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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:00 AM
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Grammar Expert attempts to diagram a Palin word salad sentence
http://www.polysyllabic.com/?q=node/224


"I know that John McCain will do that and I, as his vice president, families we are blessed
with that vote of the American people and are elected to serve and are sworn in on January 20,
that will be our top priority is to defend the American people. " Palin






Lengthy discussion at link. Blurb:
..."The end of the sentence also appears hopelessly ungrammatical: "that will be our top priority is to defend the American people." Although you could fix the sentence by deleting is and treating to defend the American people as a trailing modifier, I think that solution is too charitable. It's not plausible in terms of on-the-fly processing, since the sentence is structurally complete after "our top priority." In other words, is cannot be explained as an initial, discarded attempt. Rather, it is tacked on later and so Palin is guilty of a structure shift in which she loses track of the earlier part of the sentence. Our top priority starts as the complement of be but then morphs into the subject of is. I don't consider this to be the same as a false start. In a false start, the aberrant unit simply has no place in the larger structure. In this case, the strange unit needs to work in two different places."








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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:02 AM
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1. I took a test before and after and my IQ officially dropped 22 points
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:07 AM
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6. LOL. Hi GC ! I think it's scary - especially after I read it's a symptom
of schizophrenia. Oh well - we're not going to have to worry about that anyway, are we.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:33 AM
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11. yeah there is a pretty serious discussion on this thread about it
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:02 AM
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2. The teleprompter hiccuped...
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:03 AM
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3. Who's stupider: the idiot, or the person trying to analyze the idiot's sentences?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:06 AM
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5. Are you kidding? She's a grammarian's dream. Grammarians are idiots?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:09 AM
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8. I don't have a lot to say about people who do "water is wet" studies.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 08:52 AM
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17. Except for all the times that the study proves
that a widely accepted 'truth' isn't true. Rigor is boring and not everyone's cup of tea, I get that, but don't discount it.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:15 AM
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10. English Professors make a career of parsing sentences ...
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 12:20 AM by Trajan
This lady is vying for the office of President of the United States ...

I feel it is worth HIS while and MY while for this person to analyze her speech ...

It isn't stupid at all ....

I could not disagree more; for both your comment and your tone towards a fellow DUer ...
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:37 AM
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12. (facepalm)
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Takket Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:05 AM
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4. ?
That diagram looks like the sanitary piping system for an office building. Makes sense since that sentance and sanitary piping both convey solid and liquid waste
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:08 AM
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7. Slate did a similar article, here:
"There are plenty of people out therenot only English teachers but also amateur language buffs like mewho believe that diagramming a sentence provides insight into the mind of its perpetrator. The more the diagram is forced to wander around the page, loop back on itself, and generally stretch its capabilities, the more it reveals that the mind that created the sentence is either a richly educated onewith a Proustian grasp of language that pushes the limits of expressionor such an impoverished one that it can produce only hot air, baloney, and twaddle."



http://www.slate.com/id/2201158/
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:14 AM
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9. This is a regular feature of her speech ...
Disjointed, jittered nonsense ...

She isn't ready for ready for the fifth grade, let alone the highest office in the land ...
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:46 AM
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13. I like the way "families" is floating out there unattached, struck out.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:26 AM
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20. "Families" is an untethered appositive. Think
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 10:27 AM by coalition_unwilling
of it like a pronoun lacking a clear (or any) antecedent (or maybe even a dangling participle?).
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:31 PM
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21. I thought of it as a metaphor for their "pro-family" bullshit, since their policies are anti-family.
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IndianaJohn Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:02 AM
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14. I loved sentence diagramming when in school and was...
really good at it. Of course I never had to diagram anything as ridiculous as what Sarah Palin says. Seeing the complex diagram above just cracked me up.

Thanks for the laugh.
:rofl:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:05 AM
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15. They need to reboot her software
At least Romney's had fewer bugs. :crazy:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 08:48 AM
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16. Yes! But, we can thank our lucky stars Mittens, or Huckleberry, or
9-11. They are all 100% devoid of ideas - but they are all persuasive and articulate.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:04 AM
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18. and for 150k they could have given Huckleberry a head of hair and perfect teeth
so i kinda feel bad for him.

for 150k Romney could have had a new ECM installed, with new and improved pandering. :think:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:25 AM
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19. Ya. Huckleberry could have probably gotten a loose skin tightening
operation too.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:33 PM
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22. Well it clearly ain't her family tree
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