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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:49 PM
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SO now they want to get violent and start beating up on Women,huh?
Just exactly what are we going to do with out little Hitler Youth friends?

This is beginning to get ugly folks. As I said in an earlier post this week, it is becoming apparent that some of these freaks have decided they are simply not willing to co-exist peacefully with ANYONE who is not a robotic piece of waste like them.

This is getting old.

It's Getting REAL old.

And I guess the reason I am boiling over is because I have such a problem with males striking women. You don't DO that. EVER. There is no discussion. If you think there needs to be you need to have your ass put int he pavement for even THINKING there is an argument.

As for those who are wishing and hoping that somehow this little bitch will be arrested and charged, I am sorry but I have doubts that will happen.

Their leaders appear to be above the law, and increasingly, so do they.

Whether it is the truth or not we are constantly having it shoved on our faces that as long as you support "Great Leader", you can pretty much do whatever you want, whenever you want.

Where does it stop?

At what point do we have assume we are on our own?

Perhaps I should be careful with my comments, but if there were any way I could get a message to that little "Doug From Upland Wannabe Hitler youth", it would be this.

You seem to be under the illusion you can do whatever you want without fear of consequences.

You are WRONG.

I hope for your sake you don't keep pressing the issue and find out just how wrong you are.

The best thing that could happen to this waste of space is to get arrested and get sent down to Pier 57. Perhaps the people there could educate him in a little humility.

Otherwise one day he might cross the wrong path, and the people who refuse to do their job might not be there to keep him above the law.

Yes, this is harsh talk. But I am getting tired of these people thinking they can do whatever they want. That they can carry out acts of violence just because someone does not agree with their political ideology.

Most of us would never seek such remedy as a first response to a disagreement.

At the same time, I am becoming VERY tired of having to fear for my safety just because I don't support "Great Leader." VERY tired of it.

And I DO hold the philosophy that if you attack me and I am given no choice, I AM going to defend myself.

The Taylor Bickford, Prickford, Punk-Ass, or whatever the fuck this punk's name is, these little Hitler Youth need to understand something.

At some point, if we have no other remedy, and there is no other choice we WILL fight back.

At least for some of us, we will NOT just sit there and take it.

These people are making a fatal miscalculation.

This is NOT Nazi Germany.

And if such a country is what they wish to live in, they had better be prepared to accept that they will have to overcome US to get it.

Who knows, maybe they will get what they want, but if that is the case, I can assure them that the price tag is going to be so high for them that the end result won't be worth the cost.

Delete this if you must Mods.

I am absolutely disgusted.

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Joylaughter Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:52 PM
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1. If someone hits me
I'll defend myself. Even if its a woman hitting me. Of course I am against all violence but in the year 2004 no one can make a serious argument that women are the weaker sex.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:59 PM
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4. Did you see anything in my post promoting such an idea?
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 05:03 PM by TheWatcher
I didn't think so.

Have whatever philosophy you want, but don't bring that shit around me.

I was taught by my Father to always respect women, and he put a strong emphasis on this.

Sorry to hear you don't feel the same.

I hope for your sake someone like me isn't around when you attempt to put your philosophy into practice.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:42 PM
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27. Did you see the video?
She in no way attacked the little Nazi. He went out of his way to get to her, throw her down, and kick her. He was NOT "defending" himself or anyone else. They have security at these things - the little brownshirts could have let the security guards remove the disruptors. But NOOOOO, he's a MAN!!! What an asshole!
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:54 PM
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2. Bravo
I especially like the part about never, ever hitting a woman, ever, never. Thanks from all women here!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:08 PM
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13. Don't say thanks for me...
Women who want equality and then play upon others moral code and belief that 'women are the weaker sex' bug me.

Either we want to be equal or we don't...can't have it both ways.

BTW, I don't condone violence. But if a woman attacks a man, I wouldn't blame him for striking back.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:14 PM
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16. I will say it again. I NEVER SAID
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 05:18 PM by TheWatcher
Or even gave a hint of the idea that women are the "weaker sex."

Don't you DARE put ideas or philosphies in my mouth that are not there and that do not exist.

Do not pretend that you know what my beliefs are by assuming.

You are assuming WRONG.

Do not apply labels that do not exist.

You have no clue about what my moral code is if you assume that I believe this "weaker sex" nonsense.

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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:17 PM
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17. Check my post..
it was to AnninLA not you!!

All I asked was that they not give a blanket response for all of us women on DU...it's not the 1950's, I can have my own opinion.

And my opinion was that I don't believe women who want equality can then go attack men and cry 'beast' when men strike back.

What the hell does that have to do with YOUR POST?
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:20 PM
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18. If it was not directed at me then I apologize.
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 05:22 PM by TheWatcher
I read that as an assumption that I beleive women are "the weaker sex" because of the philosphy I have about violence towards women.

If my reading was incorrect, then you have my full apology and retraction for misreading your intentions.

Things are a bit tense around here today.

I think many of us are getting tired and weary after a week of this bullying, chest-thumping, vile cabal slathering all over themselves.

November CANNOT come soon enough
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:24 PM
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21. I agree with your post, I think
in that violence is not the correct means to showcase an opinion.

And I don't believe violence is good no matter what.

I appreciate that you would never strike a woman no matter what.
I hope no woman ever puts you in that position. It is my belief that if she were to strike you, in a world where she is an equal partner, you would have every right to strike back.

I hope you understand that my position is that women should not be using violence either, it lessens our credibility and makes us look just as animalistic as those we are so violently opposing. (IMO)



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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:33 PM
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23. I respect your position Debi
And I do see where you have a point, even if it is at odds with what I beleive and what I was taught.

I do beleive that violonce is NOT the answer or remedy to disuptes and disagreements.

But if you are attacked and must defend yourself, that is a different matter.

It is a fine line indeed.

I meant no offense, my friend, I really didn't.

It's just that these little Hitler youth REALLY push my buttons.

Things are getting out of control in this country, and it is a very fearful situation indeed.

I think we can agree no matter what our philosphies, we are united in the beleif that these people must be STOPPED.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:52 PM
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32. I think you're talking about a different subject than the thread
You're talking about your general ideas whereas this thread is about a rant over the guy who pulled a woman to the ground, kicked her a couple of times and then denied doing it, all on national TV.

The woman in question was compeletely non-violent, so it's not the same as the subject about which you are talking.

Lick Laura's Bush - Drop Bush Not Bombs! - FUCK BUSH
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:58 PM
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33. You have a valid point
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 06:00 PM by skygazer
However, it's a point used by many a man who beats up his wife - "well, she hit me first" - and so they are both booked on domestic assault charges.

The difference is most men ARE stronger than most women and when a woman attacks a man, chances are he can simply walk away from it. Most women when attacked are simply going to get the crap knocked out of them.

Equality doesn't mean being the same as a man - it means having the same opportunities and receiving the same pay for equal work. It doesn't mean that we think the sexes are perfectly matched in a fist fight.

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renotyme Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:59 PM
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3. a face full of mace and a kick to the crotch
that little freak better not fuck with this pissed off bitch!
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:01 PM
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5. The best thing for his dumb ass to do is get on the first plane home.
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 05:02 PM by TheWatcher
His face has been all over TV.

There is no WAY that kid is safe.

But then again, he doesn't deserve to be.

There is NO WAY someone should get away with an assault like that.

And on LIVE TV.

Disgraceful.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:01 PM
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6. GOPers smashed the front window of the State College PA DEM HQs
Two nights ago, with somebody actually in the HQs at the time. My wife told me she saw it in the news out there.

They are out of fucking control. I'd be on the lookout after November 2, either way it works, if I wasn't in NYC. They are aggressive and need to be slapped down if they step.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:06 PM
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9. No matter what the outcome of the election is,
they're going to be out of control. If they win, they're pretty much going to do what they want and it's going to get real ugly. If they lose, they're going to be very unhappy and even more violent and power-hungy in their refusal to accept any defeat, and it's going to get REAL REAL ugly. Either way, we're screwed.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:09 PM
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15. We are only screwed if we LET ourselves be.
Don't give up, my friend.

We must not be afraid to fight back.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:08 PM
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14. When did this happen?
I did not even hear about this.

Dear God WHAT is going on in this country.

Why don't they just be honest with us and tell us we are living under two different sets of rules for everyone.

Conservative Busbot- Above The Law
Everyone Else- No Available Legal Remedy or Rights.

Is that what it is coming to?

I always wondered what was going to happen if they started pushing their shit too far.

I am getting the dreadful feeling we are getting close to finding out.

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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:37 PM
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36. Two nights ago...the night of the Schwartzenegger embarrassment
n/t
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:01 PM
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7. Any man who strikes a woman...
Is a coward.

Any man who strikes this woman is in traction.

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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:20 PM
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19. Any person who strikes another person is an idiot
and their actions prove that they cannot come to a reasonable conclusion in their differences.

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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:35 PM
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24. If you strike me first...
Then call me an idiot, 'cause I'm hitting back.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:04 PM
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8. "Compassionate Conservatism" in action!
I know talking about guns is very sensitive on DU, but I live in a conceal carry permit state. They try anything with me where I feel my life is in danger and they'll be sorry.
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lasttrip Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:07 PM
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10. this coward must be prosecuted
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 05:09 PM by lasttrip
why didnt they haul him away??
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wwbarnes Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:08 PM
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11. "Start?"
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:08 PM
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12. Has anyone heard about possible charges being filed?
The RNC people would like to sweep it under the rug, so they probably tried to deal: "Listen, it you don't press charges for assault, we'll not press charges on trespass."

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:22 PM
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20. they have always beatin up women
one way or another
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:28 PM
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22. I find it interesting
that they have the 'Wives seats' because congressional Reps. wives are not allowed on the floor.

1st presumption is that no Rep.s are women.
2nd that the little ladies don't have their own opinions.


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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:36 PM
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26. look at laura, they dont, they defer n/t
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 06:11 PM
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35. Where do the female Reps.' husbands sit?
Do they sit in the wives seats (and try to hook up with them for a quickie); do they get to sit on the floor; or do they just not bother accompanying their wives?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:35 PM
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25. Can someone point me to what this is talking about?
My head is exploding with this Nazi thugfest and I must have missed something.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:49 PM
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30. Check out this thread
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:51 PM
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31. Thanks Cronus
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:48 PM
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28. Our troops, daily, are killing women and children
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 05:50 PM by Marianne
our troops, including the air force, are dropping bombs on anything they see fit as a pre-emptive attack based upon a suspicion that some insurgents are housed in a particular place. So they say. As a consequence, women and children are being killed. KILLED. Not kicked, but KILLED.

This is what is enabling these cowards to kick a woman who has been downed.

I saw that guy Taylor Durden as I was watching the protests on C-Span. At one point a guy was interviewed by someone, I know not who, who was in the group of Bush supporters as a conterattack on the protestors. The guy spouted the usual puke about the Repbublican party and why we cannot all get along and stating that he saw a lot of hate in the protests--behind him was a smirking young brat of a young man, who was just smirking at every comment this puke uttered to the camera.--I recognize him as Taylor Durden. I wish I would have captured that if I knew how.

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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:48 PM
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29. I for one am getting tired of hearing that Laura Bush is
the most admired women in that party, spare me, please don't talk for me you media jackels. If anything, I have more respect for her husband and that is not saying much...

She has put women back a good thirty years and between the both of them have added to the outlash of anger against any women who dares to think for themselves, sans they call em Liberals etc.

This morning I watched the interaction of both the prez and his little lady, my God, didn't anyone see what I did? She tried in vain to catch this idiots attention, he ignored her, looking everywhere but at her.

She gently patted his back, he again turned from her, the hurt look on her face says volumes to me. She is a nothing more than his little sidekick, to be brought out and pranced around when it might benefit him. If anyone thinks she is wholeheartedly happy with this arrangement, they are sadly deluding themselves..

She will continue to tow the line, and conserv men all around will praise this wonderous old time tradition of having the little women know her place...and vote for her wonderful hubby how keeps her so well heeled..

If anyone deserves my admiration, it is surely not her...

Teresa, doesn't let em walk all over her, it didn't hurt Hillary, it only scares those who cannot handle women being more intelligent than they are. You will always have such ignorant backwards mentalities, it is their problem not mine...

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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:59 PM
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34. why should she be hurt?
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 06:05 PM by Marianne
She willingly has consented to be with the idiot for thirty five years. By now if she was hurt, she should have dropped him for he married her as a prop to his campaign. Either she enjoys being hurt, or she enjoys sponging off the Bush money. She would have been a nothing without the Bush name,and as it is, she was a nothing for thirty years and has not done a damn thing as first lady for the past three and half years and that is typical of her laziness and consent to sponging off the Bush family money.

She has the nerve to tell us today, in some interview which I cannot remember which, that we do not see the soft side of her husband. She sure did, and that was his money. She sure did see the advantages of marrying into the Bush money, that is for sure. Her two daughters are as dumb as rocks in spite of their education, which she touted as "distinguished college careers", as,rich, priveledged, classless and irresponsible, law breaking partying sops--and she and they, sits back and enjoys the fame and the money, and has done so for the past thirty years.
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