Todd and Sarah: ""Chosen Vessels of God."

[madfloridian]

When I read stuff like this I get the shivers. It was just like it was in 2002 and early 2003 here in our little fundamentalist/pentecostal corner of the world. Only then it was another chosen vessel...George W. Bush.

The word then was that George was chosen by God to lead us in our pursuit of terrorists in the Middle East. The churches even gave out yard signs that showed support for the war and support for the president. It did not matter that George chose the wrong country to bomb and invade. God chose him.

We personally had neighbors say this to us, even in our own home. They were asked to leave when they began to yell at us when we disagreed.

Some are now calling Sarah Palin "a present-day Esther".

From Sarah Posner's The FundamentaList:

Vessels of God?

Palin's "Chosen Vessels of God."

Just hours before last week's vice-presidential debate, Stephen Strang, founder of the Charisma publishing giant, highlighted an account by an Ohio pastor who claimed to have had a revelation of Palin as Esther. Pastor Mark Arnold, of Life Covenant Church in Monroe, Ohio, approached Todd and Sarah Palin at a campaign stop in Lebanon, Ohio, and made them cry with his prophecy of Palin as Esther.

Arnold claims that God told him to tell Palin, who encountered him in the rope line, that "God wants you to know that you are a present day Esther!" Palin, Arnold says, immediately began to cry. "The news and nay-sayers and criticizers are going to be very hateful toward you," Arnold continued, "and in the days ahead they are going to turn up the heat ... but do not fear." You are a "present day Esther," Arnold told Palin, and God "has chosen you to reign." Then Arnold made Todd Palin cry, too, and McCain shook his hand and gave him a "deep look of understanding." Sure.

"When I got to my car I sat there for quite a long time," Arnold concluded, "knowing the GOD of the Universe had just used me to deliver a message confirming to Sarah and Todd to realize they are truly chosen vessels of God."

More from the pastor's oomments to Todd and Sarah Palin.

The Strang Report

To Sarah:

It was at this moment Sarah Palin reached out for me to help her up, and as I was assisting her to stand, I was now face-to-face with her, and God said, “Open up your mouth and I will fill it.”

Here is what came out:

“God wants you to know that you are a present-day Esther!”

(She immediately began to cry!)

“God wants to tell you that you are chosen for such a time as this!”

“You are called, and chosen to be a leader"

And the words to Todd Palin:

Her husband, Todd, came over, and I told him what I told her. He began to cry.

I emphasized the fact that he was to guard her at this time … and know that “she is God-called and God-anointed.”

“This is a God-thing and your wife is a present-day Esther ... she is for God to use at this time ... she is an Esther ... she is an Esther ... she is an Esther.”

“You will be hated … but stand strong … God has called both of you to stand!”

It is even more chilling now in 2008 than it was in 2002 and 2003. Guard her? What a strange statement. She is the one who is practically inciting to riot when she speaks.

The "chosen ones" idea has just gone way too far, and it is just plain scary.

[mscuedawg]

1. Yup...vessels to be set adrift to those polar ice caps that arent melting ...

...from global warming that doesnt exist....

[MadrasT]

2. OMG. That is terrifying.

[catgirl]

47. Yes, that is terrifying

shivers on the spine terrifying.

[AspenRose]

3. Oh she's chosen, all right

chosen to be a horrible warning

[Flirtus]

39. Ding Ding! Winner!

God does move in mysterious ways, She is Sent as a Plague upon our Peoples.

[no_hypocrisy]

4. Just what we all needed: Adam and Eve "perfected".

[KittyWampus]

5. they are the "Broken Vessels" that lie as shells on the ocean floor, coming and going with the tide

and eventually pounded by the waves on the shoreline into dust.

They are first of all, the discarded, outworn shells from all the vital beings that inhabit the ocean. As refuse, they are ready to be recycled.

[blogslut]

6. If this dude is trying to paint them as the two witnesses from Revelations

I'm not so sure Sarah & Tawd are up for the job requirement.

[NYC_SKP]

7. Vessels of shit, vomit and runny shit, that's what they're vessels of. (eeeew) nt

[riqster]

8. Yep, and the best part is

...since everything is God's will, the Fundagelicals themselves bear no responsibility for any of their earthly actions.

[madfloridian]

18. Good point. Declare it as God's will and anything goes.

Amazing, ain't it?

[riqster]

24. Paul made salvation a lot easier than did Jesus

...I mean, Jesus wanted us to love one another, help each other, blahblahBLAH and that's SOOOO difficult. Far easier to go Paul's route and simply drink a glass of Kool-Aid from a salvation merchant.

[14thColony]

36. "anything goes"

Yes, and it goes even further than that. Those who thwart the will of God are either witting or unwitting instruments of Satan. What constitutes an attempt to thwart God's will in this case could have a rather broad definition. Like maybe supporting Obama.

[jberryhill]

9. She's an Ester?

Figures she'd be an oil refining by-product.

Some of those volatile esters are carcinogenic, aren't they?

And here I thought she was just an inorganic radical.

[lumberjack_jeff]

10. God has a poor track record in choosing vessels.

I find God endorsements to be valuable. I always pick the other one. Works well.

[iamahaingttta]

11. I am SO glad that there isn't REALLY a god.

If there was, I would not want to live on his stupid little planet with all of these terrifyingly delusional humans.

Luckily, the universe is so much weirder, beautiful and more interesting than these deludoids understand. That's how I manage to be able to live among them. They are just so clueless as to be laughable. Well... if they weren't so frightening sometimes. Luckily, I believe they are on their way out...

[JFN1]

12. Religion...ain't it a beautiful thing?

A true believer can twist their personal ambitions and megalomania into "God's will" anytime they want, and sadly, there are plenty of people willing to help them do it. Bill Maher is absolutely right - its a delusion...and we know what happens when delusional people, like George Bush and Sarah Palin, have power.

Frightening.

[Sebastian Doyle]

13. The obvious argument against people like Chimpy and Moosealini being "God annointed"

Why would God choose such FUCKING IDIOTS to do His will on Earth?

You look at your typical Biblical figures.... Abraham....Moses....David....Esther..... pretty much any of the famous ones, and while they had their flaws, none of them were complete IDIOTS. Except maybe Adam & Eve, who took advice from a talking snake, but then, they had nobody else around to compare their intelligence to.

[immoderate]

14. For more religious craziness...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

It's really crazy.

--IMM

[Joe Bacon]

15. They're "vessels of Gawd" IF your Gawd is AYN RAND!

Amazing how Christians talk the Jesus talk but walk the AYN AS IN MINE RAND walk!

[RoadRage]

16. Every time I see a post like this, I just think.. wow, Wright is totally normal

He might have said a few things that got totally blown out of proportion... but at least he's not running around the country screaming "OBAMA IS THE ONE.. PRAISE JESUS... HE'LL BE OUR SAVIOUR". Nope.. he's not doing that at all.. because if he DID, well, we know what conservatives would say to that.

However, if a few white preachers say it about Sarah.. well then by golly - put a check next to her name, it's GOD'S WILL.

[old mark]

17. So Pastor Mark Arnold, from Ohio, was chosen by the God of the Universe

to pass a message to the Palins.

That fucker is crazy and should be locked up and medicated.

mark

[codjh9]

19. I'm an agnostic, but if THEY are 'chosen vessels of God', maybe I should be an atheist.

[Solomon]

66. Extremely well put.

[theothersnippywshrub]

20. How does McCain feel about the fact that God has chosen Palin to reign?

[madfloridian]

22. Sounds like McCain is now relegated to the back seat...

while the Palins take over.

[Shallah Kali]

107. And how does he feel about her supporters openly praying praying for his death?

Theocrats to Pray for McCain's Death
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/3/11483/34706

[Matariki]

21. and God said, "Open up your mouth and I will fill it."

Must be the God of Chaos, because that's what's filling her mouth.

And the sexual innuendo in that statement, Lord, it makes me blush.

[nxylas]

37. Yeah, I'll bet God's not the only one who's said that to her

She was a beauty pageant contestant, after all.

[hootinholler]

43. She was mistaken that was McCane that said that. n/t

[madfloridian]

23. Palin thinks "her faith is a substitute for knowledge, education, and experience,"

More from Posner's FundamentaList:

"I still don't know exactly what she thinks of Muthee or casting out witchcraft. But I've seen enough evidence from the avalanche of news that she knows absolutely nothing about geopolitics, domestic politics, law, or history. From the Gibson interview to the Couric interview, from the news that many evangelicals, charismatic and otherwise, believe that she is anointed, and from her clearly expressed views about performing God's will in politics, I can add it all up. She thinks her faith is a substitute for knowledge, education, and experience, and that it's okay because she's performing God's will and fighting the forces of evil."

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_fundame...

[StreetKnowledge]

68. Faith doesn't make up for intelligence

Can't say much more than the title. Sarah, miss, intelligence is not given to you by God. I believe in God and fighting evil too, but you do realize that religion is the judging of the word of God BY MAN. Which means that entire load is nothing more than just you running your mouth about how God has chosen you, when the reality is that man chose you to work with John McCain. It's as simple as that. God won't save you on Earth. Even most religious people realize that, ma'am.

[Essene]

102. She believes this is about prophesy... (watch this video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrD7U-vHCD8

[cjsmom44]

25. Spooky

THAT is SPOOKY stuff.... yikes....

[KamaAina]

26. Chosen? Present-day Esther?

Sarah?!

She's Jewish!! Who knew?

[imax2268]

27. “Open up your mouth and I will fill it.”

Oh my god...WTF?

[apocalypsehow]

64. I think the old-time Fundies used to call it "the laying on of hands."

Just ask Jessica Hahn.

[Bryn]

28. Esther story is borrowed from mythology of Ishtar, the Babylonian goddess

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar

Ishtar is a goddess of fertility, love, and war.<1> In the Babylonian pantheon, she "was the divine personification of the planet Venus".<2>

Ishtar was above all associated with sexuality: her cult involved sacred prostitution; her holy city Erech was called the "town of the sacred courtesans"; and she herself was the "courtesan of the gods".<2> Ishtar had many lovers; however, as Guirand notes,

woe to him whom Ishtar had honoured! The fickle goddess treated her passing lovers cruelly, and the unhappy wretches usually paid dearly for the favours heaped on them. Animals, enslaved by love, lost their native vigour: they fell into traps laid by men or were domesticated by them. 'Thou has loved the lion, mighty in strength', says the hero Gilgamesh to Ishtar, 'and thou hast dug for him seven and seven pits! Thou hast loved the steed, proud in battle, and destined him for the halter, the goad and the whip.'

Even for the gods Ishtar's love was fatal. In her youth the goddess had loved Tammuz, god of the harvest, and — if one is to believe Gilgamesh — this love caused the death of Tammuz.<2>

Ishtar was the daughter of Sin or Anu.<2> She was particularly worshiped at Nineveh and Arbela (Erbil).<2>

[Bryn]

32. Another reference that Esther was mythological goddess

Book by Acharya S "The Christ Conspiracy, The Greatest Story Ever Sold". Author Acharya S is archaeologist, historian, mythologist, and linguist. She studied Bible in original language of Hebrew and Greek. I belong to her group.

".....Book of Esther is, however, not historical, as "Esther" is a remake of the Goddess and Queen of Heaven Ishtar..."

"...even the Bible story admits that Esther-Ishtar was not the real name of the Elamite-Jewish queen. Her real name was Hadassah. (Esther 2 )"

[onager]

29. The vessel of Gawd is starting to resemble the Exxon Valdez...

n/t

[Vanje]

30. annointed by God? ...or....

Annointed by Nutz!

[nichomachus]

31. I think God really meant

"ester"

Esters are a class of chemical compounds and functional groups. Esters consist of an inorganic or organic acid in which at least one -OH (hydroxyl) group is replaced by an -O-alkyl (alkoxy) group. Some acids that are commonly esterified are carboxylic acids, phosphoric acid, sulfuric acid, nitric acid, and boric acid. Volatile esters, particularly carboxylate esters, often have a pleasant smell and are found in perfumes, essential oils, and pheromones, and give many fruits their scent. Ethyl acetate and methyl acetate are important solvents; fatty acid esters form fat and lipids; phosphoesters form the backbone of DNA molecules; and polyesters are important plastics. Cyclic esters are called lactones. The name "ester" is derived from the German Essig-Äther (literally: vinegar ether), an old name for ethyl acetate. Esters can be synthesized in a condensation reaction between an acid and an alcohol in a reaction known as esterification.

That sounds more like Moosegutter Sally.

[Bake]

33. Those looking for Messiahs are usually disappointed.

Bake

[juno jones]

34. K&R

And another scary article from a poster on DailyKos:



http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/7/165650/170

She is their chosen one, the bride of christ, thus all of the Aimee Semple wardrobe and histronics.

[FatDave]

35. Hey moderate Christians!

If you aren't actively fighting these fucking whackos, you're part of the problem.

[noel711]

38. Hey FAt DAve! How do you know we're not?

Because there are nuts out there that claim the mantle
of 'christian' you all paint us all with the same broad brush.

That's like saying all Americans are crazy right wingers
because of Bush/Palin/McCain.

Or all women are blatant creeps because SArah Palin and Cindy McCain are creeps.
This is bullshit.

You don't know what we progressive Christians are doing out here,
because we're doing what we're supposed to be doing:
feeding the hungry,clothing the naked, taking care of the dying,
and helping those displaced by disasters.

Why do all progressives have to be athiests?
There are many of us who aren't mouthbreathing literalists,
but can read the bible, and know what it really means..

Stop condemning good folks who are living the progressive agenda!

And not all Christians are ignorant fools...
in my family, there are 8 advanced degrees among 3 adults...
speak various languages, and have traveled extensively.

Be careful with your condemnations.

[FatDave]

41. Did I say any of the shit you implied I said?

No.

Did I paint you with a broad brush? No.

The very fact that I referred to "moderate Christians" proves that I know not all Christians are fucking nutjobs.

I said "if" you aren't fighting the whacko Christians, you're part of the problem, and I stand by that. If you let a bunch of fucking moron fundies define what it means to be a Christian, you are partly to blame for your own mischaracterization.

I'm not saying you can't believe whatever the fuck you want to, only that you should do your part to discredit the insane among your ranks, because it will mean a whole fuck of a lot more coming from other Christians than it will from me.

[noel711]

57. With all due respect DAve, I felt judged by you.

AS to discrediting the insane? Try to discredit those hard line right wingers,
they think I'm crazy too.

I'm not defined by the fundies, but sadly too many progressives lump
all christians as alike-
that we're all literalists, fundies, and speak in tongues.And that offends me.
I don't think all progressives are alike.

YOu said that if moderate Christians
aren't fighting the wackos, we're just as guilty.
How do you know how I live?

LIke many others, I have to make a living, but I can change one life at a time.
Why don't you come and follow me around for a week.
I'm one of those crazy women preachers in an urban church.
(Right there should be a clue: many of my male colleagues see me
as unfit for the calling... but I digress)
Every day I'm face to face with those people who have struggled
with the downturn of the economy,
many who've been denied their pensions when Bethlehem steel bottomed out.
Many of those who are illegal immigrants,
many abused by others, many denied any kind of care at all.
Yeah, I work with many of the 'invisible' people that the
mainstream ignores and denies.

And as someone said: you change more lives with love
than with confrontation.

[ladym55]

94. Although this wanders away from the topic ....

THANK YOU for what you are doing. You have chosen a very challenging ministry ... and you most definitely understand what it means to be a Christian.

Pastor Dimbulb and his vision of Sarah has no CLUE what a Christian is. Hint: It's NOT him, not Sarah, not Tawd ...

I find it unfortunate that somehow an entire faith tradition is being represented by a lunatic fringe.

[mojowork_n]

89. There really aren't that many opportunities.

Most of the fundagelical's hang out in their own, suburban and small town mega-churches. Or they go to something like Paster Bob's outback congregation, built to resemble a barn, where they are taught that Patriotism (American Exceptionalism) and God's Plan are one and the same thing.

Most progressive Christian's tend to be members of mainline denominations, or at least belong to congregations that reflect their own beliefs.

[mscuedawg]

45. Thank you for the ray of hope that there is a place

in DU for Christians....

[MilesColtrane]

40. Palin is Esther?

I guess that makes Track, Dy-no-Mite!

[Aviation Pro]

42. If Sarah Pornstar is Esther who's Hammen?

Never fucking mind, these fucking fundamentalists need to be set adrift so they can find their own special moron reserve and they can pray to their false god for manna and heaven.

[Hekate]

86. Anyone in authority who "persecutes" her or gets in her way, that's who.

God, save us from True Believers.

Hekate

[redqueen]

44. That is extremely scary.

Seriously, these kind of people are nuts and should be nowhere NEAR the levers of power.

[madfloridian]

58. Yes, scary, and way too much of it lately.

Overwhelming.

[childslibrarian]

46. Chosen vessels of the ego is more like it

When you think you are "special" and "chosen" that's a big hint..there's a problem.

[Generic Other]

48. god needs a toilet bowl?

honestly!

[GoddessOfGuinness]

49. Are you the Keymaster?

[symbolman]

50. Every time she opens her big fat mouth

I'm more convinced that she is a "Siren" (mythology), but more like the siren on a Police Car..

She's Diana, The Huntress..

All these symbols are just basic psyops routines foisted on the public when needed by those who know that the same battles are fought over and over again, and the people ALWAYS LOSE.

[ironrooster]

51. Oh mannn!

I thought she was the Whore of Babylon - you bethcha!

[TygrBright]

52. Naaah... She's more yer Jael type. You know, chick that nailed a guy's head to the floor. n/t

[wizstars]

53. God's aim can't be that lousy...

"...George chose the wrong country to bomb and invade. God chose him."

[biglefthander]

54. Imagine the Palin's disappointment...

....when Nov. 4 rolls around and they find out their "God" was wrong. An actual existential crisis could break out right then and there. Hehehehe!

Enough arrogant, ignorant, Bible-pounding, flag-sucking, fascist nitwits. If God is for W. and Palin, then I'm for the Devil.

[crazy_vanilla]

55. shocking

How delusional are these people???? Blinded by their dreams of grandeur and fame they put words into the mouth of God. I am embarrassed for them. Actually, I pity them.

If she believes she is on a mission from God, she needs to stop the verbal diarrhea, overt sexuality and flirting, and her endless lying, and the blind ME ME ME ME ME ambition.

[OwnedByFerrets]

56. ....

"It did not matter that George chose the wrong country to bomb and invade." Is there a RIGHT country to bomb, invade and occupy?

And yes, they are scary

[Poseidan]

59. best thing about religious people?

The look on their faces when they're proven wrong.

Prayer is a placebo, intended to make people feel they have control over things they have no control over.

[LiberalLovinLug]

105. They are never wrong

If some prophecy does not come to pass, it is the Devil's doing, or it is God's will that things don't go the prophets way. Which is an odd kind of logic.

In the first excuse they are claiming that the Devil can override a Godly prediction, and the latter reason means that God has decided that he changed his mind at the last minute which raises doubts about the Christian claim that God has already preordained all events. As well it says that after God apparently "spoke" to some bible thumper and told him one thing, He then sees no problem with backstabbing one of his own and doing the opposite.

But still they are never wrong. They refuse to think about these kinds of logistics. Remember Hal Lindsey and "The Late Great Planet Earth"? Came out in the 70's predicting the Second Coming would happen in the 80's or something like that. For fundies, we are perpetually in the 'end times'. So the more war, famine, disease, climate change etc.. the happier they are.

I grew up in such a house, I know what I am talking about.

[noiretextatique]

60. hey arnold: that's not God who's talking to you

[TheCentepedeShoes]

61. I feel like we are entering

the Dark Ages.

[madfloridian]

63. It does have that feel to it.

Like going backwards. No birth control, no legal abortions, no evolution teaching.

[NoodleyAppendage]

62. Great. So, when I go on a road trip with Palin & Tawd I can piss in them. n/t

J

[Cha]

65. Those aren't the vessels I think of when sarah and todd palin

are brought up..more like the Crapper.

[StreetKnowledge]

67. Good Grief

"It was at this moment Sarah Palin reached out for me to help her up, and as I was assisting her to stand, I was now face-to-face with her, and God said, “Open up your mouth and I will fill it.”

Here is what came out:

“God wants you to know that you are a present-day Esther!”

(She immediately began to cry!)

“God wants to tell you that you are chosen for such a time as this!”

“You are called, and chosen to be a leader"

Good grief, way to stroke an ego already bigger than her state.

The Christian righties. As stupid as ever, it seems, even when a black man with "Hussein" for a middle name is about to become President. They just don't get the message very quick, do they?

[Imagevision]

69. It's sick/gross that Palin is McBush;s heartbeat away to being the prez should they win?

especially after seeing that witch video thing in church. I recall Bush telling us he was doing God's work in Iraq \
... nutzo!

[Oak2004]

70. Mind a different point of view on this scary nonsense?

(taking political hat off and putting on mystic hat)

One aspect of my life that I don't usually consider suitable for internet discussion is that I'm a mystic (and indeed, have students). One of the things understood by every established mystical lineage, regardless of religion, is that "mystical insight" can be extremely deceptive.

There's a lot of utter trash, even dangerous trash, that will cross through a human's mind when he or she is engaged in religious practice. Such delusions have led to such craziness as the Children's Crusade, more than a few destructive cults, a heaping helping of religious wars, as well as who knows how many acts of individual self-destruction. It's essential that anything appearing to be divine insight be very carefully examined. One method is, simply, reason. if the insight is something that is testable in the material world -- essentially, if you can apply science to it -- and it flunks the test, it's nonsense.

Another method is to look at whether it furthers an individual's ego, or whether it's about transcending ego. The real thing does not leave its recipient in awe at how important he or she is: it leaves the recipient in awe of the ultimate, and so certain he or she is not special that he or she is unlikely to speak of it, and if it is spoken about, he or she will resist using the word "I" (as in "I experienced" "I saw", etc -- because "I" has nothing to do with it). Think about it: if you were in the presence of the ultimate force of the Universe (theists may insert the deity of their choice, atheists the LHC ), would you be running around afterward talking about how wonderful you were?

The problem with Pentecostalism and the various Charismatic movements is that they are chock full of attempted mysticism (i.e., seeking direct experience of the divine) with virtually no understanding of the required discipline and nothing in place to prevent self-delusion. They reject science and reason, so that's out. And they are very comfortable indeed with "center of the universe" type claims, such as made by Rev. Arnold, and they fail to apply other methods of evaluating apparent insight. I have little doubt that there are very sincere Pentecostals; I don't even rule out that among them are a few people who've resisted self-delusion. But overall they look very deluded to me, recklessly so, and I don't say that often about another religion.

(removing mystic hat and putting political hat back on)

[catlady]

93. That was absolutely fascinating!

I haven't thought about this issue in that exact way before... You explained the hows and whys of the dangers very very well. Not to mention, I appreciate your complete non-judgemental tone. Yours is one of the most concise and well thought out descriptions of the problem in many churches/religions I have found. Fantastic insight! You have given me much to ponder.. Thanks!

[Scurrilous]

71. Sorry lady..

...there already is a present-day Esther.

[Barbara2423]

72. Christians to not incite hate and division

Proverbs 10:10, He who winks with the eye causes trouble, But a prating fool will fall.

[whistle]

73. Right, God must be a republican because he choose Dubya also

[AnnieBW]

74. Oh. My. Goddess...

If this crazy woman wins, I am SO leaving the U.S. before she brings in her pastor to start hunting down witches!

[madfloridian]

77. It's pathetic, isn't it?

And McCain seems so proud of what he did.

[Doremus]

75. She can't be. Esther was "respectful and humble"

According to the site I look at, Palin couldn't possibly be the new Esther:

"She shows us that remaining respectful and humble even in difficult if not humanly impossible circumstances often set us up to be the vessel of untold blessing for both ourselves and others. We would do well to emulate her godly attitudes in our difficult positions. Not once is there a complaint or bad attitude exposed in the writing."

[realitythink]

76. Crazy Fuckers

Plain and simple. That guy is crazy and the Todd and Sarah are even crazier.

Let's hope after Nov. 4 they are gone from all of our lives forever. They are dangerous lunatics.

[Dems4me]

78. I am a Christian and when I read such things, it scares me to death...

I have found very little that I would consider apparently Christian about Sarah Palin.
A Godly person would not incite hatred and violence against another human being.
She openly and publicly lies about her opponents to get elected.
She put her family (her children) last in her pursuit of power. Which for a Christian
or any one else with a bit of integrity is considered a really bad thing.
Her child, that is pregnant, not only had to tell her parents of her plight, she was
forced to let the whole world into her trouble. How very traumatic for kid. I can't imagine putting my child
through such public humiliations as that. AND dragging those poor little kids
all over the place while she plays power pig.
The females that have ran for President in the past have atleast waited til their
children were grown to run for office.
This isn't like she just a typical working mom. This was life altering for 5 kids.
Call me wrong...But as a Mother...My kids would have came first.

[madfloridian]

79. I agree. It angered me that Palin made her daughter's pregnancy

public in such a nonpersonal way.

[bertman]

80. Thanks for posting this Madflo. Reminds me of the story about Billy Graham being a Democrat but not

saying it publicly during the '00 and '04 elections. Of course, sonny boy Franklin is a Republican--big time reich-winger.

I always wondered how Billy Graham could have lived with himself when he saw what Bush was doing "at God's bidding".

[Zookeeper]

81. Well, that explains her incredible arrogance. n/t

[madfloridian]

91. Yes, it is easy to be arrogant when you are the "chosen" ones.

[Reterr]

82. These people are so CREEPY

Dear Barack, Joe, Dems and American voters please make them go away . I wish they would lose the election by 50 or 60%. Creepy, crazy nuts.

[NoSheep]

83. OHFG (oh-her-fucking-gaul)

[fujiyama]

84. Vessels from God?

What are they? Fucking pod people? It sounds like they're heaven's gate members?

Then again their church sounds close enough. And their pastor reminds of the creepy eyes guy. They've all drunk the kool aid. That's for sure.

[TheKentuckian]

85. Hyper-Insanity

These folks are delusional on another level.

[L. Coyote]

87. This is what is wrong with the economy!! Someone give this asshat a real job PLEASE!

If all the bloodsucking preachers were doing productive work 40 hours a week, it would lift the GNP immensely.

[jwirr]

88. God protect us from Your followers. I am a liberal Christian and I am

very afraid of the fundies and their personal messages given outside of the Biblical message. Their true god is themselves since that is who they are trusting.

[madfloridian]

90. I join you in that prayer.

I was raised in the Southern Baptist church, so were my children. They do scare me now. The head of the seminary teaches that deliberate childlessness is a sin and defies God's will

Three guesses how Al Mohler feels about birth control methods.

[GreenPartyVoter]

92. She's an adultress and he's a seccessionist, but hey they are _ours_ so therefore

they are "god-called".

The hypocrisy is stunning, is it not?

[ladym55]

95. Kind of takes your breath away, doesn't it?

At least it does for me.

[olegramps]

96. A Real Threat

What makes the Palins a real threat is that they actually believe this nonsense. They must be defeated at all cost and the Republican Party that has been hijacked by the Christian Nitwit Fundamentalists must be either totally reinvented or destroyed. They are the foremost threat to the Republic, far overshadowing any Islamic threat, since they are determined to rewrite the Constitution and transform our government into a theocracy.

[olegramps]

98. Remember that they want your tax dollars to indoctrinate their brats

Know as vouchers, it is just a Trojan Horse to use our tax dollars to fund their indoctrination mills. Sarah Palin is a perfect example of how a young mind can be destroyed. As Hitler observed give me your child until he is twelve and he will be mine for life. Out of curiosity I attended two Pentecostal services. It was truly an amazing event. I do believe that many of their members are deranged, babbling on in a totally incoherent manner as if they were having some kind of fit. One minister explained to me that only those who have spoken in tongues or those that have been blessed to interpret them can be saved upon the Second Coming which would most likely occur in his lifetime. All others are condemned to Hell for all eternity. I shudder to think that these people have actually gained power and like Bush firmly believe that they are carrying out God's will. This same minister said we have been commanded by Jesus that "thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in heaven" and therefore it is our duty to establish a Christian government governed by Christians for Christians.

[defendandprotect]

97. Use the "god" word in America and you're in ---

When you don't want to think for yourself, adopt a "god" to do your thinking for you --

[CowboyHeyHey]

99. If God wanted to kill wolves from the air

he'd use thunderbolts. He only needs humans to form armies and start holy wars. Get your message straight, fundies.

[Overseas]

100. Kicking it again. Very scary. Christian Taliban on the march. //

[Essene]

101. She has explicitly indicated she believes she knows god's will and that she's doing his works

It is really creepy

[happygoluckytoyou]

103. so is sarah the VESSEL with the PESTLE, or the VENUS with a PENIS ?

FROM THE COURT JESTER

: Yes. But you don't want the vessel with the pestle, you want the chalice from the palace!

[felinetta]

104. Just one question: What god, whose god?

They all claim an evil, small-minded, judgmental god like themselves. Who needs that god?

[EnviroBat]

106. If they are vessles, I'd like to open the tops and take a shit in them.

These people need to be stopped.

[Fire Walk With Me]

108. Technically, we're all chosen vessels of God.

So nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah.

[gtar100]

109. So all these people enamored with Palin, are they counting on McCain to die??

Is that their secret prayer... or plan? Could they be any less subtle?

If by hook or by crook they get to the White House, McCain surely better be watching his back, his food, and the stairs he walks. He's nothing but a stepping stone for these nuts.

[ddeclue]

110. If they are God's "vessels" they must be his bed pans...