Obama said Grampy 'was right' or 'I agree' WAY TOO much

[Phred42]

SO how long before the Grampy Ad comes out with all of that spliced together nice and tight.

Obama - Stop that. You're shooting yourself in the foot.

[dkf]

1. I thought so too, but I'm also thinking that the undecideds are

not like us.

We are political junkies who love the battle.

The undecideds aren't into politics or they would have figured out what they want by now.

I have a feeling they don't like politics because of the fighting and appreciate Obama's agreeableness more than we do.

[Captain Hilts]

2. No, it was another way of showing he 'plays well with others' in a way McCain does not.

I'm sure it went over well with idiots who are still 'undecided'.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

3. Naw. It shows non-rigidity in thinking.

One comes across as less of an idealogue that way.

[rzemanfl]

4. Obama knows what he is doing. He is trying to convince a

small block of undecided voters who think all politicians lie all the time to vote for him. Saying McCain is right when there is no dispute and then showing where the candidate's positions differ will play well with this group. Someone would have to point a gun at my wife's head to get me to vote for McCain, holding a gun to mine wouldn't work, he doesn't have to close the deal with me.

[cali]

5. bzzzt. just as wrong as you were in the GD forum.

Obama knew what he was doing. He was introducing himself to millions. And he came off as magnaminous and Presidential. Americans prefer that to peevish and angry. McCain did both of the latter.

[pdxmom]

6. Obama has always talked about bipartisanship and finding those

areas on which both sides agree. I just see his agreement of the honesty of that policy. He agrees, so why not say so. And he always backed that agreement up with a nuance that showed whatever minor difference he had. The sides don't disagree on every aspect of every issue and I think Obama was smart to use this strategy, instead of trying to say the exact same thing with different words.

[Connie_Corleone]

7. That's the way Obama is. He's always done that.

A TV ad with that spliced together is not going to make much, if any difference, to independent voters.

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. I find that refreshing, instead of the "I disagree with you on everthing" stuff

I believe Obama knows what he is doing.

Sometimes the opponent does have a valid point.

[ellie]

13. That is what my husband said

Obviously, someone somewhere likes McCain and what he has to say; the guy has been in the Senate for 24 years. So agreeing with some of his points is not a weakness. It is the sign of a leader.

[Richardo]

9. No - it was a great device

Very effective set-up to highlight the DIFFERENCES in his policy, strategy and approach.

"I agree that x, but I would do y, instead of the failed policies of Bush/McC."

I don't think he ever agreed with McC's policies, he just agreed on the nature of the problem, then why his policy was better.



He knows what he's doing.

[Greg K]

10. McCain's already got an ad on YouTube to that effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec3aC8ZJZTc


But I think Obama did the right thing. McCain kept talking about reaching across the aisle but the only bipartisanship on display last night was from Obama.

[Higher Standard]

15. Wow, bonehead ad.

Basically, it comes of as "If you agree with your political opponents on anything, you're not ready to lead." But that totally blows away McCain's arguments about being able to lead in a bipartisan fashion. Hell, it's practically a non-sequitur.

[NC_Nurse]

11. He's killing him with kindness, it'll work. Graciousness is the prime directive

of a diplomat. People who act like McNuts can't get SHIT done with other countries. People may
not realize that they sense Obama is more presidential, but they will.

If he actually attacked him, they'd pull out the POW card and act like Obama was disrespectful. We don't need
THAT bullshit. Instead, it was clear last night that McNuts is the one that's disrespectful and angry. :thumbsup:

[Phred42]

12. "Nice Guys finish last"

[stillcool]

14. I think I heard that all over the tv..

last night.

[SDJay]

16. No, he didn't.

Obama is only highlighting one of the main differences between his approach and McCrap's - Obama is a consensus builder, an ambassador and a statesman. McCrap is a non-thinking bulldog, unable/unwilling to either agree on obvious points or even acknowledge those who don't totally agree with him. It was smart of Obama to do this, as I think we'll see a developing theme from this that Obama's approach really is 'change' from the last 8 years, which have featured mentalities of "FUCK YOU" from our government if others don't agree with us. McCrap would be more of the same - Obama really would be able to rebuild our standing in the world, and anyone who saw that last night will agree. I think just the opposite - it was brilliant. Most of the people I know are not affiliated to a party, and ALL of them liked the possibility of having a country once again that isn't acting like the equivalent of a giant, hubris-laden asshole towards the rest of the world.