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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:30 AM
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I think we all need to give Bob Schieffer a hearty round of applause.
This was by far the best moderating job we've seen this year. He asked good, sharp questions, let them talk, and did as well as any man could reasonably do in keeping John McCain in check. His handling of the tenor question forced McCain into an uncomfortable trap re: ACORN and Ayers, and McCain went from cool and on-message to angry and erratic for the rest of the debate.

After Lehrer's impotent "talk to each other" whining, Ifill's hands-off "give me some talking points and I will ask no followups" phoned-in job, and Brokaw's arrogant snippiness, it was looking like this was a disastrous year for debate moderation. I'm glad at least one journalist was able to step up to the plate this year.
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Ramius Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:31 AM
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1. With that false equivilancy question, they're BOTH making viscious attacks? I don't think so
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:35 AM
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9. If he had said, "McCain, you're a douchebag," McCain could have protested the question
and complained about the media ignoring Obama's negativity instead of responding. By asking both candidates to account for their campaigns, he allowed Obama to play above-it-all and claim he's concerned about issues and not attacks, while making McCain's focus on Obama's campaign sound petty and strange. Moreover, the open-ended nature of the question forced McCain to bring up Ayers in an awkward, shoehorned-in manner. He played it right.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:32 AM
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2. He gave McSame the last word on every question but one.
Sorry. Can't do that.:thumbsdown:
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:10 AM
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16. That ticked me off too.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:33 AM
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3. Agreed! 100%!
:applause: Bob Schieffer :applause:
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:33 AM
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4. When it comes to Bob, I'm thinking less applause and more "bite me."
Sorry. I calls 'em the way that I sees 'em.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:04 AM
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14. And when he's done biting you, he can bite me too.
Only Obama's grace kept it from turning into an all-out disaster. BS lost control completely.

Questions were OK, but he did not "moderate" at all.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:34 AM
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5. He had many flaws
but I agree he was by far the best of the 4 moderators.
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DB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:34 AM
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6. Obama made him look better than he actually was.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:34 AM
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7. He let McCain talk all over him & Obama
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 12:35 AM by Desertrose
Maybe it was better than Brokaw & Ifill, but that didn't make him good. I felt he really deferred to McCain or at the very least didn't shut him down when he kept going on & on.

Pissed me off.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:49 AM
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11. I agree. I thought he stunk. He sure didn't "moderate"
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:34 AM
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8. I agree
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 12:37 AM by nam78_two
I thought he was pretty good. I thought the other 3 mods were all really quite bad-relatively speaking ar least Shieffer did a way better job.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:35 AM
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10. I have to agree.
With the exception of letting McCain end on nearly every question, he did a very good job of encouraging REAL DIALOG from the candidates and it allowed Barack Obama to really neutralize a lot of the shit that's been floating out there about him. In the same respect, it gave John McCain more rope from which to fashion himself that noose he'll be wearing on November 4th. At least Barack Obama got the final statement in, which I think was very important. By the end, McCain looked absolutely defeated.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:50 AM
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12. I disagree.
Often, Schieffer allowed McCain to end the discussion without giving Obama a chance for a follow up.

He wasn't terrible, but I felt he could have allowed Obama a chance to respond to some of McCain's charges, since he let McCain do it nearly every time.

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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:59 AM
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13. indeed.
that one was the best. even if mcWATB was whining about democrats being mean.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:09 AM
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15. I agree
I think Schieffer did a decent job of being a fair moderator. I think some were expecting him to go above and beyond and actually call out McCain for acting like an asshole or something. I think his trying to move things back to the planned topics *did* piss McCain off at least once; once, after McCain had gone into spiel of talking points, Schieffer seemed to pretty quickly try to push things back to the actual question and it sounded as if McCain let out an audible sigh (I'm not 100% sure b/c the camera wasn't on McCain when it happened, but I doubt it was Obama doing the sighing...)
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joop Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:42 AM
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17. His questions were spot on
and tried to veer away from the same stuff we've heard a zillion times. For that, I give him props.
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IndyJones Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:43 AM
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18. Agreed. He was the best for sure.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 02:05 AM
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19. None from me, I thought he sucked and was the worst
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 02:06 AM by Raine
of any of the moderators. Schieffer had no control over the debate, he lost it all to McSAME. Scheieffer continually cut Obama off, always deferred to McSAME and he also didn't ask hardly a thing of any substance. The whole first 15 minutes were about Joe the fucking Plumber! :mad:

edit: typo
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 02:08 AM
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20. I agree. While he wasn't perfect, he was IMO the best of the three moderators.
I liked his choice of questions, and he generally did a good job of controlling the balance of exchange.
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Johnny2X2X Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 02:27 AM
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21. Trust me
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 02:27 AM by Johnny2X2X
By letting McCain ramble on he wasn't doing him any favors.

The more McCain talked the more unintelligible he sounded. Obama knew this as well, he realized that McCain could say a couple sound bytes, but when he had to elaborate he would ramble on until you'd forgotten whatever valid point he might have made at the start.

A total tank job by McCain. He was awful and Obama just kept letting him be awful.
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