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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:38 AM
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On conference call, Plouffe reacts to the stupid "Sen. McCain is absolutely right" ad.
Plouffe was asked about McCain's quickie web ad featuring all those times Obama said, "Sen. McCain is absolutely right…"

It just proved that John McCain has spent too much time in Washington…We think the voters who watched the debate last night actually responded very favorably on that…It's odd that John McCain is upset that on a few occasions Sen. Obama said he agreed with Sen. McCain on some things. It's the kind of ad only someone who spent 26 years in Washington would put out.

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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:44 AM
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1. That's the difference between someone who is confident in himself,
and someone who can only tear the other guy down. Obama was great, a gentleman at the debate. I laughed when McSame went on and on and Obama smiled like "oh just let him ramble, he won't shut up anyway".

And he got McSame's goat when he said Sen. McC is absolutely right. LOL masterful.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:48 AM
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2. Should have said that Obama believes in giving credit where credit is due -
even across the aisle, and acknowledging contributions for the betterment of our country, or something like that. That he respects McCain's tenure and accomplishments, but that he's not the guy for our country now.

I noticed that McCain had not one positive comment about Obama. Some people were saying that he (McC) truly doesn't LIKE Obamaa, and we know it's difficult for John to fake warmth and bonhomie.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:51 AM
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3. I'm really picking up on that.
McCain not liking Obama. It looked like just when they walked on stage, it looked like some sort of ordeal for McCain to shake hands with Obama.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:02 AM
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4. He doesn't like anyone ...
really ... He hated Mittens ... Basically, imo, the biggest factor in the Palin pick was him not having the ability to have someone of near or equal status on the ticket with him ...
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:14 AM
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6. I think you're absolutely right. McCain is threatened by younger men
and doesn't think any woman could ever equal a male. You see it in a lot of animals who live in social groups where there's a hierarchy: the old lion who's too decrepit to defend his territory against the younger, stronger ones so he acts desperately aggressive. I'm convinced that's why grumpy old men are grumpy: all their lives they've felt dominant, now they're feeble, racked with aches and pains, and don't have the mental capacity to understand the world anymore. Basically, they're terrified and threatened.

McSame classically displays this syndrome: by condescending to Barack he can tell himself that this person really doesn't threaten him. So you see, McSame is an equal-opportunity liar. He deceives himself as well as the rest of us.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:15 AM
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7. That's because Obama called McLame's bluff to appear at the debate.
And that truly pissed McLame off. Obama didn't fall for the McLame strategists' juvenile and convoluted stunt and at the end, McLame had to eat crow, losing by:

1.) Not being able to delay the debate
2.) Not being able to reschedule the VP debate
3.) Not being able to pull Obama off the trail for an extended time
4.) Not being able to "save the day" with a bailout agreement brokered by him
5.) Not being supported by key players in his own party

It was a pretty rough couple weeks! :rofl:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:08 AM
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5. It shows that McLame is not going to be "bipartisan" and would refuse to reach across the aisle...
Bad tactical advice from his strategists. McLame is supposed to be "the maverick" who is willing to work with others. And if he can't compliment his opponent or say that he agrees with some of his opponent's points (in support of his alleged willingness to be "bipartisan"), then this underscores that his campaign is not being lead and directed by him, but by others for their own self-serving purposes.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:40 AM
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11. Or hell, even LOOK at other people!!!!
If he can't even do THAT, then HTH is he going to be able to "reach across the aisle" and work with Democrats as President?! Also, we know now how much he appears to loathe "liberals" saying that he can't even reach over that far. Good luck trying to work with the other side as President.
Although some people might disagree, Obama came off as somebody who really could work with Republicans as President and is willing to admit when they might have a good point about something. It really says something that the "most liberal Senator in Congress" (which is BS by the way) is able to work with a fundie whacko like Tom Coburn but a supposed "maverick" like McSame can't even stand to LOOK at Obama.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 02:08 PM
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15. I heard talking heads say that it's true McC has reached across the aisle in the
past, the Republicans in the Senate really don't like him at all.


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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:20 AM
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8. It's a very simple tactic that Bill Clinton uses all the time.
When you compliment your opponent, it gives you more credibility. Then when Obama criticizes McCain it has much more impact.

And it's in keeping with the way Obama operates, and shows how non-partisan he is. It didn't seem forced or contrived because he's comfortable and used to talking this way. McCain would choke before he'd ever be able to compliment Obama.
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:26 AM
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9. Yes, they are brilliant. Obama's beautiful smile is used sparingly, too.
Makes it more enjoyable. But he needs to flash that thing a teeny bit more often.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:09 PM
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12. I thought it was just about right--the amount of smiling.
Too much and he'd seem weaker, but not as much and he'd seem too angry. Being black he's got a fine line to walk between the two.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:32 AM
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10. According to Horseshit McNasty's own definition, wouldn't Obama agreeing
with him on some issues classify Obama as a "mavrick?"

McNasty is a total gasbag loser.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:27 PM
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13. If Obama had said "I'm afraid you're completely wrong about that, John"
the idiots would be running ads with repeated loops of Obama saying "I'm afraid, I'm afraid, I'm afraid, I'm afraid, I'm afraid ... "
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 01:35 PM
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14. A broken clock
Is right twice a day!
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