Anybody donating to Hillary's debt?

[alwysdrunk]

I just got the email from Joe Biden just like most of you I suppose.

I'm thinking about it, I heard on the news that after she takes office at State she won't be able to ask for help on it anymore and it may end up being a problem for her.

On one hand I'm thinking her debt would be a lot less if she would have dropped out earlier with the same result. Then again, all that is over now and it's all bout team spirit. Saying "her" debt and "her" fault isn't positive. Also the vendors don't deserve to just get screwed.

Just wondering what other are planning to do on this.





alwysdrunk --

President-elect Obama and I have been assembling our team, and we plan to hit the ground running next month.

We want to be ready to go, and that's why I'm asking you to help us honor an outstanding commitment we made during the election.

Our campaign pledged to help Senator Hillary Clinton -- one of the vital members of our team and our future Secretary of State -- retire her campaign debt. That's the money her campaign owes to the vendors across the country that make our political process possible.

Barack and I had the deepest respect for Hillary as an opponent on the campaign trail. Her undeniable intellect, talent, and passion strengthened Barack as a candidate and tested our movement for change.

We welcome Hillary as a partner in our administration, and I hope you will show your support by helping Barack fulfill our campaign promise.

Will you make a contribution of $100 or more now to retire Hillary's campaign debt?

I saw your generosity and commitment to this team throughout the election, and I know we can do it.

In the general election, Hillary was one of our strongest advocates. She traveled the country and did more than 70 events, raising money and bringing new supporters into our campaign.

As Secretary of State, she will be indispensable in furthering Barack's agenda for change.

Let's welcome Hillary to the team and thank her for her efforts in support of our campaign by helping to retire her debt to the hard-working individuals and small businesses that were a part of the election:

https://donate.barackobama.com/hillary

Your support and generosity got us this far, and I know I can count on it now.

Thank you,

Joe

[wyldwolf]

1. monthly

[Alexander]

53. The Clintons thank you for enriching them at your own expense.

[wyldwolf]

54. and they thank you for being their spokesman.

[Alexander]

56. I wouldn't presume to speak for multi-millionaires.

Just like I wouldn't give them my money.

[wyldwolf]

57. but... you just did. You thanked me for them.

[Alexander]

59. Are you suggesting the Clintons would not thank you?

Seems like that would be rather ungrateful of them.

[wyldwolf]

61. No, and I'm also not suggesting they wouldn't hire a skilled spokesman like yourself

[dionysus]

60. talk about flushing money down the toilet...

[greguganus]

68. That monthly payment would do more for the ASPCA or UNICEF

But hey, it's your money. Cast your pearls wherever you want.

[dkf]

2. This should be interesting...

[YOY]

5. Very.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

3. Not a chance

I can barely pay my own rent as it is.

She and Bill have plenty of money; they should be able to take care of it themselves without taking handouts from the public.

[DoctorMyEyes]

11. That's how I feel

It's not that I can't pay the mortgage, but the few dollars I have to spare are going to family members who are a hell of a lot less flush than the Clintons. If big time donors feel like throwing some of their cash at another millionaire I guess that's their prerogative. I just don't think it's very tasteful, in this economy, to think that the people who scraped up donations in little $25 and $50 increment to help Obama get elected should be counted on to retire his former opponents debt.

Personally, I feel like my husband and I sacrificed what we could for the Obama campaign in an effort to "save the world". Which felt a lot more urgent than paying Hillary's caterers does now.

[AndrewP]

18. Nope.

I have large medical bills and my pets both have medical problems. Sorry Hill.

[GodlessBiker]

27. God's Love We Deliver or Hillary Clinton...God's Love We Deliver or Hillary Clinton...

Hold on...give me a few more minutes on this.

[YOY]

4. No.

n.t.

[Whisp]

6. she squandered her money irresponsibly.

no way I would donate to the likes of Penn and that ragged team she chose.
besides, she's rich.

[alwysdrunk]

20. This is a good point, I heard that during the campaign

Poor management, inefficient purchasing decisions, etc. I wonder why this was the case. Was is just bad executive management? Bad personnel decisions? Was it the "inevitability" factor?

Strangely, I've come to forgive Hillary for acting like she was inevitable. I mean by all conventional wisdom and conventional prediction method, she was. She didn't realize Obama would be the game changer he turned out to be back then, very few did.

[TwilightGardener]

7. Well, since her campaign mocked me as being an arugula-eating latte-drinking

Birkenstock-wearing moonbat who believed that Obama would make the "heavens open, celestial choirs will be singing"...the answer is no. I guess all of us supposedly affluent, well-educated Obama supporters from the primary are lookin' pretty good right now, though, huh? Not mock-worthy anymore by the Clinton camp.

[Arkansas Granny]

I just sent another donation. Regardless how you felt about her during

the primaries, she is on Obama's team now. Wouldn't it be better for her and, ultimately, for all of us if she had this behind her and could focus 100% on her new job?

[peace13]

15. Would that any of us could put our financial problems aside

and focus on A JOB!!

[DoctorMyEyes]

17. Amen!

I don't wish her any ill will - but her campaign debt isn't high up on my list of priorities.

[Sherman A1]

35. Precisely

and exactly my feelings.

[DoctorMyEyes]

16. When the Clintons have to tape plastic over their windows

to save on their heating bills like I have I'll spare a thought to their financial concerns.

[Erin Elizabeth]

50. Sure it would be better for HER. But I can think of a bazillion more

worthy causes to give what few extra dollars I have before Hillary's political debt. Including members of my own family. Beyond that, there's still hurricane relief we're working on here in Texas for the hurricane in September. There are still schools wiped out and people living tripled up in apartments and homeless from that (though you wouldn't know it to watch the news, it's disappeared out of the headlines a while back).

My local food bank is way down in donations, too.

I don't think the Clintons are near-starving.

[greguganus]

70. But she can afford to pay her own debts. ???? n/t

[azmouse]

8. No. I'd rather donate what little money I have to charities that really need it.

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[Waiting For Everyman]

10. That's a funny one!!!

It makes me wonder though, how much HRC has donated to food pantries lately?

[Beacool]

21. For the record, the Clintons donate 10% of their earnings.

Check what percentage did the top candidates of our party donated the last 5 years and then come back and laugh if you must.

[peace13]

12. I donated to her debt when she got off of the couch and made her formal concession speech.

I was proud of myself for doing that. I did not appreciate getting this email today. You have to wonder if they actually realize that there is a a huge financial problem with all of us out here. I think that politicians will have to get in line. This is not an anti Hill anti Obama post. This is an exasperated post.

[Diamonique]

41. Same here. I donated to her campaign twice then.

It's the holiday season now, and I have 7 grandchildren. Guess where my money is going.

[atimetocome]

13. I did a few days ago.

[DevonRex]

14. I did in mid November. I had made a promise and I fulfilled it. nt

[high density]

19. I got the email, and the answer is no thanks.

She's well-off and can satisfy the debts with her own money.

[Diamonique]

43. Actually the law doesn't allow her to satisfy the debts with her own money.

[Beacool]

22. Why start this thread?

You knew ahead of time the type of response that you would get around here.

The answer to your question is yes and I'll also be attending the event on the 15th in NYC. It's always great to see Bill and Hillary and I expect it to be a fun evening.

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[alwysdrunk]

28. I'm undecided. Curious to what other supporters are thinking.

The responses are mixed. And helpful. I'm leaning toward chucking in a few bucks. The one thing I haven't heard about is the legal reasons that they were talking about on MSNBC that I can't remember.

[ProSense]

29. You're not allowed to start threads with the word "Hillary" in them.

Didn't you know that?

[ronnykmarshall]

30. Well what would you do if there were no more Hillary threads?

Poor dear.

[ProSense]

33. Not get caught up responding to moronic comments?

Care to commment?

[Beacool]

36. Thanks for thinking about helping out.

I know that times are so tough for many people. I'm OK for now and can contribute, but I can perfectly understand that some can't even if they want to. I'm just sick of the usual reflexive venomous comments that pop up like clockwork from the usual suspects.

Obama and Hillary are on the same team now and his campaign is the one that sent that email. I received a different one from her camp.

[DevonRex]

73. I'm glad to have the chance to say I donated. Everybody knows

how much didn't like some of the campaign stuff. Won't go into detail for obvious reasons.

I figure if I can change my mind and donate, then maybe others can too but it won't help if I don't publicly state it.

*sigh* Took a pain pill a little while ago and I'm having a hard time gathering my thoughts. grr. Hope I made sense.

[Beacool]

78. You made perfect sense.

I hope that you feel better.

[Arkansas Granny]

34. And that's exactly why they start this kind of thread. There is another one

over in GD that's getting pretty much the same responses.

Have fun on the 15th. Wish I could be there.

[Beacool]

37. Thanks!!

America Ferrara is also going to be there. I expect it to be sold out, the event that she had at Baruch College in June was beyond capacity and they had to use a different auditorium to hold all the people.

[BluegrassDem]

23. Hillary owes Mark Penn $5 million....most of the debt

I love Barack and understand why he's appealing to us, but they're smoking crack if they believe Obama supporters will donate money to pay off Mark Penn. That greasy, fat bastard would never get a red cent from me. Hillary should've stopped her campaign back in April or May and and she wouldn't have had this debt. If anything, Mark Penn should pay Hillary for being such a horrible campaign manager.

[RethugAssKicker]

25. You gotta be kiddiing me ?

[SwampG8r]

26. i was going to send her money on wednesday

but then someone who loves her posted a shot at richardson calling him a homophobe so she can get the money from someone else

[Beacool]

38. Listen Gator,

As a fellow Gator (the university, not the swamps), who are you trying to fool? You don't like Hillary at all, I think that you would probably donate to a Republican's campaign before you would donate to Hillary.

[SwampG8r]

39. class of 96

i had amassed 2200 bucks i was going to send to her primary opponent
when she took SoS it was moot money
she could have had it but i think not

[Beacool]

40. Oh come on,

as a fellow Gator, you could be a good sport and send a few bucks. Think about it, then you could feel morally superior by having been generous to an "enemy". Besides, what primary opponent? If you mean her senate reelection, she wouldn't have had a Democratic opponent.

[JVS]

71. Hold onto that money. It may be good to donate to another cause at some time!

[Beacool]

79. Hey, this is between fellow Gators.

Shoooo, don't distract my customer. Go get your own donor.

[marimour]

31. didnt she already have extra money?

I cant remember the details but i thought last week that she said that she was still campaigning up until the convention so she cold convert that extra money she had to her senate campaign fund? If so cant she pay it from that? If not, no I wont. I don't feel the American people should be asked to pay for any millionaire politicians debts.

[Blu Dahlia]

55. And since she will not be running for Senate again, she needs

to use those 7 million in funds to pay her campaign debt. Makes sense to me!

[mkultra]

32. Im not paying for her Kamikazi run

She should have quite when it was mathematically impossible to win and she had no money. Instead, she kept the furnace stoked with IOUs. Do Not Want.

[whistler162]

42. I tried but they wouldn't

take my debt to add to Senator Clinton's debt!

[lame54]

44. I donated to the Obama campaign which help donate to Hillary's debt...

i already did my part

[JonLP24]

45. I don't have any extra money

If I did, I'd donate to Katrina Relief or something like that. Alot of those people are either homeless or living in dinky FEMA trailers.

[Blue_Tires]

46. nope....had my job eliminated and am in deep debt myself

and i get the feeling Hil isn't starving on the street...

[Fleshdancer]

47. I'm struggling with my own debts right now

I don't have the resources to help.

[Splinter Cell]

48. Not a chance.

Her ego ran up the dept. Her ego can pay for it.

[Erin Elizabeth]

49. Absolutely not.

I'll be helping my brother feed his kids this Christmas. Hillary's got fewer money problems than my own family does.

[Blu Dahlia]

51. I'm not a millionaire... so ... NO nt

[Alexander]

52. Give my money to millionaires? You're joking, right?

[ErinBerin84]

58. too poor at the moment.

And, while I'm sure she'll be fine as SOS, I doubt that I would give the money even if I had it.

[Cha]

62. Shit no. I don't like the way they piled up

the debt..they needed a better manager of their money and not spend so much thinking up the latest lie about Obama.

[ramapo]

63. I'm over my Hillary-Hate

I'm going to send $50. She made so angry. I couldn't stand the sight or especially the sound of her. But she was desperate and desperate candidates do desperate things.

To her credit, she went on to do the right thing and then some and she even brought Bill along.

She ran a crappy campaign and wasted a lot of money. The Clintons have a ton of money and will make even more. But for awhile I would've been just as happy with Hillary as our candidate as Barack and for that I should've donated back then.

I didn't but I will now.

[cherokeeprogressive]

64. Uh uh. Nope. Not a penny. Not a single red cent.

The Clintons have tens of millions of dollars. Let her pay off her own debt.

Congressional Bailout for the Clintons next?

[gingersnaps1]

65. Nope. Not planning on giviing a dime. I hav eto worry about a 1,001

things and giving money to retire Hillary's debt isn't one of them. I don't have any spare cash on hand and if I did I would donate to a more worthy cause.

[karynnj]

66. Nope - not even if Kerry sends an email, which I hope he doesn't

She has 6 million in a Senate account that was from the general election - if she gave that to the DNC I might consider it.

[CakeGrrl]

67. Nyet. She has way, WAY more $$$ than I and she has a nice shiny new job

She and Bill can dig deep and settle with those "hard-working individuals".

They should have put those people as a higher priority than Mark Penn.

Whatever happened to taking personal responsibility for one's debt? I'm gettin' tired of bailouts for the rich.

Would that I had $10+ million disposable income to spend on a campaign!

Paging Lynn Forrester De Rothschild...help a sister out STAT!

[JVS]

69. No

[AtomTan]

72. Yeah, I'll just dip into some of the millions I earned from my consulting services in Dubai.

Oh, wait.

[Hawkowl]

74. Clinton's'worth $$$100 MILLION

The Clinton's are worth well over $100 Million. Bill gets between $200 -$400K PER SPEAKING ENGAGEMENT.

Jeezus. If you want to help somebody try donating to your local food banks or the salvation army or my favorite, your local animal shelter.

Anyone who gives a multi millionaire money is what is wrong with this country.

[Phx_Dem]

75. I agree. The amount owed pales in comparison to

the Clinton's net work. Bill could pay off that debt and make the money back in no time through speaking fees or writing another book. He is still in huge demand and his popularity will only increase after Hillary is confirmed, as long as he minds his "manners," if you will.

[ZombieHorde]

76. I am silly, but not that silly.

I am guessing that many of the DUers who claim to have given her money after the primaries are joking.

[ddeclue]

77. Got too much of my own right now....

Hillary can figure it out for herself...she's a big girl..

[brooklynite]

80. Maxed out last year...

...and didn't get my photo then, either.

[political_Dem]

81. How much has Chelsea donated to pay off her mother's debts?

She does have a comfortable job that has to do with hedge funds, does she not? She has this job while a lot of other Americans are unemployed or living paycheck to paycheck.

[gal]

82. No I will not

[The Magistrate]

83. Locking

Flame-Bait, that has become a flame-war.