be dead to them until Monday
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No Passaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:26 PM
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45. Monday?
Try eight years. They'll never be satisfied
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #45
46. You're right - even if they each received a certified copy - they would
claim it was fake. It's going to be a long 8 years for them....ain't life grand!!
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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:35 PM
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48. Just perused freerepublic
Lot of nut jobs over there. They could all be in rubber rooms soon.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:32 PM
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52. It's not over....
We won't know for sure until Monday if Certiorari was denied in Donofrio's case. But even if it was denied, there's still at least two other cases on the SCOTUS docket.

Berg's lawsuit, which is the birth certificate and kenyan birth one. Souter's hearing that.

Wrotnowski's, which is a clone of Donofrio's (the "natural born" arguement) Denied by Ginsberg, reapplied to Scalia

There may be two more as well, but no info on that.

And at least 15 at the state levels....


It's SO not over.........*rolls eyes*
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:31 PM
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54. FreepTurdville is a sad place tonight.
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:39 PM
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55. As much as I hate good old Clarence Thomas he did the right thing
he essentially stopped the stupid thing from moving to justice to justice. Per Jeffrey Toobin on CNN, this is why Thomas did this. I can't believe he did something right but I still dislike him immensely. However, Scalia (get over it, about the 2000 election debacle) and Alito (holding grudges against Biden from the questions at his hearing) are worse.
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