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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:18 PM
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Ladies and Gentlemen; please refrain from the words "Bitch, Whore and Cunt"
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 09:45 PM by crankychatter
language defamatory of race, ethnicity, sexual preference OR sex, is extremely offensive... regardless of who it is directed against or under what circumstances.

like this better now?

edited by public demand
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:19 PM
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1. Ok*y
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:19 PM
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2. tell it to mccain
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:21 PM
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8. We don't want to be like him.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:20 PM
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3. I agree - I think putting asterisks in words is ignorant, cowardly, and fucknuttish.
Just use the word, folks. No sense hiding behind asterisks.

Thanks for speaking out against that idiocy.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:20 PM
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4. Birch Whale and Cost?
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:21 PM
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9. Botch, White, and Coot? These are all words describing McCain, it seems to me.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:20 PM
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5. Oh yeah?? BEACH! WHITE! COAT!
:)
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:26 PM
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14. Ha! Smart-alecs of the world, unite!
:toast:
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:21 PM
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6. "Bunch, White, and Cast?" What's wrong with those?
:shrug:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:21 PM
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7. I'll whine about the beach if I want to, you Clot!
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:22 PM
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10. If we REALLY need to use the word can we say....
C U Next Tuesday?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:24 PM
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11. *f y*u sa* s*
I'* coo* w*th t*at.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:24 PM
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12. F**k th*t
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:24 PM
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13. Other words you shouldn't say...
D*CK
C**K
P**PY
F*RTHEAD
CHE*SE D*NISH
****F** ***Q*****
WINK*
F*DGE STRIP*R
B*ST*RD
*STER*CK

and

Jo*n *c*ain
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:30 PM
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19. CHE*SE D*NISH?
:rofl:

RL
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:45 PM
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35. Sh*t....we can't say puppy now?
*CK
C**K
P**PY <---------------------------<<<<
F*RTHEAD
CHE*SE D*NISH
****F** ***Q*****
WINK*
F*DGE STRIP*R
B*ST*RD
*STER*CK

and

Jo*n *c*ain

:rofl:
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:26 PM
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15. was the beach sunny today????




CHange, HOpe, OBama......!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:28 PM
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17. I can't say. I saw a whale, though.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:27 PM
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16. There will be no further use of the F-word, the N-word, the C-word, the R-word, either L-word,
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 09:27 PM by Occam Bandage
any of the K-words, or the #-word.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:28 PM
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18. if you see that language, just report it. mods are quick to just delete such posts
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:30 PM
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20. it's no different than a racial epithet and is highly offensive - NT
laugh all you like

I love cussing

I do not love language defamatory of race, culture, ethnicity, sex or sexual preference

call me a liberal if you will

P.C. and all that...

it's just completely out of character for this board...

the story of that person committing fraud is going precisely nowhere
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:47 PM
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36. LOL
"completely out of character" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:31 PM
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21. Yes, Marmee
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:33 PM
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22. But "goatse" is ok, no problem, right?
As in, Sarah Palin came to us by way of a moose goatse. (no link)

It's not offensive, and the originator is, I believe, dead and would not be offended by it's use.

Thanks in advance. :hi:
.
.
.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:37 PM
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24. Goatse is never okay.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:42 PM
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30. That's going to disappoint a certain interest group.
As small as the group may be...
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:36 PM
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23. In 2001, when DU first started
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 09:37 PM by Nevernose
There was an automatic filter that parsed out any words deemed "offensive." The filter itself was offensive. That was just FYI.

I agree with you, though, we should generally refrain form making disparaging remarks about people based on sex, gender, race, ethnicity, religion, whatever. We're far too creative a group to limit ourselves that way. I'd be pretty pissed if someone called my daughter a bitch.

That having been said, maybe some of us (not me that I can remember) feel like there are times when certain words provide certain connotations, and we should ask ourselves "Is this poster connoting a sexist slander or merely a precise feeling?" I think back to passover with my stepfather at his brother's house. When we left, every year, as soon as the door closed, he'd tuck his yarmulke in his back pocket and say, "Your Aunt Flo: what a kvetch." There's not really a better word for her, god love her. So maybe sometimes -- sometimes -- you have to call a kvetch a kvetch.

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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:38 PM
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25. I'm guessing here
but I seriously have no idea what the wh**e word is.

White?


Oh and "can't" isn't in my vocabulary either.

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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:39 PM
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26. Oh and just please don't
take fuck and all its variations and derivations away from me, ok?

What about calling someone a douche? Douchenozzle?
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:40 PM
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27. I've checked the dictionary and...
B**ch, Wh**e and C**t aren't words so you don't have to worry about me using them.

In fact I couldn't find ANY words in the dictionary containing back to back asterisks.

:rofl:


Doug D.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:40 PM
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28. While you're at it-
are there any other words we should throw down the memory hole just because you want to? We the hell did you become my boss? Posts like this are ridicules and very undemocratic.

Don't tell me what to say, write or think.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:41 PM
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29. BIRCH WHOLE CHAT!!
Nyah nyah :)
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:42 PM
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31. SERIOUSLY! What is the wh**e word???
I can't think of a single profanity that is like that.
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Captiosus Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:45 PM
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34. Not a profanity, per se, but deragatory..
Let's just say it's a not so nice way to describe a prostitute.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:07 PM
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41. Whale?
Oh whore! I never see that word here.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:43 PM
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32. "Bench Whole Cast" ???
Wow... tough director.

:evilgrin:
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:44 PM
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33. "Bitch" "whore" and "cunt" are only words. Sexist opinion on DU will exist with or without them.
So why censor the words, which are only a symptom of the problem? The most virulent and incendiary sexist posts on DU could just as easily be posted without those specific epithets. "Twat," "ho," "skank" and others wouldn't make the actual message any better, would they? I'm not sure why some derogatory gender-based epithets are necessarily more powerful than others--do "bitch" "whore" and "cunt" have a similar hierarchy of badness? Is "whore" a little less bad than "cunt?"

It's true that these words cause great reflexive offense, and one can't argue with those who take offense at their mention. It's an honest and justified response backed up by a long history of usage, and can't be proved "wrong" by any means. I'm just not sure that the ugly message itself is any less ugly when lacking the aforementioned words. On that basis, why censor the specific words?

My post here sounds ridiculous and insensitive, but I have a huge problem with word-police of all stripes. I've never used the words myself on DU to refer to women, but if they all disappeared I'm not convinced the discussion of women would be appreciably less offensive.

:hide:
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Captiosus Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:49 PM
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38. I approve of this channeling of the spirit of Carlin.
I get tired of people talking about bad words and bad language. Bullshit! It's the context which makes them good or bad!
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:31 PM
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47. by your logic, racial epithets are perfectly acceptable on DU
I ain't the fucking "word police"

I don't expect anyone to modify their behavior one iota

it's simply a request and my truth

and despite the frivolity here... I'm not alone
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:48 PM
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37. If I feel it necessary, I will use them.
Censorship is bullshit.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:50 PM
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39. I reserve the right to call Palin a Nazi cow. n/t
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:55 PM
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40. What about Hctib, Erohw and Tnuc?
:dem:
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:09 PM
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42. HEY.
You just said bitch whore and cunt.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:11 PM
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43. Using those words against women are sexist no matter how it's justified...
I've complained about their usage here on DU for a long time, but the majority feels it's completely acceptable. Using the 'n' word isn't acceptable here at DU, but those are. Go figure.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:16 PM
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45. No matter how? Really?
I recall quite a few Hillary supporters proudly using the word "bitch" to refer to their candidate. Moreover, the word "whore" is quite commonly used as an analogy for one who sells himself or herself--politically or professionally speaking--for money. It's strange to say that such usage is offensive when applied to women but not when applied to men. Men, after all, are just as capable of engaging in prostitution as women are.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:13 PM
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44. And now, I present a brief study in language.
A: "Sarah Palin can suck me off. A woman like her is only useful for one thing, and you can tell by looking at her that that it ain't gonna be thinking or talking."

B: "Can anybody really take John McCain's claim of being a "maverick" seriously when he whores himself out to any right-wing interest group with deep pockets?"

I find one of these to be defamatory and offensive. It isn't the one with one of your bad words in it.
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Mushroom Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:20 PM
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46. I agree crankychatter
but I've just recently changed my mind about sexist vocabulary. I will from now on call republicans Males, ED, or Penis Vacuums as long as democrats use bitch, whore, ho, cunt and douche nozzle to describe a political party that has just about destroyed America and the entire planet. I will describe republicans as impotent from now on as I will also describe hypocritical democrats as impotent.

My decision doesn't make sense, and would make me a hypocrite as well, but I've had it.

:kick:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:31 PM
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48. When Used In Appropriate Context, All 3 Of Them Are Fine In My Opinion.
For example, Sarah Palin is both a bitch and a cunt. I don't consider her to be a whore though. I think that's an unfair slander.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:36 PM
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49. Mods agree:
Please refrain from using those words. With or without asterisks.

best,
wakemeupwhenitsover

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