Anyone else think Hillary still has her eye on the presidency?

[begin_within]

Though she may not say anything about it until 2016...

[Tom Rinaldo]

1. Right now I honestly don't care either way....

The sun rises in the east and politicians have ambitions.

[LostinVA]

2. Of course she doesn't -- she's a team player

Obama is no Jimmy Carter and Hillary is no Ted Kennedy.

[Zombie2]

3. I bet she's thinking....

....why wait? :shrug:

[Metric System]

4. ENOUGH!!

[mtnsnake]

8. wahhhHHH

[mtnsnake]

5. Yes, let's change the subject

NOT

[onehandle]

6. 2016 is possible. If anyone is implying 2012, they need to up their dosage. nt

[BeyondGeography]

7. I think she has her eye on being a great SoS

Practical and ambitious person that she is.

[bridgit]

9. I don't think so...

[PeaceNikki]

10. ???

[NYC_SKP]

11. It doesn't matter. Susan Rice will be the utterly perfect candidate in 2016.

It's a new generation in America, many have said that Hillary was too much a creature of the 90's to be relevant in 2008.
To the extent that that is true, she'll not be more well suited to the role in 2016.

As to your question, does she have her eye on it?

In some way, she must always have that thought on her mind, 2016 or sooner.

[Hepburn]

12. No, not at all.

I think she gave it her best and she has accepted the loss.

JMHO

[blue_onyx]

24. I agree

She said a few months ago that it's unlikely she'll run again. I believe her. I takes a lot to run for president and to come that close and lose...it's hard to go back once you've accepted the loss.

[Hepburn]

28. Your read and my read on the issue are pretty much identical. n/t

[Maven]

13. NO JUST YOU

[vanderBeth]

14. She doesn't have a chance anymore.

[LostinVA]

15. Also, your ignorance of Civics is showing through -- just give it a REST

[Deja Q]

16. I'll let you know in 2016. Right now, let's think 2008 and 2009, and remain in reality.

I'm still laughing over all the paranoid, myopic nimrods who kept saying "They will cancel the elections in 200x, ooga booga dooma and glooma!", where x = 2, 4, 6, or 8.

And those who presumptively thought we would win in 2002 and 2004, with so much hubris putting up pics of champagne and other forms booze in their sig lines.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

17. Isn't SOS somewhere in the line of ascension to POTUS?

Not to say IN ANY WAY that I think that anything nefarious may be afoot nor can I emphasize enough how horrific it would be if we got to the point that we would have to replace Obama AND Biden but maybe, if SOS is somewhere in the line of ascension, that is one of the reasons that Obama wanted her as SOS? :shrug:

[MyNameGoesHere]

72. I don't know ask Al Haig. He didn't know either. n/t

[Lyric]

85. It's the Line of Succession, and yes.

Secretary of State is fourth in line. It goes like this:

Vice President
Speaker of the House
President pro tempore of the Senate
Sec. of State
Sec. of the Treasury
Sec. of Defense
Attorney General
Sec. of the Interior
Sec. of Agriculture
Sec. of Commerce
Sec. of Labor
Sec. of Health and Human Services
Sec. of Housing and Urban Development
Sec. of Transportation
Sec. of Energy
Sec. of Education
Sec. of Veteran's Affairs
Sec. of Homeland Security

And I disagree with you; Obama chose her because she's the best person for the job. Nothing else.

[SwampG8r]

88. 4th or 5th i think

behind VP and speaker of the house

[SeeHopeWin]

18. Please

Shut the fuck up

[ClarkUSA]

19. Bet on Hillary 2016. SoS is a huge resume filler and will erase memories of Snipergate.

Of course she does. To think otherwise is Hillaryous.

[Unsane]

20. Is the pope catholic?

[ecstatic]

21. If she does a great job as SOS, she should go for it

Time heals and changes people.

[Shiver]

22. She has said she doesn't think she's going to run again

From last month : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/second-white-house-run-un_n_134513.html



Not saying this particularly means anything, but she has said something on the subject.

[Alter Ego]

23. No, cause she'll be 70-something by 2016.

And that's too fucking old to be President.

[musicblind]

64. No, She'll be 67/68. Same age as Al Gore. They both could run in 2016.

There could also be newer up and coming candidates. But Hillary will not be too old to try again in 2016.

[SheilaT]

25. And like in the next eight years

not a single younger Democrat will show up who will be a good next president.

Let's see a show of hands: who here in 2004 thought Barack Obama, then an Illinois State Senator, would be our next President?

All anyone talked about on this forum for the next two and a half years, and for much of the next year after that, was the same old same old list: Al Gore, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Dennis Kucinich, and a few others. Now, with all due respect to those honorable men and woman, every single one of them was a look at the past.

Whoever the Democrat is who wins the nomination in 2016 will be, I can guarantee it, someone none of us is thinking of now.

[GoesTo11]

26. In 2016, it will be 24 years since she became first lady.

24 years ago, who was first lady? Hmm. That was 1984. It was Nancy Reagan. Well, that's unfair, since Hillary was reaffirmed as first lady in 1996, 20 years before 2016. Who became first lady 20 years ago? Let's see, 1988, that was Barbara Bush.

Seems like this was her perfect year. By 2016, the Clinton years will be ancient history.

[AJH032]

27. Hillary was younger though

than Bush or Reagan, when she became first lady.

[onehandle]

29. Except that a major portion of Obama's administration are from the Clinton years.

And Hillary will be in the news most every day for up to the next four years or so.

And Bill will still be out there.

[faithfulcitizen]

30. absolutely

and why not? I don't know if I'd vote for her in the primary, but I don't see why she shouldn't run...in 2016.

[Marrah_G]

31. Welcome to the land of ignore-

Pathetic really.

Now begone!

[mvd]

32. I don't think so - she'll be 8 years older

I supported her over Obama because I thought she had the experience needed to beat the Rove team - and that she's about the same on the political spectrum now as Obama, if not in the past. But I was proven wrong that someone like her is needed, and I think someone fresh will emerge in 2016.

[mtnsnake]

33. I agree that her presidential aspirations are over

Besides her age, there are too many other factors that will play into it between now and 2016. Other fresh faces are going to emerge and 2016 won't be another 2008. Hillary and Barack both knew that there would never be as good a chance to make history like there was in 2008, considering the odds that anyone emerging from the Democratic Primary as the winner was going to hand the Republicans a loss because of Bush's previous 8 dreadful years. That's why both of them were in the primary race to the bitter end. It was the opportunity of a lifetime and I think she realizes that. You're right, though, her age is the number one factor.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

34. Well duh.

[uppityperson]

35. No. eom

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[Metric System]

37. Still role-playing?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

38. He's got the role down pat.

Why so upset?

[Metric System]

42. Ugh, you again? I'm hardly surprised to see the two of you continuing to engage in divisive behavior

And, no, he does not "have the role down pat." I think most Hillary supporters here know that this is Obama's administration and she's working for him.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

44. You're the one who's all upset.

:shrug:

[mkultra]

46. We need to stand together against the Hillhate

Lock arms and we will red rover them into non existence.

[Metric System]

51. GIVE IT A REST

[mkultra]

55. I AGREE!!!!

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[mkultra]

66. just the bridge to tomorrow buddy.

[mkultra]

39. role D20 save vs slime

I rolled a 16. Is that enough?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

43. Head of State = POTUS.

You're thinking "Head of the State Department."

[LostinVA]

47. The poster knows that -- they have an agenda

[Starbucks Anarchist]

48. Ah.

Damn, I always miss these things. :rofl:

[LostinVA]

50. That's because you're off melon balling

The psoter has been a rabidly anti-Hillary Supporter poster since Day One (notice how I phrased that). They ahve attacked me for months and called me filthy names -- as well as many other people. Over the weekend, they changed their avatar and have started posting loony-tunes stuff acting like they are a PUMA.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

53. Melon balling killed my brain cells.

Though now that I think about it, I remember that poster being anti-Hillary, but I guess the avatar threw me off.

[LostinVA]

56. It also makes you go blind

Even my sweet Starbucks Anarchist only looks at the avatar!

:cry:

[LostinVA]

57. It also makes you go blind

Even my sweet Starbucks Anarchist only looks at the avatar!

:cry:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

58. I keep LensCrafters in bidness.

Word.

[LostinVA]

59. You are such a Pev

[mkultra]

54. No suprise, this is like the new freeperville when it comes to Hillary

They have to attack and attack . Where is this so called "UNITY"? huh?

Im with you!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

67. Clearly they've gotten over the primaries.

Perhaps you should too.

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[Forkboy]

60. The satire was funny for a bit. Time to let it go.

[mkultra]

61. critics!!!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

68. It's always the usual suspects.

Ignore their hatred.

[TwilightGardener]

40. Eh, don't care. Hopefully someone newish will appear on the scene by then, anyway.

[Forkboy]

41. I'll worry about it in 2014. Until then, give it up.

[azmouse]

45. Meh... who cares any more?

I just want her to do a good job as SoS and I think she will.

[DeepModem Mom]

52. Every politician with a pulse has an eye on the Presidency. It's the business of politics --

nothing wrong with it, IMO.

[Orsino]

62. Maybe.

I think she must know that she's taking a position that isn't going to win her the domestic glory she would need for a presidential run. SecState is not the post to build her "working Americans" base, as she could have in the Senate.

I believe that she has given up, realizing that her age will be seen as a problem in 2016, and that Obama is not likely to be a one-termer. Clinton is ambitious, but I think that her acceptance signals a willingness to sublimate her star power.

[polichick]

65. I would think so.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

69. Does the Pope wear Prada?

Obama will have to spend the next 4/8 years watching his back.

[Beacool]

70. I sure hope she does!!!!

Obviously not now, but in the future. I still want Hillary to be called "Madam President" some day and become our first female president.

:D

[mkultra]

75. that would be truly historic

We missed a chance at a historic election this time but we where so close.

18 Million baby!!!!!

[Beacool]

77. We missed it by a hair,

and I'm itching to see it fulfilled. Time will only tell.

;-)

[happychatter]

71. I dunno. What do YOU think about when you masturbate?

no, don't answer

I just don't care

[mkultra]

74. Hillary!

[happychatter]

76. mk u been steadily cracking me up for days

thank you

I have tears in my eyes

[Beacool]

78. TMI people, TMI!!!!!

Sick puppies........

:eyes:


:evilgrin:

[SoCalDem]

81. Duff? Swank? Sir Edmund?

:rofl:

[PresidentObama]

73. If she does, she has my support 100%

[DireStrike]

79. Oh without a doubt.

The SoS position gives her more to run on.

[SoCalDem]

80. I am hoping she's thinking about running for Governor of NY

Having been SoS , a presidential candidate, a senator, and First Lady gives her some credentials for Governor..

[Cleita]

82. I agree. If Joe Biden decides to run,

I think she will run against him and probably win the nomination this time.

[Alexander]

83. Biden won't run in 2016, he'll be 73 by then.

Even older than McCain.

[Chorophyll]

84. Why shouldn't she?

Especially in 2016? :shrug:

[harun]

86. Maybe because her top priority right now should be SoS.

[Chorophyll]

89. Fine. Of course, you might want to take that up with the OP.

I didn't start this thing.

[peace frog]

87. Sure, why shouldn't she run in 2016

but it's impossible to know what her chances might be. The US could be a very different place and she may not fit the profile of the leader that will be needed at that time.

[MoonRiver]

90. So what if she does?

IMO, if she does it will be a huge motivator to do a superb job as SoS, and be a loyal soldier for Obama. Win-win!

[Splinter Cell]

91. Is she breathing?

[RFKHumphreyObama]

92. I think she's undecided

I think she'll make up her mind closer to the date. That doesn't mean she won't be a team player