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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:07 PM
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Westboro Baptist Church will be picketing the funeral of Obama's grandmother
Not posting the link even if someone requests it, but this is from their press release:

WBC to picket the funeral of Madelyn
Payne Dunham, - pursuant to the
picketing laws of Hawaii or Kansas or,
etc., wherever burial occurs, - in
religious protest and warning to the
living; to wit: "Prepare to meet thy God."
Amos 4:11.
Yes. Dying time is truth time, and reflection time,
and time for meditating on the weighty issues of
life: getting right with God, life, death, Heaven, Hell,
sin, righteousness, judgment to come, etc. Obama
says his grandmother Dunham raised him, and,
her "influence on his manner and the way he
viewed the world was substantial." If so, then she
has much to answer for as she stands before the
Lord. Obama says he will use the White House as
a Bully Pulpit to advance the cause of murdering
more babies and same-sex marriage. "God hath
appointed a day, in the which He will judge the
world in righteousness by Christ." Acts 17:31.
"And shall not God avenge his own
elect, which cry to him day and night?"
Luke 18 :7.
"For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will
recompence, saith the Lord. It is afearful thing to fall into the hands of
the living God.." Reb. 10:30,31.


I hope one of the first things President Obama is able to deal with is these people. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:09 PM
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1. 'able to deal with?'
As in HOW?
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:11 PM
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3. That's the thing though
.........I don't actually know.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:19 PM
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12. You let them protest, that's how. But counter protesters could always come.
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 09:21 PM by beachmom
I mean, has no one heard of the First Amendment?

As long as they are a considerable distance away for security reasons, that is as far as it goes. It's sick, of course, but protected speech.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:05 AM
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89. First amendment doesn't cover this.
These people are in violation of the law.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:22 AM
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94. What law!?
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:16 AM
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106. How ? they clearly have a permit.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:58 PM
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121. Sorry, but it does.
I HATE that it does, but it does.

But counterdemonstators can carry signs with "John 3:16"
and "Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." Matthew 7:1-2

Always best to counter these pricks with their own language.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:18 PM
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53. They should be allowed to protest.
Perhaps they can be accomodated by giving them a fenced off "free-speech zone" located at a suitable distance (for their "safety", of course) - say several miles.

Note: Do I even need a sarcasm smilie?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:26 AM
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69. I hear Pitcarn Island is nice this time of year...
rocks and seagulls mostly...

that would be a good "first ammendment zone"...
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:22 PM
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56. I have found that you "take" whatever "power" they have from
them, simply by laughing in their faces.

Too much is made of WBC, they are a very sick group of people who have no concept of anything Christian, and act more like the KGB, than a religious organization.

Laugh at them, your take away what they want, confrontation. You never give your enemy what they want, you destroy theri credibility, (as if WBC has any credibility).

try it, laugh when you see WBC or Phelps and his minions anywhere, they live by hate and feed off of the indignation of others. Don't feed the monster, it dies.

:D

Really, try it, laugh at them, it will do a world of good!
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:37 PM
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28. Waco Style!
:nuke: :nuke:






























(OK - maybe not, but honestly, would anybody give a shit? )
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:03 AM
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74. That's the only way anyone would start to give a shit
If it, like Waco, became a rallying point for the loony right.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:02 AM
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73. Popular musicians could band together and shut them down.
Just have a major recording artist show up at every one of their protests and put on a free show. They would disappear in the crowds that would form.
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walkzt Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:11 AM
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92. ...
as in abolishing all religion.....duh
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:19 PM
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141. Who said anything about abolishing religion?
And what do yo think sickos like Phelps and his gang of shitheads have to do with religion? And welcome to DU, by the way.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:20 AM
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93. First thing is kick 'em out of the party
They are a blight on all Democrats.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:16 AM
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107. Unfortunately, they're not in violation of any law, and the First Amendment
gives them the right to be as stupid and horrible and ignorant as they please.

But no one likes them anyway, and they do this plainly for attention--and these fucktards picketing Obama's grandmother's funeral will generate a strong sympathy factor for Obama.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:11 PM
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2. Secret service is going to love these guys.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:23 PM
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21. And vice versa
This is probably going to end more on the "hilarious" side of things than the "infuriating" side.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:11 PM
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45. Im not sure they will be allowed to get away with this one, not with
her grandson being president, I hope for once they get the book thrown at them, the very same one they claim to stand by.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:13 PM
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4. These people are really sick in the fucking head. n/t
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:29 PM
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24. We All Know The "Fucking Head" Doesn't Think
:evilgrin:

Seriously though these bastards are fuckwittage.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:09 PM
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42. Really! Here's their website:
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:57 AM
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100. It's worse than that
The way that they have raised their kids to perpetuate the hate is abusive. I remember watching a BBC documentary about them called America's Most Hated Family and the kids were repeating things that they obviously did not understand. There were some who seemed a bit conflicted, though they tried to act like they were not. The adults in that "family" made me ill and I cannot believe that Child Protective Services has not done anything about what, to me, is obviously child abuse in that "family". They are a bunch of really hateful and twisted people.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:13 PM
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5. It will be interesting to see how the Secret Service handles them n/t
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:13 PM
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6. These people are sick. Sick. Sick. nt
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:14 PM
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7. god's sick army
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Liberalboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:15 PM
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8. They tried to picket a funeral in Canada...
A) They were denied entry because of threat to create hate speech
B) They snuck in anyway and the RCMP (Canadian FBI) told them that they would not be able to protect them from harm
C) They quickly went back over the border with no disruptions.

These people are hateful assholes, I wish Fred Phelps nothing but pain and agony
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:20 PM
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16. Is this the same group that protests military funerals?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:21 PM
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17. Yep (nt)
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Liberalboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:55 PM
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35. Yes....sigh
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:16 PM
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9. I'm quite sure the Secret Service will point out the error of their ways to these nutjobs if they
actually attempted to do this -- which I don't believe for a moment.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:23 PM
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20. Oh you can believe it. The family is a bunch of lawyers
with a notorious history of lawsuits .. which is why they've racked up their wealth.

But it would be fun to see them go up against Agent Mike and his colleagues for once.

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:18 PM
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10. Ever heard of the First Amendment? We defend it not when it is easy
but when it is most difficult. Obama is now the President-Elect. Protests come with the territory. This is a clearly tasteless protest but apart from security restraints, they are allowed to do this under the Constitution.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:20 PM
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15. Threats to the security of the president-elect have no first amendment freedoms
Sorry, they're nutburgers. The Secret Service won't let these nutburgers anywhere near the Obamas.

Not. Going. To. Happen.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:23 PM
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22. Did anyone say "near the Obamas"? People protested Bush all the time,
but they were like miles away from him.

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:39 PM
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29. You don't know what the Westboro nuburgers do, do you?
Being miles away from the event gives them no attention, and above all else they are attention whores.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:04 AM
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82. And as long as they get media coverage and attention, they will continue to do
what they do.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:13 PM
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47. Hate speech isn't protected
That's what Westboro promotes.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:19 PM
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11. The Secret Service Will SWOOP DOWN ON THEIR ASSES
and cart them off to an undisclosed lcoation for the duration of the PRIVATE event.

They won't get within ten miles of the funeral.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:19 PM
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13. Lock and load!
Let's send the Westboro heretical cultists to their eternal reward!

Whenever I hear of the Westboro church, I long for Stalin.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:31 AM
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144. Understood. They bring out my Inner Commissar, too.
To the Lubyanka!
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:31 AM
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145. Understood. They bring out my Inner Commissar, too.
Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 02:32 AM by onager
To the Lubyanka!

Sorry for double post. Weird, not sure how that happened...
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WindRiverMan Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:19 PM
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I think a whole lot of men in dark suits with machine guns and sniper rifles
will see this a little different than the quaint Baptist Church. It is now a matter of protection of the President-Elect. They will not be allowed within 1000 yards. Membership has its privileges.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:22 PM
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18. No kidding
there's no way the Secret Service will allow this anywhere close.

If I believed in god, I would love to the see the look on their ugly faces when they are cast into hell.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:01 PM
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110. I'm going with the Mike Malloy "soccer ball" theory on that one.
As in "God's going to pinch their heads off and throw them into Hell so the demons can play soccer with them" :evilgrin:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:19 PM
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14. With Obama winning, haven't they figured out that perhaps
it's God who hates them and not everyone else?

And why don't they hate this nasty God of theirs for allowing all of the things they can't stand?

LOL

These people are too much. The worst of humanity for sure.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:22 PM
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19. I think this group will be lucky if the Secret Service saves their sorry
asses from the surrounding crowd!
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:24 PM
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23. The location of the funeral will probably be moved, and they
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 09:25 PM by Beregond2
will find themselves picketing nothing at all.
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Bubbha Jo Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:30 PM
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25. Good... the whole world will see this stupid group.
They are the best free advertisement there is here about the dangers of fundamentalism to one's mental health.
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:32 PM
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26. WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF!!!!!
These fuckers need to be taken DOWN!

Secret Service, CIA, FBI, I don't care. Just someone fucking keep these motherfuckers away from the funeral. Barack needs to say goodbye to one of the rocks in his life and he doesn't need to take this shit-- he'll be taking all kinds of shit once he actually becomes President. We need to have his back on this.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:35 PM
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27. Gee, I sure hope nothing bad happens to them.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:10 PM
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43. Gee, me neither. That'd be perfectly awful.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:13 PM
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48. Yes. It would be absolutely terrible if someone shotgunned the bunch of them.
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 10:14 PM by cliffordu
Really.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:29 AM
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70. Or beat them to a bloody pulp...
I wonder how they'd like the view falling over the Pali?

that's the cliff that Kamehameha pushed all the opposition fighter over when he unified the Islands for the first time to become the first King of Hawai'i...
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:46 AM
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72. Somehow the irony in that justice seems....perfectly logical.....
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EastTennesseeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:41 PM
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30. ........................
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lenegal Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:44 PM
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31. They are pathetic
How many funerals do these idiots picket. It seems it is all these asshat wingnuts do.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:44 PM
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32. Stay classy Westboro!
I'm seldom surprised at what low lifes these folks are but this breaks the meter. What a ghoulish display of barbarism! These are in no way Christians. Nobody but the Devil spends their days trying to squeeze more souls into Hell.

This is the element among us that is always seeking the dark ages and they are more dangerous than many are willing to even begin to accept. We can only hope that in the light of day they will be seen for what they are and will fade far into the background so that we can move forward and start to spread beyond this one world and never again risk the destruction of all that we have become and can be at the whim of a recessive psychology or a single event.
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Epiales Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:47 PM
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33. Is this funeral going to be in Hawaii?
Have they seen local boys?

This would absolutely be the end of the entire Westboro infection.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:30 AM
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95. Isn't that the truth.
I hope they have it in Hawaii just so the natives can get a chance at them.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:56 PM
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136. How do they hvae the money to fly to Hawaii?
Maybe the cost will break 'em.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:51 PM
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34. These guys are just about the worst humanity has to offer.
Bleah.
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:59 PM
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36. Are... You... Fucking... Kidding Me?
Can this not be stopped? Can we do something to counter this? What can be done?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:59 PM
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37. they're going to pay for round-trip airfare to hawaii for their group?
just to wind up getting their asses kicked by some angry hawaiians(the BIG ones- with samoan ancestry)...?

:shrug:
i don't see it happening.
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:00 PM
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38. Just how DO they fund all their travel?
.
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:06 PM
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40. Oh, you got nuts all over this country that will fund anything hate filled.....
that fulfills their desire to do harm to anyone that doesn't think the way they do. money is generally never a problem for lunatics like them.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:08 PM
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41. They've won lawsuits and got attorney's fees
They also run a law office as well as the church.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:12 PM
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62. what if someone who lives in a tent on the public beach kicks their ass...?
what would they sue for?
:shrug:
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 05:46 AM
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79. Are they tax exempt?
Doubt it
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:08 AM
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90. They don't accept donations. It's apparently on Fred's family members involved. n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:14 PM
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49. Virtually all of the adult Phelps are lawyers and they sue if someone sneezes in their airspace.
they make a living off of inane lawsuits.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 05:47 AM
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80. Why did they go to law school?
Bob Jones doesn't have a law school
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:33 AM
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96. Yeah. Actually they do. nt
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:12 PM
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139. and if that person lives in a tent on the beach- what would they sue them for?
the tent? :shrug:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:14 PM
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63. don't they generally pile in a couple vans and/or a mobile home?
i suppose they could go to triple-a and request a trip-tic... :shrug:
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:17 AM
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76. Palin funds them personally, I'm sure
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:03 AM
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102. The "Family" Leaders
are also attorneys. They also get money from the "members" who work and contribute to the "church".
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:15 PM
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50. That was my first thought
Go all the way to Hawaii to protest a funeral. Seriously, don't these people have jobs?
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:05 PM
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111. They were going to Australia for Heath Ledger's funeral
I think they got kicked out of the country though. Now that's a lot of money to waste on hate.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:30 PM
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122. Australia has VERY STRICT rules on this sort of thing, if they even got a Visa, they would have been
arrested when they even opened their mouths at any funeral... However, I don't think they actually made the trip.
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:03 PM
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39. Anybody know if these crazy nuts have a tax exempt status?...
If they do, I hope they will be engulfed and swallowed up by the change that is fixing to come our way. No more tax exempt for lunatics spreading and spewing hate. No. more. ever.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:12 PM
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46. Don't they have a giant civil judgement against them right now?
Didn't a Marine's family win a big case against them a few months ago?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:16 PM
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52. Yes, it's still going through appeals
But there's a lien on the church and law office. The judgment currently sit at $5 million for the Snyder family.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:07 PM
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113. That's how they took down the Aryan Nations assholes in Idaho
Of course they weren't lawyers, just a bunch of idiot skinheads. The Phelps KKKlan probably won't be as easy to take out.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:11 PM
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44. NOW can we grind them all to paste? Please?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:15 PM
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51. Now that Obama is safely elected, he needs to have his "Muslin" mullah issue a fatwa against Phelps
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Zombie2 Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:18 PM
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54. First Amendment's cool and all...
But these people need a good beat down. :evilgrin:
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:20 PM
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55. People like this make me hate to call myself Christian.
For non-believers not all Christians are like this.
the ones that are I personally run from.

I believe they will burn in hell extra hotter, for discouraging people from the real message of God
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:25 PM
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57. You shouldn't feel that way, they are not Christians, they are
the anti-christians. Their views are 180 from what anything Jesus spoke of.

I posted above on the best way to deal with them...laugh in their faces whenever the opportunity arises. It takes from them any "power" they think they have. They survive by hate, don't feed it, fight it. Seriously, the best way to fight these fools is to not thake them seriously...just laugh at them...it works wonders... :D
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susanwy Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:41 PM
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58. Calling the Angel Action in Hawaii and Kansas


Here is what was done in Laramie when the hate monger came to our town. It was great, they encircled those bastards so no one could see them. It was beautiful and the Angel Action was born.

http://www.readromaine.com/laramie/angel.htm
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:12 AM
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109. I was present at one these whackjobs protest too
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 11:13 AM by rvablue
and the angels were there as well

It was the most beautiful presentation of humanity I have ever seen in my entire life and an image that will never leave me.

Those hatemongers brandishing their horrible, nasty, hateful signs and this peaceful, silent army of angels holding up their wings and blocking them out.

You've seen it yourself in it's first incarnation....I saw it later in CA....and hopefully if these bigoted hateful people show up at Toot's funeral, the whole world will see it on TV.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:05 PM
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112. That is AWESOME
I love it!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:15 PM
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116. That's beautiful and brilliant! I have not heard of this before, thank you! nt
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:08 PM
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119. I hope that's what happens...
Just surround them!
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:53 PM
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59. I don't know what to say beyound WTF.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:55 PM
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60. "I AM THE JUDGE", said God, "NOT YOU."
You'd think these supposedly "religious" idiots would know that rather important bit.

Morans.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:56 PM
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61. The Westboro Baptist Church and God have no relationship with each other.
God rejects hypocrites like WBC
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:15 PM
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64. I don't think this is smart..
of the WBC freaks. Obviously they're not smart anyway.. but Obama just got elected by a huge margin.. and has millions of rabid supporters.

Quite frankly, the right has some fringe freaks. So does the left. These guys are idiots if they show up to this and think that a few people aren't going to try to "defend" Obama's name or whatever.

And where do these people get their money??? It's not exactly cheap to pick up a few tickets to Hawaii 3 days out, is it?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:27 PM
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65. It's one dysfunctional family, doing this solely for the attention. Ignore them.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:03 AM
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66. I wouldn't weep if the S.S. beats them up... they are amongst the few who deserve it. n/t
n/t
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:08 AM
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67. You know....
When Fred Phelps dies, they're going to have to install a dancefloor over his grave.

And a urinal.
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:12 AM
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68. Oh no they won't. Two words. "Secret Service."
:mad:
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:38 AM
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71. I Live In El Dorado Ks.....
All I Gotta Say.....

Bring It On Freddy Boy....Dare Ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:06 AM
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75. The Evangelical crazies have almost given me a disdain for church and religion.
What kind of a God would drive these types of people. It is a deep and troublesome question. They disgust me, in a very personal way.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:47 AM
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77. as usual, Fred Phelps, will be too big of a chickenshit to go himself
and will send his daughter and a bunch of her kids to hold their vile signs
Fred hasn't been seen in public in years
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 05:43 AM
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78. Where do they get the money for plane tickets?
How can they afford their travel expenses?
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stick Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 07:50 AM
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81. Go the chaser
dont know if many of you will know the chaser boys, they have a great comedy show in Australia, but check out this clip of them winding up WBC

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=i7iXbWsO4ik
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:52 AM
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99. Lol! That's funny.
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 09:53 AM by votesomemore
Sic the women on the reporter... lol!
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:51 PM
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120. Love Chaser
Their "Modern Christianity" is a staple for our Wednesday Night Prayer Meetin' shows on The H.O.R.N.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:06 AM
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83. I think they will be picketing from VERY far away
The Secret Service aren't going to tolerate their crap.
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debrazee Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:10 AM
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84. The way to deal with these EVANGELICAL WING NUTS
The way to deal with these EVANGELICAL WING NUTS

is to hit them where it hurts - in the $ pocket

They claim to be a Religious Organisation - they clearly are NOT - they are a Race Hate Organisation

Contest their "Church" or "Religion" based tax exemption status - once it is denied they have funding problems. QED

Their Race Hate activities are crimes - Lock them up with no chance of Bail - anyone trying to help them should also be arrested and charged with conspiracy to promote race hatred. (Or whatever that charge would translate into)

Where I am in Europe conspiracy to commit a criminal act has higher penalties than many lesser criminal acts themselves, sometimes as high as life imprisonment.

Most of the activities of these Zealots, Evangelicals or Fundamentalists can be defined as Race Hatred.

Free Speech is an Individual Right not a Collective one.

They can stand alone on any street corner they like to shout their free speech. Once there are more than the local limit for the number of protesters - arrest them and lock them up.

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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:10 AM
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85. Maybe this church will take over the reins of the republican party.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:17 AM
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86. They said they would picket a military funeral and then didn't show up
Last year, in Northampton PA, they said they were going to picket the funeral of a soldier killed in Iraq. Hundreds of motorcyclists organized convoys, to keep them away from the funeral. The wackos never showed up.
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:01 PM
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117. They showed up at other iraq KIA funerals however.
At least one, I remember. And Fox News reported them as anti-war protesters. Typical Fox assholes.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:19 AM
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87. It takes a special kind of wingnut to make Pat Robertson look like a moderate. nt
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:38 AM
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88. I am sure the 2nd amendment will be upheld
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 08:39 AM by MATTMAN
in this situation. I am sure they will run away scared from the secret service.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:10 AM
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91. I don't care where I am, or what else is going on at the time, someday Fred Phelps will die...
... and I will drop everything, and spend whatever I have to, to go protest at his funeral and then dance on his grave.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:46 AM
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97. Drop dead Fred.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:51 AM
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98. How are these people NOT on the 'no-fly' list??? I mean, how
have they been able to fly since 9/11?


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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:11 AM
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103. Good Question
Especially when there are so many innocent people on that list. It defies logic to me. :shrug:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:01 AM
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101. These people need to be locked up in an asylum. They're nuts. nt
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:14 AM
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104. Scum.
I bet the SS will LOVE an excuse to bash some heads together.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:15 AM
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105. These people are going to straight to hell
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:10 PM
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114. They sure are
Kinda makes you feel sorry for Satan though :evilfrown:
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:37 AM
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108. I wonder if there is no decency act?
If they came to protest the funeral of someone I loved, I can't see how I could ignore them. Are family members and loved ones not entitled to mourn in peace for a few hours?

Are the rights of protesters so important that they eclipse decency and privacy at a singular moment in a person's life?

Personally, this strikes me as a ludicrous policy. There are plenty of other times for protesting. Where's the humanity? If a person or group has a real issue to protest, they can do it without hate. Look at the Iraq Vets Against the War. They're a good example of freedom of speech rights. I'm tired of pretending we don't know what hate is or we can't define it, so it get's equal air time.

Hate is uncivilized and leads to bad things. Hate speech is not protected. This country is better than that. And no, I'm not advocating Fascism. There are gray areas that we are ready to delve into with delicacy and an eye on maintaining rights while encouraging a more accountable and civilized society. I'm tired of free speech being used as an excuse for dangerous and irresponsible rhetoric.

To misconstrue the intentions of free speech to mean you can say anything to anyone at anytime and it's free speech is ridiculous. It's just a symbol of how this country has been systematically taken down to pre-school level comprehension.
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The Craw Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:14 PM
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115. Beat them into a coma
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 12:15 PM by The Craw
First off,Secrert Service will keep this scum as far away from President Obama as possible-

Jesus, these Chrtistian nuts are truly insane....If these Christian wackos showed up at the funeral of my grandmother, I'd kill them.

I hope Obama supporters go and beat some sense into these nutcases...
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:07 PM
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118. This is an opportunity for someone locally to organize a pro-active counter-demonstration.
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 01:07 PM by JackBeck
I did this in Brooklyn right after 9/11 when them came to protest and this form of non-confrontational counter-demonstration apparently drives them more bonkers than they already are:

"Every Minute Counts" is where you get community members to pledge x amount of dollars for every minute that the Phelps crew is demonstrating. After they leave, and once the money is collected, you donate that money to a local LGBT organization.
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susanwy Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:00 PM
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131. See post 58 - ANY DU'ers FROM HAWAWII OR KANSAS
When is the funeral or memorial service? The wings are easy to make and the directions are in the link on page 58.
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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:52 PM
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123. My god
will these people go away?
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:58 PM
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124. Good luck, Fred.
I have no doubt that Fred would view a picket of Toot's funeral as the crowning achievement of his career as the world's most hateful and vicious sack of shit. However, I think it highly unlikely that, security conditions being what they are, he will get within a mile of it.

The Plaid Adder
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:02 PM
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125. They need to build a cage for them and stick it in
the free speech zone. Assholes.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:08 PM
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126. Sick bastards - they really test my free speech absolutism.
That said, as long as they are engaged in non-violent protest, have the proper parade/marching permits, and follow the distance laws, the First Amendment is on their side.
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Voted4Obama Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:22 PM
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127. Heartbroken
My heart sank totally when I read this. But I'm trying to remember that we'll have 4 strong years (minimum) of a Democratic lead that is centrist enough to not cause a "spring back" in 4 years (I hope).

Thanks everyone who posted jokes and sarcasm, a little laughter helped so much in making me feel better.

This is atrocious that this kind of hate group can exist in the USA. It's something I hope Obama puts a stop to.

First time poster
Joe the Web Designer.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:23 PM
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128. Westboro Baptist, meet the Secret Service
I think they can be kept away, in this case, for national security reasons. Scumbags. I don't care if it's this funeral, Matthew Shepherd's or a soldiers, they have no sense of common decency. If they violate the orders of the Secret Service, can the federal government send them to Gitmo?
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:35 PM
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129. What a bunch of FREAKS

SO glad the fringe is back to being the fringe.
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VoodooGuru Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:41 PM
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130. Ironic that they are quoting Amos, often called the prophet of social justice.
I don't even believe in God anymore, but I love this quote:

Hear this, you who trample upon the needy
And destroy the poor of the land!
"When will the new moon be over," you ask,
"that we may sell our grain,
and the sabbath, that we may display the wheat?
We will diminish the ephah,
Add to the shekel,
and fix our scales for cheating!
We will buy the lowly man for silver,
and the poor man for a pair of sandals;
even the refuse of the wheat we will sell!"
The Lord has sworn by the pride of Jacob:
Never will I forget a thing they have done!



But trust Fred Phelps to ignore that the Bible spends a lot more time talking about poverty than what people do with their privates.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:05 PM
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132. Toss them in Gitmo with no due process. Problem solved.
Family of lawyers or not. We won. It's our turn to make people disappear.
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FrameMan Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:48 PM
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133. Fuck
This is bullshit you shouldn't be allowed to picket a fucking funeral. Picketing at a ceremony for the remembrance of someone that died is disgraceful and is not in any way exercising "free speech". I bet the surrounding areas of the ceremony aren't "free speech zones" :)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:51 PM
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134. I would make sure the funeral home arranges for some kind of security. nt
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:55 PM
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135. The republican base.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 05:06 PM
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137. Holy crap how did my thread end up getting so many views?
O_O
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friendly_explainer Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 01:20 AM
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143. H ow your post got so much attention
Someone posted the link to your thread to reddit, where it quickly caught the attention of lots of people and eventually made it to the front page of reddit where tons of people will see it.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 05:13 PM
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138. those worthless shits so deserve the foot headed straight up their ass
.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:13 PM
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140. I doubt they can afford last minute tickets to Hawaii
Dream on hatemongers!
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rexy Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:44 AM
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146. They can easily.
Their wealth comes from all the lawsuits they file and win against pretty much anything/anyone who goes against them.
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ZeitGuy Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:20 PM
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142. I have a long and very personal history with Phelps and his poisoned progeny.
I practically lived next door to these sad and sick wretches for the better part of a decade. My best advice is to ignore them. Fred craves attention. He seeks conflict. His family members, who comprise the bulk of the "parishioners," will eventually die off as a result of their own inbreeding.

Please. Just. Don't. Acknowledge. Them.

They are an unwitting self-parody of ignorance and hate. To grant them any more attention than one might in the act of viewing roadkill from a fast-moving car is to pay them undue honor.

DON'T.
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