Wow, could we really win NC but not VA?

[mvd]

That would be a shock.

[Occam Bandage]

I think both will snap back to where we're expecting them as more numbers come in.

[Borgnine]

1. We'll win VA or my name is not Borgnine.

It's actually not, but we'll win it anyway!

[NRaleighLiberal]

2. Nope. Only red areas counted for the most part. Don't worry...

[mvd]

7. Think we'll win VA - just doing some speculating

:hi:

[Muttocracy]

8. yep - if you look at the county maps, rural VA counties - cities are separate

in Virginia so they are not part of the county counts either.

[cemaphonic]

10. Yeah, no fairfax, loudon, or PW

There's still a bunch of Obama votes coming in from VA. And NC is barely done at all.

[GOPNotForMe]

3. I'll take it! (but yet it would be shocking!)

[BunkerHill24]

4. Obama is leading NC by 200 thousand votes so far on msnbc

[FVZA_Colonel]

5. Still a whole lot areas in VA that are expected to go Blue that have to report in.

I think we could win both.

[justiceischeap]

6. Hell, we could win NC, VA, FL & OH -- that is a...

LANDSLIDE!

[angee_is_mad]

9. Unfunking believable

I'm in Greensboro, NC and I'm bout to lose my mind:beer:

[ellius101]

11. Anyone freaking out go watch John King and his comparison maps

We're doing great! He's comparing McCains "wins" on conservative counties to Bush in 2004 and McCain is underperforming, or Obama is doing better than Kerry! Speaks volumes. Relax! This isnt even taking into account the blue counties.

[sofa king]

12. No way. VA is breaking big.

Look at this magic number: In Alexandria, VA, only 4% of its precincts have reported. So far it's 74% to 45% for Obama.

No major urban center has reported fully yet. It's gonna be a massive swing.

[woolldog]

15. Problem is Obama is underperforming in some south Virginia counties

compared to Kerry, sometimes significantly. The appalachian counties.

Don't know whether Norhern Virginia will be enough to close the gap. I don't get it.

[yourguide]

13. There was sooooooooo much voter supression in VA

that it's possible.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

14. I think we win VA, but it may be close...

[Awsi Dooger]

16. Situational variables

Virginia -- Democratic counties report late

North Carolina -- Obama's huge lead from early voting appearing immediately as the precincts report

Normalcy will prevail. We'll win Virginia and likely hold on in North Carolina, but the margins will be going in opposite directions, in Obama's favor in Virginia and in McCain's direction in North Carolina.

Obama is under performing in relation to Hagan. That's one way to look at the numbers and realize North Carolina will tighten. He's several points behind Hagan's margin.