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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:45 PM
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Face it. Obama is f*cked with the 2010 elections. He will need our back more than ever
It astounds me how people here and elsewhere are already trashing Obama with over 40 days before he even gets sworn in as President.

Lots of whining... lots of hand wringing... lots of wild-eyed projection and conjecture before he even walks into the Oval Office to sit down and click on his laptop.

I can't say that I'm surprised. In this ever-the-instantaneous World where people cry like babies when their net connection is flaky for 30 seconds, it was apparent to me that Obama's historic victory was going to be a three-day story and we would all be jonesing for some new story after a long 72-hour period of election victory.

There has to be something to bitch about... it's like staring at a puppy's eyes to see what infinite wisdom and direction it should bring us... the puppy's boundless energy and frenetic, untrained wildness is like our attention span. Run! Stop! Piss! Shit! Run! Bark!

Or maybe put the restless aimlessness under control...

Obama will face miles of destructive policy ruin from Bush when he walks into the Oval Office door. We know. It's the bloody Constitution on the floor bleeding from several wounds in one corner. The economy is strapped to a booby-trapped chair staring like a kidnapped prisoner after being beaten about the head from Reagan policies that were administered since that time. The two major wars are raging like a couple of rabid bloated dogs with fangs ready to eat each other and anything in their path. The American people, while hopeful, are wearing rags underneath their cheap overcoats. The rest of the World waits for a dozen miracles to come from us in the first week.

Meanwhile, the television infotainment Ken and Barbie dolls await their scripts from their corporate masters, who are petrified of change and know just what to do. The greasy wheels are ready to roll over anything in the corporate masters' way.

Additionally, the Republican Party looks at the piles of ruin and treachery of the Bush years left behind for Obama to now own as a chance to twist and turn it all against him and the Democrats. They know the television infotainment Ken and Barbie dolls will deliver the bad news like good little puppets and they know most of us have three nanoseconds for an attention span.

So what do we do as Democrats? Start the circular firing squad before we even had a chance to try to unravel the secrets of the labyrinth of disasters left behind from the Bush cabal? Should we give up the effort before we even start? Should we never give Obama a real chance to try to do the nearly impossible in a four year period, let alone a two year period?

Probably not. It seems that not many people will ever be happy with literally anything... ever.

It's like an impatient teacher finding out that Einstein flunked a math class in high school and sends him to a reform school to get a lobotomy...
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:47 PM
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1. I think 2010 will look more like 1934 than 1994.
The economy will have started to turn around by then. I refuse to believe that a $500 billion stimulus plan with have no effect.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 04:59 PM
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24. You're more optomisitic than me
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 05:00 PM by BreatheOnMe
I don't think the economy will turn around until Obama's second term, at the earliest. In my state of MI, it probably won't turn around until after Obama finishes his two terms
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 10:41 PM
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31. By 1934, there were clear signs of recovery from the Depression.
No one thought that was possible in 1932.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 09:39 AM
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34. Well, it's been almost 8 years of recession in my state
which is probably why I tend to be pessimistic about an economic recovery.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:47 PM
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2. I am thoroughly disappointed with President-elect Maddow. She sold us out.
I know that she hasn't taken office and will not do so for another 8 years. She probably won't even announce her candidacy for another 6 years. But can you believe the horrible lack of vision and bad judgment on her part.

I call it betrayal.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:57 PM
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3. It's not whining or hand wringing. It is an all-out frontal assault
that is designed to tear him down completely. I no longer view the perpetrators as good democrats.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:32 PM
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4. Who knew that all of our work and donations were for naught, that nothing would change?
:sarcasm:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:35 PM
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5. Amazing huh? Not even sworn in and trashed. I have his back..
I'm very happy to have President Obama on my team and I know he will do what's best to turn this fucked up situation around. He has my full support until and if something happens to destroy it.
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:11 PM
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14. Are you suggesting the topic of this thread is trashing Obama?
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:37 PM
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6. The trolls are just here because nobody goes to their sites any more.
They are jealous. It's really infantile.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:38 PM
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7. What you said.
The puling babies who are already "disappointed" or "let down" or have "lost faith" have been pissing me off.

Do they think they elected a miracle worker or Santa Claus? What kind of nave, infantile expectations do they have?

They act like they expect all their pet issues and most progressive ideals to be proclaimed and enacted before Obama even takes office, the democratic legislative process be damned -- as though we haven't had quite enough of governance by decree.

The very least we can do is support his efforts to improve the dire situation this country is in, as well as the incredible difficulties that lie ahead with regard to world affairs, and give him a chance to put some of his ideas into action.

It's the minimum we owe him, ourselves, and each other.

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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:49 PM
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8. The best defense against this is an engaged and aroused citizenry
--lobbying about the issues that they care most about. Most of these folks are to the left of Obama. Get used to it.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:08 PM
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9. If we Prosecute the prior administration, then the fact that it was THEM who fucked it up
will be front and center for the next 2 years.

It's *good politics* to publicly investigate & humiliate these bastards.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:37 PM
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10. It's *good politics* to publicly investigate & humiliate these bastards. ROGER THAT
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:50 PM
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11. How have you already reached the conclusion that he is "f*cked" with the 2010 elections?
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:52 PM
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12. This is just typical for Democrats. They always eat their own
Which is why Repukes usually come back
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:02 PM
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13. I think we should hold Obama to his promises
We can do that by holding his feet to the fire, or if you prefer to call it bitching and moaning then so be it.

Or we can bitch about the bitching and moaning.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:18 PM
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17. Can you at least let him get sworn in first?
Damn

This is why it's considering whining, bitching and moaning. I don't believe that many of these whiners are attempting to hold his feet to the fire. I refuse to believe that so many democrats are that stupid.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:36 PM
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28. I'll say it again. We should hold Obama to his promises.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:14 PM
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15. I think you may be right. If unemployment is still high and a recession is still ongoing
the party in power at the time, the dems, will take the lumps, even though it clearly has begun under Scrub. On the other hand, by 2012 the economy should be reveed up again which will give the advantage to Obama. It will be like 1982 and 1984--Republicans lost seats in '82 due to the recession, but by '84 the economy was moving ahead and Reagan won in a landslide.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:17 PM
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16. I think it's more like
lotsa trolls, zulchzulu. Reeks in here some days with all the odor of trolls.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:43 PM
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18. I find much more hand wringing and whining among the Obama Fan Club...
...than those with honest concerns.

EVIDENCE: This thread.








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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:51 PM
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20. Many aren't honest with their concerns
bullshit
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 04:34 PM
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21. "Many aren't honest with their concerns"
How many?
Who are you to judge?
Sounds like Fox News...."Some people say...."

Just more hand wringing:

Waa...Waa... Waaa....."Many" people aren't being honest on DU.... Waaa...Waaa. Waaa.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 02:51 PM
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36. Again...
bullshit.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:48 PM
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19. The old definition of a liberal: Someone who won't even take his own side in an
argument. When I hear people attack Obama before he has a chance to do anything, that is what it reminds me of.
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 04:37 PM
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22. Some of the attacks we see here are not that different from ..
.. what you hear from Rush Limbaugh. Especially
on the "Change" theme.

I'm pretty disgusted, honestly.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 04:43 PM
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23. Then he had better deliver on some things like ending the war
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:28 PM
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25. I agree with the poster that said 2010 will be like 1934.
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 05:30 PM by Odin2005
Hell, if the GOP starts being hyper-obstructionist they may piss off enough voters that we may have 66 Senators after the '10 and '12 elections and Obama will be re-elected in an LBJ-type super-landslide. Then the GLOVES COME OFF!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 09:09 AM
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32. We could get 60 senators in 2010
We may drop a few in the House, but we have enough of a cushion there now to absorb a loss of about 10 seats.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:31 PM
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26. But this post is surely a community builder.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 10:59 AM
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35. Oh, I Feel a Campfire Moment Coming On
You too?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 03:40 PM
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38. Indeed
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:36 PM
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27. Reagan had a bad midterm in 1982.
You all know how he did two years later.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:50 PM
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29. We have a great shot at picking up seats in the Senate that year.
Their 2004 victories were narrow & blue state heavy. They have too many seats to defend--they won't gain much. It's the 2012 election we need to worry about losing seats in.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:11 PM
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30. I don't think it's a done deal that the 2010 elections will go badly
'98 and '02 were two midterm elections in which the president's party gained ground, so the traditional idea that the president's party always loses ground in the midterm may not be as hard and fast of a rule as it was once thought to be. Also, even though the 2008 Congressional elections went quite well for the Democrats, it was not quite comparable to some of the insane "wave" elections from the past in which the newly elected president's party won a bunch of seats that otherwise would not have gone to a member of that party. '04 did not go well for us, so there aren't a lot of Democratic Senators up for election in '10 that are on shaky ground, and we don't have many Democratic representatives defending impossible-to-hold seats, either. We lost a handful who won in '06, but most survived their first race as an incumbent. Generally, if a rep can make it beyond that point, minus a giant opposition party wave or a scandal, they are able to hold on to their seat indefinitely.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 09:15 AM
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33. Don't despair. Just be thankful that the whinery on DU is not reflected in the real world
of mainstream American Democrats. If it was, we would have been sunk long before this.

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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 03:30 PM
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37. "It seems that not many people will ever be happy..."
Please consider that what you perceive as "whining" and "hand-wringing" are cries of pain. It's not just that our expectations are high--it's that our need is enormous. Considering the misery that so many of us are feeling, complaining about the complaints is rather silly.
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