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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:24 PM
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ABC news report: 150 people charged with voter fraud since 2002
At first I thought it was going to be a hit piece, but was almost fair.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:26 PM
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1. I believe the majority of those were election judges, etc...
NOT people voting as Mickey Mouse, etc.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:26 PM
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2. I did, too! I sat here wondering where there concern was in 2004.
But they pretty much put the lie to McBush's assertions.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:50 PM
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3. how many
convictions?
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 06:08 PM
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5. 115 convictions.
ABC did correctly point out that the much, much bigger REAL problem, according to voter registration groups, is that one-third of eligible voters are not registered and thus do not vote.
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GDAEx2 Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:51 PM
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4. Wasn't one of them the Coultergeist? n/t
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 06:32 PM
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6. And Ann Coulter Skated on the charge even though she was guiltyguiltyguilty
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 06:43 PM
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7. It's roughly the same problem as people tearing tags off pillows.
DO NOT REMOVE THIS TAG.

How do you plead to the charge of removing your pillow tag?


The only FRAUD is the GOP meme about "voter fraud."
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 06:46 PM
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8. Somebody needs to do a bar chart...
...showing the number of instances of "voter fraud" vs. the number of instances of Puke vote suppression, such as shorting Democratic precincts on voting machines, unfair purges of voters from the registration rolls, unfair Puke challenges of registered voters, Puke voting machines changing votes from the Democratic candidate to the Puke candidate right before the voter's eyes, 'disappeared' absentee ballots, 'disappeared' Democratic votes (for instance, 18,000 in FLA-13 in O6), Puke pamphlets misdirecting voters as to time and place, Puke election officials failing to provide paper ballots (the real kind) where required, Puke groups registering voters then tossing the Democratic registrations, Puke laws passed to suppress the votes of the poor ('photo ID,' etc.), the Puke DOJ conducting baseless, punitive investigations of voter registration drives aimed at poor voters and other Democratic-leaning constituencies, and all the other vile Puke tactics for denying Democrats the right to vote--with an estimate of the number of votes that were suppressed, lost, switched or not counted.

It would look like a anthill next to Mount Everest.

Greg Palast, for instance, did a study of the Puke purges of black voters from the voting rolls, in '04, and estimated one million.

Even half of that would dwarf the 150 instances of "voter fraud." And that's not everybody. I would roughly guess 4-5 million--with serious exit poll discrepancies factored in (e-voting switches)--approximately the number by which Bush supposedly won in 2004. But you could leave that out and still have a chart with a ridiculously high number of votes lost to Puke vote suppression tactics, vs. the minuscule number of "voter fraud" instances.

120 million people voted (the counted votes) in 2004. 150 instances of "voter fraud" is nothing. NOTHING! And some fraud and some mistakes are statistically inevitable. What is NOT inevitable--and what has very likely materially affected the outcomes of many elections--is this massive, consistent, multi-pronged and, in many cases, illegal and criminal, effort by the Republican Party--including using the powers of government--to suppress the Democratic vote, and/or rebellious Republican votes against Bush and Bushwhack candidates. (I think that's where a lot of electronic theft has occurred--in Republican precincts, where it would be less noticeable.)

This fascist thing about "voter fraud" is NUTS. And a bar chart would show just how nuts it is.

And on top of everything else, I think the conviction rate on "voter fraud" cases may be ZERO--or close to zero. It is NOT. A. PROBLEM. It is insignificant. It is nothing. The problem is massive, unamerican, anti-democratic, anti-Constitution, illegal, traitorous, foul, dirty rotten Puke vote suppression and theft on a scale never before seen anywhere except Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia.

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