So, how big will Obama's coattails be? Mitch McConnell would be SWEET.

[Lochloosa]

McConnell tied in independent poll
By Michael O’Brien
Posted: 09/29/08 06:39 PM
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is locked in a virtual dead heat with Democratic challenger Bruce Lunsford, according to a new poll.


McConnell drew 45 percent to Lunsford’s 44 percent in a Louisville Courier-Journal poll released this past weekend. The poll, conducted Sept. 22-25, has a 3.7 percent margin of error.


Lunsford trailed McConnell by three in a SurveyUSA poll released last week, with the influential Kentucky Republican garnering 49 percent of the vote. A McConnell poll earlier this month showed him up 52-35.


Democrats have sought to knock off the Republican leader this fall, mirroring when John Thune (R) defeated Democratic Senate Leader Tom Daschle in South Dakota’s 2004 Senate race.

http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/mcconnell-tied-in-independent-poll-2008-09-29.html

[Davis_X_Machina]

1. Obama will have no coat-tails...

...and in fact will start dropping down the tracking polls. In fact, by Sunday, he'll be fifth, behind McCain, Paul, Nader, and McKinney, as irate Democrats start to punish Obama for voting for the bailout.

Unless, of course, all the principled statements of opposition we've been treated to this week are swept away, in a burst of team spirit.

[Lochloosa]

3. ...

:rofl:

[GodlessBiker]

4. We're electing a president, not a saint. He's not going to be right on every issue.

[Davis_X_Machina]

6. This is...

...the worst bill of all time. It's the thin end of the Facist wedge. It's not 'just another bill'.

Obama must be punished at the polls -- or else it was possible to cast a principled vote for the bailout after all.

Which I've been told repeatedly was impossible.

[Curtland1015]

7. Worst of all time? Really?

[high density]

8. The two options were this bill or doing nothing

Obama and everybody else realizes this bill is not perfect, nor is it anywhere near a complete fix. That is why we need him as president so he can fix the underlying things that are plaguing us. It will be nice to have leadership that doesn't put us in these situations to begin with.

You can go watch C-SPAN and wank off to a Kucinich speech for all I care, but this is a forum for electing Barack Obama. Get on board or leave.

[Lochloosa]

10. There really is no option.

[GodlessBiker]

9. You don't think the Patriot Act was worse? I do.

[kevinds13]

11. Worst bill of all time?

:rofl:

Patriot Act, Alien and Sedition Act, Jim Crow Laws, Helms Burton Act, Lincoln's suspension of habeus corpus, the imposition of martial law to break strikes multiple times from 1880-1910, Truman passing a law to seize striking steel mills during the Korean War, Landrum Griffin Act...

I could go on, but seriously?

Raising the FDIC coverage for average American's, only $250 of the $700 is available for use without congressional approval, none of the money companies receive can be used for executive pay...only for stabilizing their assets, governmental participation in ownership (a way to recoup funds), risk based premiums insurance program, and the creation of an oversight board.

How is that fascism? If anything, its moving left of liberal capitalism.

While I do think there are things wrong with the bill....
-no governmental coverage of banks: will they continue to loan $?
-oversight board is led by the people who fucked it up in the first place

....they had to do something. And as Obama has said, this is step 1.

So if you plan on punishing him at the polls, I guess you won't get to see steps 2 through thousands. He's outlined quite a few already that are great, democratic, and populistic.

-Windfall profits tax to pay for $1,000 tax credit to families of 4 or more.
-$50 Billion dollar relief payment to prevent states from canceling health services in order to maintain a balanced budget (which is more important at the state level).
-Permanently increase the FDIC insurance level (though he has not said to what amount).
-$500 dollar credit to small businesses to help them pay both sides of the payroll tax.
-Sign the Employee Free Choice Act into law.
-Reverse NLRB decisions that wrongly classified thousands as "supervisors" in an attempt to prevent having to protect them under federal law.
-Raise the minimum wage
-Universal Mortgage Tax Credit for those making under $50,000
-Sponsor (which he is already doing) the STOP FRAUD Act...the first in US history to define mortgage fraud and allow for prosecutions.
-Create a loan disclosure board
-Improve the credit card rating system



I mean, lets punish him so all the things we believe in (and he does to, obviously) can go to waste as we get our new President McSame to pass more deregulation law.

The bill may suck, you may hate it, but whether you will admit it or not, national polls have showed that while the majority believe it is horrible that we're bailing out the fat cats, the majority also believes it is necessary to stabilize the economy.




Pick your poison.

[bigscott]

2. i would love seeing that POS lose

he is a lunatic

[dipsydoodle]

5. Thought you meant

he'd wear a white clawhammer dress suit in which case dreads would be really cool too..

[iceman66]

12. One of the ones I'd most like to see sent packing,

along with Norm Coleman!