GOP is going to start a 50 State Strategy.

[madfloridian]

This is interesting, if not just funny. Several Republican bloggers have credited Dean's 50 State Strategy with the GOP losses. So now they are going to form their own.

Republicans to adopt a 50 state strategy

This is just too funny.

"As a national movement, a conservative movement, as a national Republican Party, it was certainly a mistake to focus on the presidency. It would be a mistake to focus on the elected officials in Washington," Norquist said. "So we rebuild, not just in Washington, but in all 50 states."

Oh, and moderates are to blame for Republicans losing the election. I guess they are because moderates voted for Democrats. Strangely, that's not what they meant. Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council told CNN that conservatives need to take back control of the GOP if the party is to return to its winning ways.

"Moderates never beat conservatives. We've seen that in past elections," he said.
Yup. They're living in their own little world.

Meanwhile back at the ranch it appears the Democrats are either done with or laying off and "evaluating" their 50 state staffers

Dean is stepping down and the staffers are being laid off.

Open Left obtained more of the email that was was sent to the field staffers for the program.

Follow-up on probable death of the strategy.

However, I also obtained part of the email that was sent to the 200 organizers who were fired. Here is the relevant graph:

"Because of your efforts and hard work, last night we made history on November 4. Barack Obama is the President Elect and the world, as we know it, is forever changed. This is a bitter-sweet moment because this great victory comes at the end of our SPP program, which was funded only through November 30. Therefore, this memo explains your final paycheck and the transition from the program."

In a follow-up email, I asked the source the following: Do you think "transition" means a new job, or is it corporate speak for "you're fired?"

The source replied "you're fired."

The GOP, forming their own 50 State Plan. They surely did see that it worked.

:)

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[madfloridian]

6. That is crossing the line of decency.

.

[firedupdem]

2. After looking at the people at that convention.......woo....

They are going to go to 50 states and look for toothless, old, white people.

[Why Syzygy]

12. Lynch mobs. That's what they'll end up recruiting.

They have NOTHING positive, no direction, completely RE-active, never pro-active. All you can build with that is a lyncher.

[GalleryGod]

26. How about Palin + Lou Dobbs in 2012 ??? They'd take Utah...but

Mississippi would be a toss-up along with Texas!:sarcasm:

[niceypoo]

3. republicans just dont get it

You have to have something to sell. Retards like Palin just wont do it.

[madfloridian]

5. A whole lot of Republicans love her...what was the figure 60 something % ?

It is unbelievable but they do.

[trueblue2007]

40. GOPS, got a 50 state strategy? well i'm telling you, YOU WON'T GET Oregon!!!

The Oregon Beavers hate your guts.

We got rid of Gorgon smith, we will never accept you!!

[harun]

42. They have learnt nothing

They are still looking for wedge issues instead of ways to manage the country in an effective way.

[WCGreen]

4. Obama gets to appoint the new chairperson....

I'm sure he will put someone in place that can effectively keep the party connected in all fifty states...

[madfloridian]

7. Of course, I am just pointing that we are losing good people

and data and knowledge.

I love Obama.

[PATRICK]

13. Dean accomplished his main goals

and especially in Obama who won and depends on a deep national 50 state strategy. Despite the apparent glut, the GOP still has an unjust hold over a large area and is rightly mocked in thinking they can offer real people anything on a broad basis. Their national plan is the MSM. The rest is jockeying for the next
corporate puppet godking position- and the money.

I expect/hope Obama to appoint a next step successor to Dean who will broaden and cement and mature the whole structure and not appoint a vengeful DLC shrinkage expert. We seem glutted and that is not a true picture. We actually have a long way to go as a party and it might even be helped by enabling decent democratic representation everywhere and decent alternative parties getting by roadblocks without becoming co-opted and repressed. In that the GOP has no honest role as a national party but still has strong local roots to stagger on void of a decent larger leadership or purpose.

Dean is truly a hero to our party. New days, new heroes. The more the merrier and no going back.

[MaineDem]

25. Actually, the DNC members have to vote on it.

But there will probably only be one candidate.

[The Traveler]

8. Laugh if you want

But Dr. Dean was quite right when he said it is a sign of respect to ask someone for their vote, even when you don't expect to get it. The forging of respect is the first step towards a dialog that can result in earning someone's vote. Apparently, the Rethuglicans have learned that lesson while our party leaders have decided to ignore it.

I don't want to Democratic Party to cede a single state to the vile ideology that modern conservatism has become. I certainly don't want it to abandon my own state, Georgia ...

So I am actually really kinda disturbed that this strategy cannot at the moment of its triump find financial support within the Democratic Party. What the hell? It worked, so we're dumping it? This is beyond stupid.

Trav

[madfloridian]

10. I really doubt it will be reinstated because of the DC opposition to it.

Not that it is that important, but it just kind of hurts.

Oh, and I am not laughing in a ha ha way, kind of a sad way.

[The Traveler]

16. I got that

But I actually think it is kind of important, really.

(Are you one of the stalwarts who has been affected by this? If so, you have my congratulations and gratitude. This has to be a raw deal for them.)

Want to achieve progress? Then you have to educate people and counter the right wing propaganda that has been shoved into their brains for years and years. Your best opportunity to do that is to run vigorous campaigns. My argument that it is not only good politics to do so, but in a real sense it is our duty to do so if the opportunity and means are available. Clearly, they are.

People deserve to hear the alternative (in this case Democratic) view. They deserve a reasonably good presentation of their options. If they choose the conservative path, well, that is their choice and they have a right to that. But if we do not strive to win them to our cause, we have no right to complain about their choices.

I think we probably are like minded on this topic ... but since I live in a red state (Georgia) that has been ill served by the conservative movement, I am perhaps a bit more acutely sensitive to the matter.

Trav

[MaineDem]

27. The state chairs will be all for it and they are one very powerful voting block

The Chairs and Vice Chairs make up a good portion of the DNC's membership. They carry a lot of weight. They were the ones who actually brought the 50-state strategy to all candidates for Chair in 2005. I think they'll make a strong argument to continue the program with the new Chair and President.

[madfloridian]

31. I agree, but how many choices will they get to vote on anyway.

That's what I wonder about.

[political_Dem]

9. Can the Republicans ever think or develop something on their own?

They are always stealing other people's ideas. Then, these blowhards brag that they created something new.

They're like the cheaters who steal the A student's answers during test time.

[The Wielding Truth]

11. Can we kick them out of our states? They are crooks and liars.

The best thing to do is require the restoration of the Fairness Doctrine.

The Republicons really tried to steal this election but we had enough voters and workers to save it.

[givemebackmycountry]

14. NO. They are not.

You forgot to leave out all those states that are not part of "Real America" remember?

50 state strategy?
I don't think so.
18 state strategery?
Maybe.

And those numbers are rapidly dropping.

[Raine]

15. Too late

most of those 50 states belong to us now. :evilgrin:

[regnaD kciN]

17. Blah, blah, blah...

We get it, madfloridian. You are convinced that the Democrats will abandon the fifty-state strategy. You are convinced that, despite a victory by the agents of change in the Democratic party, those very agents are going to cede control to the old-liners who opposed them. You are convinced that the Obama campaign will follow the lead of those they defeated in the primaries, and adopt the same strategy that those opponents used to take an "inevitable" nominee to runner-up status, instead of the one they themselves rode to victory.

You are convinced of it no matter how flimsy your reasoning, how threadbare your "facts," or how clear-cut the arguments others advance to counter your claims.

And you are going to post about it over and over and over and over again, starting new thread after new thread after new thread on the same subject, until (you think) you'll convince us likewise.

In other words, you are going to live out the satirical maxim from philosophy seminars at my college: "If you can't be right, be wrong at great length and as loudly as possible."

Well, it hasn't worked so far, it isn't working now, and it isn't going to work in the future. And I (and I'm sure I'm not alone in this) have had enough.

Buh-bye! :hi:

[kid a]

20. you are not alone.

[SoCalDem]

18. Come on along, come on along...join up.. all 64% of the 24% who still admit to being repulsivcans

I have this sneaking suspicion, that a LOT of people who used to call themselves republicans, have now seen the light..

They actually thought that if they "donated" to their 401-ks and tithed to their mega-churches, and marched with fetus-worshipers, that they too would someday be rich.. They bought into the "investor class"/ homeowners society", and now they are seeing it all slip-sliding away..right into the pockets of their republican overlords..

Many of them may not be ready to call themselves democrats, but I'm pretty sure a lot of them have taken a breather from politics.

Some of them rail against "socialistic" policies, but I'm betting they will be elbowing their way to the front of the line to re-negotiate their mortgages..

[underpants]

19. Everything is a copycat business

Movies
Football
you name it

As was said to me by a volunteer "You know that THEY will be copying Obama's organization and his fund raising operations by this weekend don't you?"

They will cheat their asses off too exploiting Obama's fundraising structure.

[LiberalFighter]

21. Each state needs to take responsibility to implement their part of the plan.

The DNC has provided the tools to each state. So keep using them.

The States each need to expand it down to every county so the same resources are available.

[madfloridian]

33. The funding is apparently ending from the DNC

the funding for the staffers. Depends on who is picked by Obama as next chair.

[Alter Ego]

22. If they think getting MORE wingnutty in all 50 states will win them the election

they are sadly mistaken. That shit doesn't fly outside of the South and other crazy states in the West.

And Dean's departure by NO means indicates the death of our 50-state strategy. Obama won with it--and he's a believer. It's his DNC and the new chairman will employ the 50-state strategy just as well.

[GalleryGod]

24. Yippeeee! Waste $$$ on Jersey, PA. and NY!

Please let Sister Sarah take over the GOP!

[GalleryGod]

23. Well #44 and Team are going to Youtube Technology (just like the website)

Starting with the nearly 4 million email addresses on the donor list
Obama will broadcast "fireside chats" "insider stuff" DIRECTLY out to (I hate to say this) HIS BASE.

[LynneSin]

28. Well good luck with Delaware. With dingbats like Christine O'Donnell running for senate

we'll stay blue for a long long time

[treestar]

29. I thought it was the one-state strategy

McDope putting all his strength in PA.

Nah, the 50 state voter suppression strategy is the only way the repukes can win.

[FloridaGrl]

30. 50 state strategy will not work

if you call part of the state real America which suggest the others are fake. The republicans are too divisive to succeed in a 50 states strategy. Obama never turned on his opposers and suggest they are un-American and this is what won over many independents and republicans alike to Obama's message. I would never support a group that made less of a human because I did not fully support their cause.

[yellowcanine]

32. Someone should ask Grover how big a bathtub it would take to drown the bloated government that Bush

constructed over 8 years.

[Occam Bandage]

34. MF, why do you interpret the standard end-of-cycle reset as "ending the 50-state plan?"

The DNC is shutting down almost all operations, since that's what it does as it transitions from one chair to another, and from one campaign to another. What, exactly, makes you think that this time it means that they're probably going to abandon the first successful strategy they've had in over a decade?

Most Obama campaign staffers were laid off. That does not mean that the DNC is abandoning the entire concept of Obama, of Presidents, and of campaigns. Most Congressional campaign staffers were laid off. That does not mean that the DNC is abandoning the concept of Congressional campaigns. Most 50-state staffers were laid off. OMG I BET THE DNC IS GIVING UP ON 50 STATES.

[madfloridian]

36. Well, do a blog search on the subject, esp. blogs by state people.

and you will see that many if not most feel like I do.

It's very easy to remedy. Dean in a Guardan article says Obama promised they would continue the program, and I hear he also promised the state leaders the same thing.

Now they are very confused and wondering what lies ahead as their locally hired folks are laid off.

It would be simple to explain and respond to it.

[Occam Bandage]

38. I'm not asking if there other people who share your rage.

The blogs are full of people who are upset about everything from Obama's impending Marxist dictatorship to Obama's involvement covering up Bush's role in planning the 9/11 attacks, so "there are many who feel as I do on the blogs" is not exactly a very good argument.

I'm asking why you believe that the end-of-cycle reset, which has coincided with the end of every past chairmanship/election, this time means that the DNC is going to without cause, provocation, or warning drastically change course despite the stated desires of everyone involved with the DNC leadership.

Many people have lost their jobs, yes. DNC operations were only charted out through 2008, and the 2008 campaign is now over. I see absolutely no reason to believe that the next DNC head will not plan and fund another 50-state strategy throughout his term.

[madfloridian]

39. Why do I believe that?

I will be frank. I think that most of the people involved in the decision making now are very much more for the way things used to be....with a few people making decisions and not so much input from the states.

Do I think Obama himself is for stopping it? I don't know.

I think the insiders in DC took their party back to how they want to do it.

You asked what I thought. I don't want to mention names I think might be involved. I do know that many powerful donors would not contribute in any way as long as Dean was head and the strategy was being used. To be honest, it is easier for them to get things done in the smoke-filled rooms. Not so many involved.

:shrug:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

35. They already have a 50 state strategy: It's called churches. nt

[Aloha Spirit]

37. This reminds me of the lone crazy O'Reilly sign waver on Nov 4th (Sen. Kerry's (R) challenger)

[madfloridian]

43. But you still remember him.

Speaking out doesn't make one popular, but sometimes it means making a little difference. :shrug:

[Aloha Spirit]

44. Haha very true. I just don't see a lot of growth opportunity for the GOP in my neighborhood of Mass.

I meant to say Beatty sign waver in the previous post... oops
If the GOP does want to do grassroots growth here, they will need to appeal to the failures of the (D)'s. Problem is, there is already enough inner-party tension that the Republican opposition kinda seems redundant!

The only people that can give the GOP a foothold in some new states is the Democratic leadership in those states by not achieving competency or by not respecting their own party platform (like Kerry).

Also the current Republican celebrities, the public faces of the GOP, have zero appeal in a lot of blue states. Romney ... yikes.

I do think that in the next election, there could be a National Popular Vote Compact in place for the next presidential election, and that campaigns will be courting voters differently. I predict the GOP will have to move to the center if they want to be competitive in 2012.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

[SuperTrouper]

41. LOL!! Good luck with NY, MA, CA, NJ, RI, CT

:rofl:

[madfloridian]

45. Didn't we pretty much clear them out of the NE?

:hi:

[Skidmore]

46. OK, people. We won. They lost. This time.

Do not get complacant and do not get bogged down in group think. This is the time to govern smart. Obama and Dean ran a smart campaign. We need to help them and the Congress to govern smart. Right now that means arriving at a concensus of what will benefit the nation as a whole. The moderates of the opposition are in the mood to get something done and if we need to get something done. There is nothing that will not hold a majority for us or get Obama re-elected more than producing results that benefit the majority of Americans.

Do not get complacant, and do not let our legislators drift down that path that the Rs did in terms of corruption. We need to clean house and rid ourselves of anyone like this. No excuses.

Let's get busy.

[DogPoundPup]

47. Anti-Obama'firestorm of facts'?Family Research Council has declared war on Obama Admin. ALREADY

Tony Perkins, the group's president, has this letter up on FRC's website: ..........

see letter via
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/antiobama_firestorm_of_facts.html