"Leaked" Obama internal polls for PA???

[stoge18]

Some freeper dumbass was on CNN a few minutes ago and was talking about an Obama internal which showed only a 2 point lead in Pennsylvania. He said there was a news story about this. Only thing I could find was an editorial in some right-wing rag that probably wouldn't even pass for toilet paper in the tightest of pinches. Has anybody else heard of this "leaked" internal poll?

Here's a link to the freeper rag if anybody would care to take a look:

http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/20081026/OPINION/810260310

[Cattledog]

1. This is old news

from last week and it was debunked. If this was true O would be in PA most of next week non stop.

[stoge18]

3. Thanks. Can you point me to a link that debunks?

I need to settle my ass down...... A weekend without Kieth and Rachel is like a weekend without sunshine.

[CreekDog]

10. nope, sorry, can't talk you down. make yourself feel better by calling PA voters.

there are lots of PA polls, none of them show anywhere near a 2 point lead. you are either going to side with a raft of those or tear your hair out over a rumor that is denied.

if that's how you decide what to worry about, we aren't going to be able to fix that here.

sorry for the snark, but think about what you are really demanding --it's totally unreasonable. enough information is readily available for you to figure out that a rumor compared against a bunch of solid polls is not credible.

[stoge18]

12. More of a request than a demand.

Reply said it was old news and debunked. I'm only looking for some reassurance. If somebody says something's been debunked, I don't think it's totally unreasonable to request additional information.

I'm calling PA voters. Support here seems to be solid. I'm confident PA will be bright blue on November 4.

[CreekDog]

13. the campaign said that the person that started the rumor was wrong

and reprimanded.

but that's about it. they didn't say what the internal polls, if any, said.

there simply isn't enough in this actual story to totally dispute the rumor, but there is plenty of other evidence, other polls, etc. suggesting that the rumor is totally bogus.

but as far as someone coming out and saying, "no such poll exists and the real point spread is...," nope that's not there.

nevertheless, Kerry won PA by two points and that was enough to win it. Obama is running a better campaign, has more ads, more outreach and isn't simply relying on Pittsburgh and Philadelphia to carry him over.

[stoge18]

16. Thanks CreekDog.

I just read a a good piece with lots of comments at Daily Kos:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/15/05041/703/752/630799

I now have a much better grasp of the origins of the rumor, and beieve that it's just that, a rumor.

[No Elephants]

33. Here are the latest polls in battleground states from

Real Clear Politics. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html

[Mark E. Smith]

28. If you're upset about laughable nonsense like this ...

... I can't imagine how you get through your days.

[stoge18]

38. Yes. Laughable nonsense it is.

I now realize that. The thoughts of them trying to steal this election get to me from time to time. This was one of those times.

[Donkeykick]

2. Just tell all the good...

Democrats and Independents, that are voting for Obama, to get out and vote on November 4th. The rest will be history in the making. ;)

[Buzz Clik]

4. unlikely. Here's the Pollster.com latest on Pennsylvania:

None of the polls show it even close.

[stoge18]

7. Thanks, Buzz Click.

Allentown Morning Call / Muhlenberg College daily tracking has it O 53 -- m 41.

http://www.mcall.com/news/elections/all-election-president,0,155695.htmlpage

[enki23]

5. what convinces them such a leak, if it existed, would necessary be real?

.

[stoge18]

9. Good question...

I think it'd be best for me to go with the words of wisdom in your sig line. All credible polls show Obama with a comfortable lead in PA.

I'm stressing way too much.

[CANDO]

34. I think it was "leaked" because it was a deliberate lie.

It was to get McCain to spend enormous sums of money in PA so he couldn't challenge Obama as effectively in the red states we are turning blue. Beautiful move and shows McCain as a sucker!

[nomorewhopper]

6. i heard the obama internals showed a 15 point lead in PA

from a good source

[mediaman007]

8. Written by a University of Louisiana, Monroe teacher (with bias):

Kevin A. Unter (in 2006-2007, he was the Faculty Advisor, College Republicans, at Arkansas State University)

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=909160

http://www.thecrimefighters.net/Kevin_Unter.htm

http://www.ulm.edu/gsp/Unter/Unter.pdf

[jerryster]

11. Red states turning blue have McCain desperate.

They have a desperate belief that if they can turn PA red that it will offset those electoral vote losses. Personally, I think McCain's strategists may have already told him it's over. I have NO proof of this, I didn't read it anywhere, I just think it's possible.

[HughMoran]

14. And this news is now 2 WEEKS OLD!!!

Please delete this crap.

[stoge18]

17. Sorry.

Just saw it on CNN this morning. First time I'd heard it. In my defense, I'd like to say that my post isn't the only piece of crap flying around on DU.

[HughMoran]

20. I can't believe CNN is still repeating this crap

Even if it WERE true, it's OLD NEWS - polls change in 2 weeks and POLLS HAVE ERROR!!!

[Hokie]

15. Notice the comment about Joe the Fake Plumber

It was very insightful ;)

[Frank Booth]

18. Oh boy.

Yeah, I don't know what to believe, some guy saying that some guy said that at some point Obama's internal polls may have showed him up only 2 in PA, or the mountains of actual polling data that show Obama with at least an 8 point lead.

[stoge18]

19. Just a request for more info., that's all. n/t

[alcibiades_mystery]

21. Oh SHUT THE FUCK UP already

How many times do we have to deal with this stupidity?

[Fluffdaddy]

24. Can anyone post a question that DOESN'T meet your limited world view?

Thank God no one made you emperor of the internet

[alcibiades_mystery]

25. Shouldn't you be off race-baiting?

:shrug:

[Fluffdaddy]

26. Race matters. Don't fool yourself in to thinking that it doesn't. just ask Congressman John Murtha

He knows his area.

[Cosmic Charlie]

31. oh noess!!! Race only matters to racists.

nice avatar by the way :puke:

[stoge18]

27. No. YOU shut the fuck up.

Simple fucking question referring to something I'd heard for the first time on MSM. And you have nothing better than personal insults.

[Fluffdaddy]

39. You are right..........all he/she knows are personal insults

[dansolo]

22. "Please don't thrown me into the briar patch"

If McCain is using this alleged leaked poll as the reason for his decision to throw all his resources into PA, then I'd say his campaign has been majorly punked.

[saltpoint]

23. When you're in the Stage IV phase of a terminal illness, you'll believe

that pig urine is a miracle curative.

[WeDidIt]

FAIL

[progressivebydesign]

29. Oh dear god.. not THIS again. A field director made up an email to roust his volunteers...

Lower level employees are NOT privy to internals.

What's up today with people coming here with the Fox news smears... is it going to be one of those days???

[stoge18]

35. Thanks for the information.

This morning was first time I'd heard of it. Some McSame spokeperson was talking about it on CNN.

[Cosmic Charlie]

30. thanks for posting a link to freeper trash, now we know to avoid your future postings

[RagAss]

32. Get Lost troll !

[stoge18]

37. Oh I see....

Asking you all information makes me a troll. That's all it was -- a simple request for information.

[JimGinPA]

36. ...

:popcorn:

[saltpoint]

40. There are some blog reports that some in McCain's camp believe

Pennsylvania can still be up for grabs, despite recent polling.

Then again, some people used to think tomatoes were neurotoxic.

Turns out they aren't.