**** Official Drudge alleged Obama mutilation story Skepticism Thread ****

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

(Stars make it official)

Re: Drudge Report 'B' CARVED INTO 20-YEAR OLD WOMAN'S FACE... DEVELOPING... SHOCK: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH

I would bet long money the "carving" is tentative, as is often the case with self-inflicted injuries.

People who fake crimes often have comical ideas about how genuine bad people behave and tend to gild the fake-crime lilly with bizarre Lifetime Network style melodramatic flourishes. (For instance, the Army doctor who murdered his family in the 1970s and tried to pin it on hippies said the attackers chanted, "Acid is cool. Kill the Pigs." --exactly the sort of thing some psychotic square imagines hippies do.)

It seems a woman was robbed at an ATM then says she was beaten by her black assailant after he noticed her McCain bumper sticker, and that he then said he was going to 'teach her a lesson' (about supporting McCain) and carved a "B" into her face with a knife. The beating and "mutilation" took places outside the view of the security camera.

My guess is that after a real robbery, and perhaps a real altercation and perhaps even a real beating about her bumper-sticker, the victim figured she could do some good for Real America; gilding the lilly by scratching a half-assed B in her face with her car keys or a nail file while waiting for police.



ON EDIT: BINGO. Backward B and clearly self inflicted with car keys or nail file! When I predicted 'tentative' wounds I wasn't expecting something THAT tentative. There are about twenty strokes there and none breaking the skin!



/END EDIT/

The approach Edward G. Robinson takes in DOUBLE INDEMNITY is a good one...

ATM robberies are common. ATM robberies of white women (I am assuming her ethnicity, but probably on safe ground) by black men are common. Violence in robberies is common.

ATM robbers carving letters in people is, however, VERY uncommon. Particularly in such a way they do not subsequently seek or require medical attention.

(MSNBC says she went to the hospital. The original newspaper story said she declined medical attention.)

ODD NOTE: fairly or unfairly, adult victims of violent crimes other than rape are often publicly identified in news reports. Does PA have a unique state law about crime victim identities?

If she didn't seek medical treatment, so it must not have been much of a "mutilation." (But even if the cuts were non-trivial there might be a reason to decline treatment... a medical professional would have little trouble identifying self-inflicted cuts.)

[Jersey Devil]

1. This story is not a big deal but DU is making it one

We never learn

[greenvpi]

4. I disagree!

When we can pin it on McCain as a lame attempt to make Obama look bad, he will go to prison and his political career will be over. This could be a huge deal.

[scheming daemons]

7. I agreed with you... until MSNBC started running with it....

[TheDonkey]

55. Yes, unfortunately MSNBC producers are probably trolling DU and Drudge

looking for stories. It's ridiculous they'd pick this up as breaking news when there are so many holes.

[EFerrari]

28. Speak for yourself. I've learned to call these bastards out on their bullshit.

[d_b]

2. This says shes a mccain staffer

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08297/922320-100.stm

PrintPrint
McCain staffer says she was mugged, had 'B' cut into face
Thursday, October 23, 2008
By Michael A. Fuoco, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Pittsburgh Police are investigating a report by a campaign staffer for John McCain that she was mugged and the letter B was cut into her face following a robbery in Bloomfield last night.

Police say the 20-year-old woman, who is from Texas, reported that the attack occurred after she withdrew money from an ATM at Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street.

She said a man armed with a knife demanded her money. She gave it to him and began walking toward her car, which has McCain stickers.

Although the robber had moved away from her, he became agitated when he saw her car, punched her in the back of the head, pushed her to the ground and carved a B into her face, she reported.

Police said the woman declined medical treatment at the scene.
More details in tomorrow's Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
First published on October 23, 2008 at 4:24 pm


Ashley Todd is her name, phone bank volunteer


^^ posting this stuff from another forum.

[scheming daemons]

5. We need to find out if Ashley Todd is related to Susan Smith

[Godhumor]

6. Ooh, I bet I can guess the forum

Considering I'm reading the thread over there right now.

[d_b]

11. HAHA

*vox switchblade.


what's up, brah?! =p

[Godhumor]

17. I knew you posted here, we seemed to always find the same links

It's interesting there because you can immediately tell who's a freeper and who's a DUer by the new threads that get posted.

[d_b]

19. lulz

I thought I was the only DU war roomer

[grantcart]

8. phone bank volunteer --- from Texas --- no treatment after she was carved

uh huh

[Stephist]

12. So a 6ft 4inch Man punched her in the back of the head and carved a B in her face

BUT she wasn't hurt bad enough to go to the hospital. Damn she is strong.

[grantcart]

3. Beaten kicked and carved on but didn't need treatment

how many times do we have to listen to these fake "black guy" did it before they give it some scrutiny before releasing it to the public?

[cliffordu]

9. How did the "perp" know what bumper sticker was hers????

Ummm.....bank machine cameras???

[grantcart]

10. out of view of the cameras lol

[Thorandmjolnir]

I was wondering the same thing

It says she walked toward her car. How did he know which car was hers? How close was she to her car. If you had just been mugged a knife point, would you "walk towards your car" or try to find other people or run to a public place.

I think the last place I would be would be in a car with a mugger following me.

[Lex]

42. evidently he was psychic too

and could just tell which car was hers

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

13. She's a McCain supporter.

Therefore, we can conclude she's an intellectually dishonest racist.

[writes3000]

21. Actually, she volunteers for the McCain campaign. nt

[justiceischeap]

14. My take on this story

It's awfully convenient that this happened in Western Pennsylvania, a BATTLEGROUND state, where recently Murtha decried the area as being racist. Suddenly, a woman is mugged and the mugger takes the time to notice a McCain* sticker on her car, she sticks around for him to come back to her and "carve" the letter 'B' (when an 'O' would have been much more convenient) and then get away without being seen?

I call bullshit and I hope this is investigated thoroughly and debunked quickly.

[justiceischeap]

15. Dupe

[WeDidIt]

16. Photo of the alleged victim

[justiceischeap]

18. The B is backwards, like someone did it in, I don't know a mirror! (eom)

[WeDidIt]

20. DING DING DING DING DING!

Yeppers.

[grantcart]

29. just like Downey

In 1989, as fascination with Downey's TV show began to wane, he was involved in an incident in a San Francisco International Airport restroom in which he claimed to have been attacked by neo-Nazis who painted a swastika on his face and attempted to shave his head. Some inconsistencies in Downey's account (e.g., the swastika was painted in reverse, suggesting that Downey had drawn it himself in a mirror), and the failure of the police to find supportive evidence, led many to suspect that the incident was a hoax and a plea for attention.[

[Ian David]

70. A dyslexic mugger mugged her at the MTA to get her yenom. n/t

[fasttense]

109. Just like redrum redrum, in the Shining.

kcaraB amabO, a dyslexic, politically active, psychic mugger, only in America.

[writes3000]

22. That's not real, is it?

[WeDidIt]

23. IT sure is

http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2008/10/mccain-staffer-claims-b-was-carved-into.html

[soccermomforobama]

24. where did you find a photo? (n/t)

[WeDidIt]

26. Look in the post right above yours.

or click here:

http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2008/10/mccain-staffer-claims-b-was-carved-into.html

[Thorandmjolnir]

25. where did you get that photo from?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

37. Could someone I don't have on ignore repost the photo? Thanks!

[justiceischeap]

48. Let's hope you don't have me on ignore since no one knows who you're ignoring

[Marsala]

27. That's a pretty pitiful "B"

It doesn't look carved at all. The black eye disturbs me much more.

[greenvpi]

31. Ha, a coworker...

who was looking over my shoulder just said, "She's lying. No brother would have touched that ugly fat face." We're still laughing.

[mrcheerful]

46. Excuse me but the B, if this is an actualy pic of the victim isn't even close to what

a knife blade injury looks like, remember knives cut so a knife wound would have sharp edges not wide marks. That looks more like a finger or thumb nail wound. It would explain why she refused medical treatment, a doctor would know that mark was not from a knife blade.

[Lex]

56. Looks like a fingernail did it, eh?

[mrcheerful]

66. Back in my younger years I had my face slashed by someone

who mistook me for someone else. Just the tip of the blade caught me and it left a thin fine line on my check. I have also seen guys crave gf's names into their arms using knives, we are talking about knives which are cutting tools. Btw, why are they cops calling it scratch? If a knife had been used they would have said cut. To be honest I have never seen a knife make such a wound. Though I have had a few of these marks on my back from gf's that got caught up in passion.

[Blue Diadem]

OMG the B is backwards!

You know, she obviously got beat up and probably robbed, but this backward B is something that I say is BS.

[Lex]

58. A bright idea from a not very bright person

who, when using her fingernail to scratch it on her face, while looking in the mirror, forgot to turn the B around.

[Warren DeMontague]

30. THE "B" on her face IS APPARENTLY BACKWARDS.

Enough said.

[SweetieD]

34. Maybe the mugger was dyslexic?

[Sheltiemama]

49. *Snort*

That's not "carved." That's "scratched." Put some Neosporin on it and admit you did it yourself, lady.

[Ichingcarpenter]

44. Too Easy isn't it? Take your finger and write a B on your face

its naturally backwards.

You don't even need a mirror to do it wrong. You will naturally write it backwards.

[ecstatic]

32. I wonder if McCain/Palin plan to get involved in this story as their last hope nt

[FVZA_Colonel]

35. Someone's going to try and fan the flame's of "black men attacking young white girls!" fears.

[reflection]

33. It was Borro. n/t

[FloridaGrl]

36. I am very skeptical

and I hope they have a in-depth investigation. It's so weird that this incident took place and so far we have heard of no witnesses and supposedly it was out of the view of the security camera. All we have are her words.
I believe this is the story: The scary black people are on the attack, how can we even consider having their kind in the whitehouse.

[NRaleighLiberal]

38. Isn't there a PBS Palin poll that needs DUing??! NT

[Lex]

50. Oh, you are bad!

:rofl:

[Ikonoklast]

39. This will be de-bunked wthin twenty-four hours.

She's gonna regret the publicity, just like Phony the Plumber.

[Youphemism]

40. "dark-skinned black man, short black hair, brown eyes, dark jeans, black undershirt & black shoes.."

"The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes."

Sounds like quite a color motif we've got going here.

Looking at the photo, I don't see how that B was "cut" or "carved" (backwards) into her face. There's no broken skin. It looks like it was scraped.

[Vinca]

47. It looks like it was done while looking in a mirror. nt

[catlady]

57. Was this picture taken right after the attack? There appears to be no swelling on her eye at all.

[Wolfies Revenge]

61. look at her right eye

nevermind the backwards B.

Look at her eye. Looks like makeup smudged doesn't it. You can see the black liner on the top of her lid. I've had black eyes before and they don't look like that. they are more purple, red and uneven yellowness.

Plus, her eye whites are perfectly fine. No redness or busted vessels. This whole thing stinks.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

67. That is the weirdest looking black eye I have ever seen.

As I make-up artist, I had to study what an assortment of facial injuries looked like, at various times after the victim received those injuries. I have seen some pretty black looking "black eyes", but not without some sort of swelling and/or redness in the white of the eye involved. There is ZERO swelling in her eye or cheek area -- ZERO :shrug: Heck, even after rhinoplasty it is common for a patient to get truly black eyes, but there is still swelling. And that "b" is definately scratched in with something other than a knife, unless it was the most blunt knife on the planet. And then, the backwards thing. :eyes:

[Jed Dilligan]

41. Attention-seeking nitwit carves self after possible robbery.

end of story

[Lex]

52. The backwards "B" is a dead give away

:wtf:

[Jed Dilligan]

62. It's possible that someone reversed the photo, but really...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

63. Either way, just try doing that with a *knife* in a struggle without breaking the skin

[Jed Dilligan]

72. I know, I've been attacked at knifepoint,

and it's no occasion for penmanship. She was sitting very still when that thing was done.

[Parker CA]

43. There is no possible way a person would take the time to carefully "carve"

a "B" with perfect symetrical "c's" along the line to form the letter. Someone angry and mugging a person would leave longer knife lines and there surely would not be perfect connections of strokes creating the letter. And, if this was not done in a mirror, the mugger would have done it from an angle above her head while her entire body flailed around. There is no way this happened. This is clearly a set up.

[Thorandmjolnir]

45. If you follow the link to her picture, there is another

link to her blog.

There she talks about trying to find an ATM and having a speeding ticket. Nothing about being mugged.

[yardwork]

54. She got a speeding ticket? Suddenly a motive appears...

[Roland99]

73. What link? What blog?

[TheDonkey]

51. Did she file a police report? Will this be investigated (did she remember to reverse the B?!)

Smells like shit to me.

[Lex]

53. D'oh!

Forgot about turning the B around!

[TheDonkey]

102. This is so f*cked up! That girl should be ashamed

but people never learn. I cannot believe the "backwards" letter/symbol trap strikes again. History does repeat itself. :rofl:

[Blue Diadem]

59. She said she'd go to the hospital today. Obama-Biden released a statement.

http://kdka.com/politics/McCain.Campaign.Worker.2.847449.html

The unidentified woman reportedly declined immediate medical attention last night but said she would go to the hospital today.

The suspect ran off after the attack; but police are hoping that footage from bank surveillance camera may help lead them to the suspect.

In an official statement the McCain campaign says: "We're shaken up by this. It's sick and disgusting."

snip:

Meanwhile, late this afternooon, the Obama-Biden campaign released a statement, saying: "This is a horrendous act of violence. Our thoughts and prayers are with the young woman for her to make a speedy recovery, and we hope that the person who perpetrated this crime is swiftly apprehended and brought to justice."

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

60. MCCAIN STAFFER FAKES RACIAL HATE-CRIME TO SMEAR OBAMA

Any other headline is a scam.

[Born_A_Truman]

64. Ummmm...

While I wait for more confirmation, when did this happen? With a black eye, usually there are broken blood vessels associated with injury.

[Lex]

65. Less than 24 hours ago

supposedly at 9pm last night (but no redness or swelling around her black eye). Hmmm.

[Abacus]

68. My notes:

1) Backwards B is not because of flipped photo. Hair is parted the same here:


2) She kept a peculiarly boring play-by-play of events leading up to the mugging:
http://twitter.com/atodd

Oh the blog I will be making soon... Its been a rough night #litf08 about 18 hours ago from TwitterBerry

Pretty sure I'm on the wrong side of pittsburgh about 21 hours ago from TwitterBerry

Stubbornly searching for a bank of america to avoid ATM fees. about 21 hours ago from TwitterBerry

3) Would you notice someone's shoes? In the dark? With lots of adrenaline?

This story stinks.


Edit:

4) My biggest reservation was wondering someone would really be motivated enough to not only subject themselves to this, but then turn it into a media campaign.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/23/mccain-supporter-maimed-for-her-politics-by-robber/

all I can tell you is that I got this from a source close to Ashley, who assured me that she wanted to go public (it was also on her Twitter page) and that the photo came directly from her.

Reservation allayed.

[renate]

75. well I for one would be interested in whether or not she can find a B of A, and why

Not.

But I'm kind of an old fogey... do people really twitter about things like bank fees?

[BronxBoy]

86. If you think you're in a bad neighborhood

Why would you drive around trying to find am ATM where you can avoid fees???

[intheflow]

100. No kidding.

You'd use up more in gas money than the fee.

Also, she can blog but she can't go the B of A web site to look up where there might be ATM locations in PA?

[Ian David]

69. Only a Bob Barr supporter would carve a "B" n/t

[Roland99]

71. Prediction: Black eye is obviously days old. She told McCain campaign a lie to cover for her BF!!

I bet she got beaten by an abusive boyfriend and came up with a lame-ass excuse to cover for it.

[workinclasszero]

74. I call BS on this story!

Looks like a self inflicted car key backward B...like done looking in a mirror!

How fuckin low can the republicans go????????????:puke:

[anneboleyn]

76. That "black eye" is clearly mascara -- it is smeared across her face, not at all typical

of a bruise, which usually has multiple levels of color, not just mascara black!

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

77. A black eye is one of the most varied, unpredictable injuries there is.

Nobody should generalize about black eyes. They sometimes involve swelling, or no swelling. They come from a blow to the eye, or the nose, or even the cheekbone if someone bruises easily. Or no blow at all... some people can get black eyes from shaking injuries.

If it's make-up it's quite sophisticated, versus the half-assed "B"

The subtle continuation to the other eye is way too clever, and perfectly in keeping with a black eye caused by a blow to the nose on a pale woman who bruises easily.

I have no problem with the black eye. (Assuming the picture is from the next day) And I have little doubt she was mugged.

I think she's a wing-nut who was mugged and tried to fake up a political story out of it.

[anneboleyn]

79. Medical personnel have posted on other threads that this is not a real black eye in their opinion

because there is no redness in either eye at all, which does not happen.

[vaberella]

81. A good majority of McCain supporters are fuckin' crazy and RACIST!!!

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

82. "Medical personal" routinely amputate the wrong limb.

The DU expert corps is an ongoing embarrassment.

Berni_McCoy's half-assed post about redness in the eye is stupid even by DU standards.

You do not get reddening of the eye unless the EYE is injured.

Many black eyes, like this one, come from a blow to the nose that doesn't touch the eye at all. (The force of the blow breaks a lot of little blood vessels.)

Actual medical personnel should have the sense to know that black eyes come in all shapes and sizes and colors and durations.

[Born_A_Truman]

78. Agree

No swelling, etc. Looks like smudged mascara or eye shadow.

[vaberella]

80. That's how far these idiots will go to attack us.

Inflict their own damn wounds. Jeezus. Was this the case those idiots on Faux Noise was talking about?

[workinclasszero]

85. Oh they will go farther than that before its all over

I think you can count on that. These people are hardcore fascists, keep that in mind. Fascists ain't known for their love and kindness toward their fellow man.

McKKKain and Palin have got the repub mobs whipped up into a froth at the mouth hating frenzy.

I'd be real careful the closer it gets to election day. The KKK wing of the republican party is gonna do something terribly evil I bet.

[vaberella]

96. I'm bloody happy I live in NYC for that reason.

Yet it hurts that there are states in where this shit is going on. Damn backwards people.

[XemaSab]

83. Acid is GROOVY, dammit.

:P

[grantcart]

84. latest media link

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_594853.html

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

87. LOL. Partisan but not greedy: "put a knife to her throat and demanded $60"

"Ashley Todd, 20, of College Station, Texas, was using an ATM at Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street in Bloomfield just before 9 p.m. Wednesday when a man approached her, put a knife to her throat and demanded $60, police said."

[grantcart]

90. from her MySpace page?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7577744#7577866

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=8513159

"Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking her cloths off, but its better if you do."

Female
23 years old
College Station, Texas
United States

[WindRiverMan]

88. Her attacker was dyslexic I gather.

[grantcart]

89. McCain supporter, Physician states wound is self inflicted, crime committed

http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2008/10/mccain-staffer-claims-b-was-carved-into.html


Sorry to say but as a Physician, those lacerations (if you want to call them that)could not come from a knife of any sort, sharp or dull. Also, from the way her cheek is manifesting as red and irritated (synonymous for scratches) makes it an easy prognosis for me:

This is indeed a self-inflicted 'wound' most likely done with either a paper clip or quite possibly a fingernail.

If you would look at the BOTTOM of the letter, there are 2 DISTINCT and SEPARATE marks (what did the mugger do? Go over the same area with a different line?). This is not plausible in any form.

This is a fraudulent attempt at falsifying an attack and is illegal since a police report was filed. Why was she allowed to 'walk away' from the scene or a mugging/attack?

She never offered a description of her attacker other than he was 'supposedly' an Obama supporter. Was he white, black, latino??
This is outrageous and demands further scrutiny. Also suspect are the blackeyes. Although real, the contusions are not reminiscent of a frontal punch as there are no abrasions/contusions above the eye socket (men have big, large knuckles) and the area around the eye socket is sensitive soft tissues. This woman is committing fraud via Munchhausen By Proxy and should be jailed for submitting a false police report/complaint. And the only reason WHY she would refuse to seek medical treatment is that she knows her story would not hold up under a physicians examination.

And no, I am not an Obama supporter, I am voting McCain but these false allegations and rumors must stop. As a Dr, I can not fathom why people go to great lengths to lie about being attacked.

Someone needs to have her examined for 'a possible concussion' from being 'punched in the head', that alone would have allowed the police to forcefully admit her as if she in some way passes out while driving home after the 'attack, the police department would be liable for allowing her to leave with possible 'brain trauma'.

This story is a joke and not funny people

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

91. He's right, but I question whether he's a doctor.

He's right about the scratches, but that's glaringly obvious to anyone.

He doesn't know what "Munchhausen By Proxy" means, though, which is fishy.

In the original version of this post I said, "Paging Baron Munchhausen" because the woman is displaying Munchhausen syndrome, but not Munchhausen By Proxy. (That's when you inflict illnesses on others for attention... usually a child. Like the little girl in THE SIXTH SENSE. Hence, "by proxy.")

[grantcart]

93. of course he also might not be a McCain supporter also lol

[ContinentalOp]

92. If you were going to carve the mark of Obama into somebody's face, wouldn't you carve an "O"?

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but even if they would have done such a horrible thing, any Obama supporter would have carved an O, not a B. It makes more sense, it's easier to carve, and it's his logo FFS.

:shrug:

[ShortnFiery]

94. Ding! Ding! Ding!

Yes we have a winner. :thumbsup:

[BruceWane]

95. This supposedly happened LAST NIGHT?

You can certainly get a black eye (or eyes) without a lot of facial swelling from a bump on the bridge of your nose - doesn't even have to be all that hard.

But this supposedly happened LAST NIGHT?

Sorry, but it takes a while for a black eye to "bloom". It'll be red or purple for days before fading to that color. It doesn't look BLACK like that for a long time (if ever).

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

97. Unless she is having her period

I have never said it CANNOT be make-up, but there's no reason for people to say it IS make-up.

Some pale fleshy women bruise incredibly easily during their period and the bruises often arise very quickly and are incredibly dark.

My mother would wake up with black bruises on her legs so horrible you'd think she fell out of an airplane, and she didn't even remember where they could have come from.

The reason I am so het up about this black eye thing is because it is unknowable. Bruises are idiosyncratic.

Some women could get a black eye like that from being pushed in the face in a way that would cause no injury or swelling beyond the broken blood vessels under the skin.

It's one way of a thousand ways a real black eye can be like, not the stereotype black-eye against which DUers are measuring it.

If it's fake the make-up artist is a genius for 1) not doing the area over the eye, and 2) continuing the bruise to the other eye that way. It's perfect as a continuation of pressure to the nose of an easy bruiser.

And I don't think and geniuses were involved in this caper.

[ecstatic]

98. 'Oh you're with McCain, you're with the McCain campaign? I'm going to teach you a lesson.'

:eyes: An articulate, dyslexic mugger... with plenty of time on his hands to "carve" a B onto someone's face! :eyes: :eyes:

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/breakingnews/article_212181106.shtml

[deadparrot]

99. Hold the fuck on:

"She said a man armed with a knife demanded her money. She gave it to him and began walking toward her car, which has McCain stickers."

From: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08297/922320-100.stm

Then, according to her twitter:

"Stubbornly searching for a bank of america to avoid ATM fees."

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1023083twitter1.html

If she was driving, how can she twitter? Text messaging requires a certain amount of attention. And if she were walking to the bank, she wouldn't have had a car to walk back to.

[quakerboy]

101. How many youth do you know?

Most of those I know can text message while having a conversation... While maintaining eye contact, without looking at the phone. Texting while driving is nothing.

[sohndrsmith]

103. no, texting while driving is dangerous to the texter and all those around him/her n/t

[quakerboy]

104. Since when has that stopped

the college repubs from doing anything. Or any other 20 somethings either.

[sohndrsmith]

107. Never said stupidity is stopped by anything, hence it's being stupid. : ) n/t

[deadparrot]

112. I'm 21.

And no, I don't text or talk on my cell while driving. I don't know about Pennsylvania state laws, but it could very well be illegal. If you're in a "bad part of town," you don't sit around and text about it.

[quakerboy]

115. You obviously do not know

enough stupid people.

[Codeine]

106. To be fair,

I text and drive all the time. Stop signs and red lights provide plenty of opportunity for a quick text.

The rest of this is pure, unadulterated bullshit, of course.

[deadparrot]

113. Sorry, I don't buy it.

Potential illegality aside, if you feel unsafe in a situation, the first thing you do is NOT whip out your Blackberry and announce that fact to the world via twitter.

[sohndrsmith]

105. what the heck is "Obama mutilation"? This has no relevance to Obama whatsoever n/t

[Ian David]

110. "B" is for "Bob Barr." n/t

[Kahuna]

108. The "black eyes" are also suspicious to me. Having been the recipient..

of several black eyes growing up, I seem to recall swelling which caused the eyes to shut close and blood vessels. Also, I see the black, but where is the blue and red. Fishy. A huge man hit you in the face and did that small about of damage?

[endthewar]

111. I love how everybody is an internet Sherlock Holmes

and plus this has to be one of the easiest accusations to debunk. I bet this girl's family and friends don't believe her. Looks like she tried to smear the Obama campaign using race as a bludgeon but underestimated how much the right-wing blogs and FOX News would try to amplify her story to their benefit.

[OnionPatch]

114. Aside from the obviously self-inflicted B

That black eye is not real. I've had black eyes a handful of times and never were they that black without some swelling. I've never seen a black eye on another person that was that dark without some swelling. If the eye had enough damage to turn it that color, there would definitely be swelling. My prediction is this will turn out to be fake...big time. What a pathetic little liar. Republicans are the most reprehensible people. How do they sleep at night?