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darius15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 10:45 AM
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KKKarl criticizes McCain's strategy, says Obama will win election based on the electoral college


Appearing on Fox News Sunday, Karl Rove criticized the McCain campaign for its handling of several strategic operations of the campaign.

Asked about the candidate's decision to shut down its Michigan operations, Rove, who serves informally as an adviser to McCain, seemed perplexed that the campaign did it with such apparent flair.

"I don't know, I don't know," said Rove. "And not only that, but it set off a spat of warfare inside the Michigan Republican Party with the former national committee man sending a letter to Sarah Palin saying 'please contest the state,' and leaking that to the members of the state central committee which guaranteed it would be in the hands of the press."

Later in the program, Rove was quizzed about a Washington Post piece that contained a quote from a McCain aide saying the campaign wanted to "turn the page" on the economic crisis and start going after Obama on character traits. Rove didn't dismiss the idea, arguing that it needed to be accompanied with a positive economic message that voters could latch onto. But he was, once more, at odds to explain why McCain would talk about it publicly.

"Again I wonder about that. Some of the best strategies are the strategies you don't call attention to," he said. "For example, right now Obama is running a television ad in battleground states where he basically calls government run health care an extreme and tries to position himself as somebody... You don't see them out there calling attention to it... They simply let the tactic play out."

Separately, in a post on his website, Rove projected that if the election were held today, Obama would get at least 273 electoral votes and become the next president of the United States. The architect of George W. Bush's two presidential campaigns attributed the Democratic nominee's rise to the current economic woes and cautioned that landscape is fluid. But, he added:

"39 new state polls released in the first three days of October have given Barack Obama his first lead over the magic number of 270 since mid-July. Minnesota (10 EV) and New Hampshire (4 EV) both moved from toss-up to Obama, giving him 273 electoral votes to McCain's 163, with 102 votes remaining as a toss-up."


"If the election were held today, Obama would win every state John Kerry won in 2004, while adding New Mexico (5 EV), Iowa (7 EV), and Colorado (9 EV) to his coalition. Remember, though, that these state polls are a lagging indicator and most do not include any surveying done after the vice-presidential debate on Thursday night."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/05/rove-criticizes-mccains-h_n_131994.html

It looks like Republicans are shitting in their pants. I have a feeling I am going to remember the next month for a long, long time.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 10:48 AM
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1. Interesting coming from him. nm
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 10:48 AM
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2. Karl has no problem with McCain's strategy--he thinks it'll work.
His brand is about to be fucking destroyed and he knows it.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 11:03 AM
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7. No, it is destroyed; Rove destroyed it; and everyone, with the possible exception of McCain-Palin,
knows it. That is Rove's little problem these days.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 11:06 AM
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10. Who could have watched Obama's strategy during the winner takes the state primaries and not have
gotten it? For that matter, who could be lusting for the Presidency for as many years as McCain has and not have gotten it? Only very dense folk. Folk who graduate 5th from the bottom in a class of 900 and the kind of folk people like that pick to run their campaigns, that's who.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 10:49 AM
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3. Looks like KKKarl is setting up McCain's defeat and trying to keep his ice princess
alive and well for another day.
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randome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 10:52 AM
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4. Rove Knows Obama Will Win
That's why he is much more publicly visible these days. He probably doesn't need the money but he wants something to do.

I'm amazed at how many people think Rove was a genius. He was always just another hard-scrabble punk who took advantage of far too many opportunities afforded him by Democrats.

There is no conspiracy. Obama will win. I'm not being overly optimistic when I say that. That's truly how I see things shaping up.
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Stagecoach Donating Member (468 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 10:55 AM
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5. Also
Keep in mind Rove is still best buds with GWB and he probably doesn't appreciate the way the McCain campaign has been trying to throw Bush under the bus, which in turn throws Rove under the bus, as they try to distance themselves from the Bush administration.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 11:00 AM
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6. The GOP hates Gramps, almost as much as we do. There are a few voters left who
don't really like Gramps but want to see Obama lose.

But, really, Palin and Cindy are the only two people in this country who really WANT gramps to win.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 11:03 AM
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8. Karl's conceding the race?
Buh-bye, Sarah.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 11:04 AM
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9. He also knows how to play the expectations game... caution.
Declaring an early victory for obama... and the sense that it's inevitable... could hurt obama.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 11:07 AM
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11. Americans are fed up with negative politics, so gammpy
go for it.

You and your Dubya in a dress are gonna tank with negative ads.

Obama has the correct ear for politics, the correct message and the correct temperament.

Even KKKarl sees McSame-Sarah Six Pack circling the drain.

We just need to hold on for one month!
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