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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 04:52 PM
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Dad Tries to Get Mrs. Couric to Change Sarah's Grade.
Edited on Tue Sep-30-08 04:55 PM by Blue_In_AK
From The Mudflats http://www.themudflats.net/2008/09/30/dad-tries-to-get-mrs-couric-to-change-sarahs-grade/

It happened again. This time Katie Couric managed not only to make Sarah Palin look bad, but John McCain look worse! What was her diabolical secret? She used that secret weapon - asking questions. In this one-on-two interview, John McCain showed up to sit with Sarah to make sure she didn’t screw up too badly, and tried to keep that big bad journalist on a short leash. Saturday night in Philadelphia, Palin was questioned by a Temple graduate student about whether the U.S. military should cross the border from Afghanistan into Pakistan. She answered, “If that’s what we have to do stop the terrorists from coming any further in, absolutely, we should,” Palin said.

That was the subject of Katie Couric’s first question. Palin basically repeated what Barack Obama had said during the Presidential debate, when John McCain scoffed at him and patronizingly admonished him by saying, “You don’t say that out loud.” (subtext: you naive little idiot!)

McCain, in this joint interview, is obviously under stress. He squirms and blinks. You look at him and listen to the tone of his voice, and you know he’s a man on edge. He’s a pressure cooker who’s keeping the lid on with all his might. Palin, comes across as cool and confident (except for that nervous lip lick she does, and the occasional clenched jaw), but with Palin, it’s the transcript that is fascinating. You really have to read the “blizzard of words” to fully appreciate the extent to which she isn’t saying anything.KC: Over the weekend, Governor Palin, you said the US should “absolutely” launch cross-border attacks from Afghanistan to Pakistan to “stop the terrorists from coming any further in” now that’s almost the exact position that Barack Obama has taken and you, Senator McCain, have criticizes as something you do not say out loud. So, Governor Palin, are you two on the same page on this?SP: We had a great discussion with President Zardari as we talked about what it is that America can and should be doing together, to make sure that the terrorists do not cross borders, and do not ultimately put themselves in the position of attacking America again, or her allies. And we will do what we have to do to secure the United States of America and her allies. KC: Is that something you shouldn’t say out loud Senator McCain?JM: Of course not. But look, I understand this day and age “gotcha journalism”. Was that a pizza place? In a conversation with someone who…you didn’t hear the question very well…you don’t know the context of the conversation…grab a phrase. Uh, Governor Palin and I agree you don’t announce that you’re going to attack another country.KC: Are you sorry you said it, Governor?JM: Now wait a minute! Before you say is she sorry she said it, this was a gotcha sound bite.

KC: It wasn’t a gotcha. She was talking to a voter.

JM: She was in a conversation. She was in a conversation with a group of people, and talking back and forth…and I…I don’t…I’ll let Governor Palin speak for herself.

SP: In fact you’re absolutely right on. In the context, this was a voter…a constituents hollerin’ out a question from across an area asking, “What are you gonna do about Pakistan? You better have an answer to Pakistan.” I said, “We’re going to do what we have to do to protect the United States of America.”

KC: You were pretty specific about what you wanted to do - cross border…

SP: (interrupting) As Senator McCain is suggesting here also, never would our administration get out there and show our cards to, uh, terrorists, in this case to enemies, and let them know what the game plan was, not when that could ultimately adversely affect a plan to keep America secure.

KC: What did you learn from that experience?

SP: That this IS all about gotcha journalism. A lot of it is! But that’s OK too.

KC: Governor Palin, since our last interview, you’ve gotten a lot of flack. Some Republicans have said you’re not prepared, you’re not ready for prime time. People have questioned your readiness since that interview, and I’m curious to hear your reaction.

SP: Well, not only am I ready, but willing and able to serve as Vice President with Senator McCain if Americans so bless us and privilege us with the opportunity of serving them. Ready with my executive experience as a city mayor and manager, as a governor, as a commissioner, a regulator of oil and gas.

JM: This is not the first time I’ve seen a governor questioned by some…quote “expert.” I remember that Ronald Reagan was a cowboy. President Clinton was the governor of a very small state that had no experience either. I remember how easy it was going to be for Bush 1 to defeat him. I still recall…whoops…that one. But the point is uh, I’ve seen uh, underestimation before. I’m very proud of the excitement that Gov. Palin has ignited with our party around this country. It is a level of excitement and enthusiasm frankly that I’ haven’t seen before and I’d like to attribute it to me, but the fact is that she has done an incredible job and I’m so proud of the work that she’s doing.

Now, I’m not the one who brought up Bill Clinton, and I wouldn’t have if I were John McCain. BUT….since he did, I thought it would be fun to look at this other governor of a “very small state that had no experience either.” First of all, notice that McCain said “either,” so he is pretty much admitting that Palin has no experience. But lets compare “very small states.”

Alaska: population 626,932. 1.1 people per square mile. Borders a whole lot of empty space in Canada.

Arkansas: population 2,673,400. 51.1 people per square mile. Borders six states.

So John McCain is comparing these two states to justify Palin’s abilities. Arkansas has almost 5 times the population, and 50 times the population density than Alaska. And it has neighbors.

But we won’t quibble. This isn’t a “who’s the smallest” contest. Let’s get to the real meat of McCain’s argument. Let’s compare Bill Clinton’s no experience, with Palin’s “no experience either.”

Clinton: After attending Georgetown on scholarships, he received a B.S. in Foreign Service. After graduation he received a Rhodes scholarship to Oxford where he studied government. He attended and graduated Yale Law School. He was a professor at the University of Arkansas. He was the Attorney General of the State of Arkansas. He was the governor of Arkansas for 10 years. He was the Chair of the National Governor’s Association. He also worked on state and national campaigns.

Palin: One semester at Hawaii Pacific University, two semesters at North Idaho College as a general studies major, two semesters at the University of Idaho, one semester at the Matanuska-Susitna College in Alaska, and three semesters at the Univeristy of Idaho, graduating with a B.S. in communications-journalism. She worked briefly as a sportscaster for an Alaskan TV station and as a sportswriter for the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman newspaper. She spent several years as a homemaker, and four years on the Wasilla city council. She served two terms as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska (pop. 7000), and twenty months as Governor of the aforementioned state with a little over half a million people in it.

So McCain’s argument is that if Bill Clinton could be a successful president, than surely Sarah Palin could. At least that’s what he’s trying to convince the teacher in this weirdly awkward parent-teacher conference. We all know that Sarah’s been trying really hard, but somehow I don’t think Mrs. Couric is going to change her grade.

To watch the clip from the interview, click HERE. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMNHgJH2680

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 04:57 PM
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1. the Palin Pitty Party Continues -- Adam Putnam and Eric Cantor have hurt feelings too
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:02 PM
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2. gee whiz. I'd love to kick that smirky Putnam while he is down
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:05 PM
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3. Palin and Mccain are so full of "it" and themselves it's not even worthy of a chuckle anymore..
Edited on Tue Sep-30-08 05:05 PM by nc4bo
as pathetic as a chuckle as one can manage watching those 2.

I do know that I am glad that I wrote a nice letter to Katie and let her know that I appreciate her tenacity in following up the ridiculous responses coming from the repuke party.

Thanks again Katie for pushing not backing down and following up!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:05 PM
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4. Rec'd~ That was excruciating to watch..palin all obsequious
Edited on Tue Sep-30-08 05:06 PM by zidzi
to mccain and mccain sitting there like an over inflated King Tut.

I'll have to say Katie Couric held her own against the lying elephants.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:06 PM
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5. Palin's words make my head ache
Has she always been this way, or are Alaskans seeing the true Sarah Palin?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:12 PM
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9. She's NEVER been this bad.
It's like one of those science fiction movies where they suck out the person's brain and replace it with a different one. Believe it or not, before she was selected, she had a lot of good things to say about Obama and not much positive about McCain. If you haven't read my post here earlier, check out this editorial opinion in the Anchorage Daily News today to see what I mean.

http://www.adn.com/opinion/comment/story/541124.html
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:36 PM
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11. Wow! Thanks for the link Blue
I hope she gets to come home and face her constituents :-).
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:08 PM
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6. kick n/t
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mscuedawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:08 PM
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7. Actually....I think he was there to bring her a muzzle...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:11 PM
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8. Thanks for posting this. I appreciate it.
My take was the same, and I really appreciate Mudflats pulling the numbers, the education and experience together like this.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:26 PM
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10. North Idaho College is not as impressive as it sounds. Most high schools are bigger & competitive
North Idaho College is just across the Washington/Idaho border from me. It's a very, very small junior college, mostly concentrating on trade school type courses. It's easy to get accepted, and there isn't much competition for grades. Most high schools with a large number of AP classes are more prestigious than NIJC. My sons attended a pretty competitive high school with graduating classes of 500. No more than a handful of graduates went on to NIJC, the vast majority went to more selective four-year schools.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:57 PM
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12. Its obvious you don't know shit about NIC now do you?
Is NIC a prestigious college or university? No its a community college. It always has been and it always will be. Community colleges are open-door uniquely American institutions that offer people a way up and out of poverty and ignorance. The 4,500 students that attend NIC each semester are 87% college transfer students - doing the first two years of their education closer to home then transferring to finish their degrees. Yes, graduates include Sarah Palin - but they also include Actors, Generals, Doctors, and the Managing Engineer responsible for the design and construction of the Chunnel Tunnel. Not bad for a little community college serving the five northern counties in Idaho - not bad at all.

By the way - its not where you go to school its what you do while you are there.


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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 08:14 PM
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14. It's not where I want the Vice President of the U.S. to have attended school.
It's fine. But it's not in the top tier, the second tier or the third tier. Yes...they have some graduates who did okay. But the competition is not fierce. She has a degree in Journalism and couldn't name one publication that she reads on a regular basis. I don't think she is one of our 'best and brightest' minds, and her stint at five different non-prestigious colleges proves it.

The top grads in our area do not go to North Idaho Community College.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 09:36 PM
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15. I'm beginning to think you are as dumb as she is...
Her degree in Journalism is from the University of Idaho not NIC. NIC is a Community College and like all community colleges it is a two year school offering Associates Degrees and yes technical training - not that there's anything wrong with that. Students attend community colleges like NIC - and Spokane Falls Community College and Spokane Community College on your side of the border for a variety of reasons. Many of these students do go on to other colleges universities for further study. Unfortunately your whole argument hinges on her having an inferior mind because she attended an inferior school so I guess by your logic - George W. Bush must be a fucking genus since he graduated from both Yale and Harvard Business School.

Sarah is an idiot - but please don't blame the schools she attended - it reveals more about your ignorance than hers.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:59 PM
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13. You gotta love how Couric asks Palin and McCain answers for her
"KC: Are you sorry you said it, Governor?JM: Now wait a minute! Before you say is she sorry she said it, this was a gotcha sound bite."

pitiful
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 09:42 PM
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16. What was with him and his wedding ring???
I swear I have never seen ANYone take off their wedding ring during any kind of TV interview and start flipping it around in his hands/fingers like he did.
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cosmodem Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 09:44 PM
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17. I thought they looked comfortable together.
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 10:04 PM
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18. sovereignity of nation & self
seems to be a MAJOR theme of this century, with Bush claiming his trumps all others. The U.S. president has set a very dangerous precedent & when Russia invaded Georgia to attack the 'terrorists' that were based there it suddenly was not right; the Baby Boomers have become the hypocrites (at least Neocons & some Dems)they claimed their parents were: do as I say not as I do, like Rush'send them up the river'L. So now Pakistan is like-what was that country? Laos? Self sovereignity is also being wrestled with by Christians & Muslims-both religions bow to an outside deity & are struggling with fundamentalists with very rigid obedience standards. I realize that many others are also dealing with this-adapting to the environment, giving up some things to reduce pollution is causing many arguments. Major changes coming, I doubt Palin or McCain can see ahead of the general population, he has already demonstrated he cannot. To see things first, see consequences without having to travel down that lane, is what leaders do, I don't see that in either of them-Palin or McCain.
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