****OBAMA\MCLIAR DEBATE THREAD 8*****

[darius15]

Obama is owning McCain. Wow.

[Tatiana]

1. The President on that stage is quite obvious. n/t

[Tatiana]

2. Thanks for the new thread. n/t

[billyoc]

3. SPAIN!!

:woohoo:

[intheflow]

8. I know!

:spray: GOBAMA!! :D

[Tatiana]

53. (In my best Tweety voice) "HA!"

Nailed him right good, he did.

[AllieB]

9. Yes!

:rofl:

[wildeyed]

SPAIN!

:evilgrin:

[Snarkoleptic]

4. McCain is coming unhinged...the boiling lava anger is breaking through.

[workinclasszero]

5. Obama acts and sounds like a president..McBush like an old bumbling idiot

[Chichiri]

6. 9:12 - Obama brings up Spain. LOL!!

McCain laughed in embarrassment.

[Chichiri]

29. 9:14 - Obama: Nobody's saying this. McCain knows it.

But he doesn't call it a lie. He calls it a mischaracterization.

Is there some sort of legal stigma attached to the word "lie"

[RepublicanElephant]

7. spanked!

again.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

10. Obama is the shit!!!!!!

[high density]

11. McCain is babbling about nothing

He thinks we can negotiate by ignoring the other party involved. Fuckin dumbass.

[jazzjunkysue]

12. Barack's trying to set him off-deliberately!!!!! Yesss!!!! Barack boxes!!!

[nadine_mn]

13. Man McCain is getting pissed

wondering what he drawing with his marker

[Patsy Stone]

25. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

[gmoney]

14. "I don't even have a seal yet"

[Justyce]

15. WTF? Is he telling a scary bedtime story now?? Whispering "It's dangerous"

[nadine_mn]

20. I just peed my pants... dangerous

:scared:

[wildeyed]

23. Be afraid.......

be very afraid :scared:

[Epiphany4z]

28. I know I hate that

its amazing voice thing he does

[Gregorian]

16. Obama is wooing Republicans all over America, right now.

It's going to be a landslide. My prediction.

[K8-EEE]

17. McCain and the "across the table" jargon sounds so stupid!

LOL!

[quiet.american]

18. McCain, what you don't understand, is that your talking point is only scary to fellow wingnuts.

[Haole Girl]

19. He's suck a freak. nt

[workinclasszero]

21. Its dangerous to talk..better to start WW3 than talk right McBush???

[POAS]

22. McCain snickering about not knowing about Spain.

[oviedodem]

24. brings up the size of the koreans?????? WTH

[Gregorian]

Aaah! Obama just gave an historic look at McCain. Beautiful.

The Obama Smile. Priceless.

[Ilsa]

26. I'm so fucking tired of McLiar saying "Obama doesn't understand".

He's smarter than you, McLiar.

Obama is explaining and defending his comments very well.

[erinlough]

27. What did he just say about north koreans being 3 inches taller???

[intheflow]

35. Really.

:wtf:

[KamaAina]

He said South Koreans were three inches taller

Earth to McLiar: It's called "starvation and famine". :dunce:

edit: header

[fishwax]

65. that was kind of a bizarre moment

[Glimmer of Hope]

Obama is three inches taller than McCain?

[KamaAina]

How'd we get on North Korea?

Do they share a border with Iran, you know, like Iraq does with Pakistan? :sarcasm:

[Snarkoleptic]

30. My wife "How can you not look at someone when they're talking...he's scaring me"

[Grateful for Hope]

50. It is obvious that McCain has contempt for Obama

He can't even hide it. He is a small, sad, despicable man.

[intheflow]

31. McCain's cracking Obama up!

He LOLed just now! :rofl:

[workinclasszero]

32. Johnny is goin to LOSE IT!!!

[jazzjunkysue]

33. I love how Barack smiles and glances over at the Geezer dismissively.

[Blondiegrrl]

34. Ugh ... McGrumpy and his nasally, wheezy voice. He sounds like an obscene phone caller.

"It's me again, Margaret,"

*creepy laughter*

[KayLaw]

72. Yes!

That's just what he sounds like, except we get to see the scary blinking, too!

[KayLaw]

86. Yes!

That's just what he sounds like, except we get to see the scary blinking, too!

[ladym55]

36. Grampy is losing it ...

[AllieB]

37. He's about to blow!!!

TERRA!!!! FEAR!!!!!!

[Gregorian]

38. The Obama Smile! PRICELESS.

[Blondiegrrl]

47. Calm, cool and collected.

[sunnybrook]

159. absolutely!

compare with phony mccain nervous smirky smile

[RepublicanElephant]

39. obama is making mcsame defend dubya's policies.

and to brag about that war criminal kissinger as a good friend.

[billyoc]

40. He's losing it!

AhmOnStageNooneCanHearMeScreamIjad.

[Phoonzang]

41. Big negative swing for Indies and dems on that McCain tirade. n/t

[POAS]

49. BIG swing south for McCain on that one

[workinclasszero]

42. Palin wants WW3 with Russia!!! YEE HAW!!!!

[Blue Diadem]

43. McCain just lost it there for a bit. The precondition thing just

drove him closer to the edge.

[jazzjunkysue]

44. Georgia. Bring it.

[spanone]

45. it seems mcclown thinks this entire debate is a comedy routine

[BlueIdaho]

46. And there is McCain's temper!!!!!!!!

The guy is blowing a gasket!

[Snarkoleptic]

48. The aveage S. Korean is 3" taller than the average N. Korean...WTF???

[Willo]

57. That was really odd.

And he left that out there with no explanation.

[susanwy]

62. Actually true --

Due to malnutrition in North Korea. Also, other developmental benchmarks are lower, height, weight, brain development etc. etc.

However, comes off kinda stupid out of context....

[Chichiri]

51. 9:17 - Obama is not forgetting Poland.

Talking about other countries joining NATO.

[intheflow]

55. Rattling off the names of ALL the countries in the region.

Some I've never heard of, and his pronunciation is perfect! :)

[ladym55]

52. Obama is bringing up small European countries

Places that Grampy and his running mate can't even find on a map

[Greyskye]

54. ALL GROUPS POS FOR OBAMA in Russia segment

[Snarkoleptic]

56. Nice yellow teeth and idiot chuckle!

[durtee librul]

67. I wonder if

Sara showed John Russia from her house?

[shanti]

75. when you can actually SEE his teeth!

he has that "stiff upper lip", sort of like his arms. he's a freakin stiff!

[durtee librul]

84. WOW...the base is all excited....

he can say big words...doesn't matter he doesn't say them right, just like Georgie. Just what we need another stammering fool

[jazzjunkysue]

58. Isn't it nice to hear an intellingent, informed leader, for a change?

[President Decider]

59. WTF is Nei'ev'a-'tee .... John?

[President Decider]

73. On every response, Grandpa McCain tells us a story .... how comforting

WTF? Does he really need to tell us an "I remember when" story to EVERYTHING?

[Virginia Dare]

93. And now my friends a walk down memory lane...

this is why he wants town hall debates, so he can enrapture his audience with his heart warming and dramatic stories.

[Mad_Dem_X]

101. It's only reminding everyone how old he is

Not good.

[jane_pippin]

60. Fuck off Walnuts.

[Chichiri]

9:19 - McCain sets the record for most uses of the phrase "He doesn't understand" in a debate.

Any debate. Ever.

EDIT: McCain didn't forget Poland either. 2 for 2 -- way to go, guys!

[ladym55]

61. Why is Obama naive???

Isn't Grampy the guy who picked the MAYOR OF WASILLA, ALASKA FOR HIS RUNNING MATE????

just askin

[intheflow]

70. It's a nod to Palin who implied Kissinger was naive today.

They're tag-team buddies. :rofl:

[Haole Girl]

63. McLiar saw "KGB" in Putin's eyes??

I call bullshit!!

[Justyce]

64. OMG! Shut up with the "Obama doesn't understand" "Reagan" "Obama doesn't

understand" "Reagan" Geez. I HATE HIM.

[genna]

66. What's the point about Georgia in terms of how the next president is going to approach security with

Russia?

[Hope And Change]

68. McCain sounds like a broken record.

[HughBeaumont]

69. More "Evil Empire" Reaganite bullshit.

GOD will these guys NOT give this ghost UP? McClown doesn't want a cold war, but keeps bringing up "old empire" and KGB. Stupid shit.

[intheflow]

78. This whole Crabby Grampa thing is getting old. n/t

[progdog]

92. He's whispering like Reagan.

n/t

[smoochpooch]

71. I guess Kennedy was wrong for using "restraint" during the Cuban Missile Crisis. n/t

[Virginia Dare]

74. Oh fuck, not another "I went there" story!...n/t

[high density]

76. McCain: I went there, and there, and there...

Does anybody care where he's been? Anybody can jump on a plane and go somewhere.

[Haole Girl]

97. On the taxpayers hard earned money. nt

[ladym55]

98. Especially if your wife has her very own plane

[susanwy]

77. Yea but who did Mikheil Saakashvili

call....

BIDEN, not McLame

[Turn CO Blue]

79. Why does McCain have a lumpy back? Wired?

[cui bono]

204. batteries.

[TeeYiYi]

80. Cue Palin . . .

Shouldn't grampa be bringing his expert on Russia out at this point? . . .

TYY

[KamaAina]

81. KGB??!!

Earth to McLiar: KGB is a radio station in San Diego.

The Russian state security agency is called the FSB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB

KGB (transliteration of "КГБ") is the Russian abbreviation of Committee for State Security (Russian: Комитет государственной безопасности?·i; Komityet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosty), which was the official name of the umbrella organization serving as the Soviet Union's premier security agency, secret police, and intelligence agency, from 1954 to 1991.

The name of the largest of the Russian successors to the KGB is the FSB (ФСБ, Федеральная служба безопасности; Federalnaya Slujba Bezopasnosty; English: Federal Security Service).

:dunce:

[Greyskye]

McCain on Russia: Indies barely + until folksy story. IND & REP low +

[POAS]

Namedroppng and bragging about

foreign travels to trouble spots.

Not wearing well.

[nc4bo]

90. Of course, he's best friends with Georgia. nt

[Turn CO Blue]

82. Why does McCain have a lumpy back? Wired?

[Chichiri]

103. His back looks okay to me.

[geekgrrl]

104. I actually don't think he's wired. I think he's McTroll.

[VWolf]

If he's wired, it must not be working nt

[weezie1317]

83. McCain is trying to portray Obama on the "dangerous black man" -- Fuck you McCain!!!

[HopeforChange]

85. Sounds like McCain will go to war with Russia and Iran ... Diplomacy anyone ?

[CLANG]

87. McNutts is losing it

[HopeforChange]

88. Sounds like McCain will go to war with Russia and Iran ... Diplomacy anyone ?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

89. McCain is sending me to sleep!

[POAS]

91. Namedroppng and bragging about

foreign travels to trouble spots.

Not wearing well.

[HopeforChange]

Sounds like McCain will go to war with Russia and Iran ... Diplomacy anyone ?

[curse10]

94. KGB

Really?

[susanwy]

95. Yea but who did Mikheil Saakashvili

call....

BIDEN, not McLame

[paparush]

96. Can McCone not turn his head to the left? Is there too much scar tissue?

or is he just refusing to look at Obama at all.

[fishwax]

You're talking about a man who, for seven years, the only thing he saw on his left was a POW cell

[sagetea]

99. sorry I just got home...

so if anybody already answered this question, please forgive me.
"Where in the hell is Mccrotchstain's flag pin?

[ladym55]

111. OH NO!!!

HE MUST NOT LOVE AMERICA!!!!!!!

[Snarkoleptic]

100. Gramps is now regurgitating the debate-coach talking points...a thin veneer of prep-h.

[jazzjunkysue]

102. Gramps is defending his competency as a senator, not a president.

Barack is presidential.

[genna]

YOU ARE RIGHT Barack is presidential.

[lumberingbear]

105. It's going to get good now....

McCain is getting tired and Obama is really getting wound up!!!

[Snarkoleptic]

106. Wasn't Georgia the aggressor over S. Ossetia? Not in grandpa's eyes!

[nc4bo]

107. Voted 23 times against alternative energy!! Yes Obama! nt

[oviedodem]

108. segway to energy was slick; albeit off topic.

[Blondiegrrl]

138. Wow. Obama is doing really well on the audience reaction with this.

All three lines merged throughout most of his talking.

[Carolina]

109. I am eating this up but

I wish that when Obama slams McCain he would do so by countering McCain's derisive "you don't understand..." with

I understand that you did...
I understand that you voted ...
I understand that you _____________ (fill in the blank) ...

McCain has been coached to talk to Obama if he's too young and inexperienced and hence the repeated mantra (typical repuke tactic) YOU DON"T UNDERSTAND.

And BTW, Fuck McCain!

[RepublicanElephant]

115. wish he would say "i understand perfectly well." n/t

[RepublicanElephant]

127. oh boy. terrorism. like #6 or 7 on the issues that matter most list.

economy is only #1

[Thegonagle]

110. Oooh. Gramps just lost it for about 1/3 second there.

[Blondiegrrl]

120. That wasn't pretty. He was totally spinning out of control.

Obama, as usual, was a class act.

[jazzjunkysue]

112. Don't interrupt the geezer, Barack.

[paparush]

113. Drilling offshore will lessen our energy requirements??? ORLY?

[ORDem]

114. McCain just can't stop dropping names and telling old war stories. Gramps is the perfect name.

[geekgrrl]

121. Its like someone sent Gramps out for ice cream and he came home with hot dogs.

[Hansel]

129. Yep. He keeps reminding everyone he's old. Awesome. nt

[Gold Metal Flake]

116. NOOO! Must not mention Yucca!

[Kierkegaard]

124. Man, he's a nasty mother******.

Typical Repunk. Talk loud, talk fast, deny everything.

[Tatiana]

117. McCain honestly comes off looking like a jerk. A disgusting, weaselly, jerk.

I don't know how Obama keeps his cool.

When they get back to the Senate, Obama might want to corner the little guy again and teach him some respect.

[jane_pippin]

118. Ugh--McCain is just cold gross. His hissy s' sounds, his terrifying smile...

ugh. He just seems all dusty and wrong.

[shanti]

he whistles when he talks

he's very creepy

[AldebTX]

119. Well Its Obvious

Neither of these guys likes each other.

[ORDem]

122. Wow! McCain is way off the mark on the 9/11 answer. What the hell does

his answer have to do with whether another attack is possible?

[RoccoR5955]

128. He never answered the question!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

143. McCain uses the same words as Cheney! 9/11 and Iraq = McCheney

[Mad_Dem_X]

123. If he says "reach across the aisle" again

I'm going to scream.

[Chichiri]

125. 9:26 - Storytime!

Zzzzzz

Oooooh . . .

9:27 - McCain: We have to have trained interrogators so that we make sure we never torture a prisoner every again. America is safer today than on 9/11, but still not safe.

[bdamomma]

126. america is safer.

sure it is john.

[paparush]

130. 10:28 pm - McCain admits we've tortured prisoners.

"We must assure we never torture another prisoner again."

[Greyskye]

131. McCain 9/11: Indies not too impressed for the majority

[Greyskye]

132. McCain 9/11: Indies not too impressed for the majority

[beac]

133. What a STUPID and TERRIBLE last question!

Of course, Obama is giving a GREAT answer anyway-- talking about th threats we haven't addressed at all!

[jazzjunkysue]

134. The audience meter just follows the talker. It's meaningless. They could put the Aflac duck up there

and the morons with the switches would push it to the duck, as long as it kept talking.

[intheflow]

where's the audience meter?

I'm not seeing one on MSNBC.

[garybeck]

135. Why isn't Obama mentioning that McCain voted ****FOR TORTURE**** ?????

WTF?

[garybeck]

136. Why isn't Obama mentioning that McCain voted ****FOR TORTURE**** ?????

WTF?

[Greyskye]

137. ALL GROUPS POS FOR OBAMA during 9/11 2min

[uponit7771]

151. Yeah, I saw that...is this an open meter? Thx

[intheflow]

139. Reagan AGAIN!

God, this could have been a drinking game!

[Greyskye]

140. "Sen. Obama doesn't understand" = INDIES HATE IT!!!

[RoccoR5955]

141. YAAAAAAA Leave RONALD RAY GUN ALONE!!!!!!

He's STILL DEAD, isn't he?!?!?!

[AbbeyRoad]

142. Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan..

:crazy:

[ck4829]

152. This is getting pathetic

[MorningGlow]

144. Again with the Reagan invocation

Was there a rule about that in the drinking game?

[HopeforChange]

145. McCain - 100 year war !

[ladym55]

146. Back to we must win in Iraq

All would be lost if we withdraw from Iraq...

We must ALL follow General Betrayus ...

[michaz]

147. The longer he speaks the worse his dentures get in the way. Imagine

how he would sound speaking with heads of state!

[RoccoR5955]

155. He needs sea grip for those chompers!

[Blondiegrrl]

148. Indies and Dems merge in their negative reaction to McCain.

[Greyskye]

149. Observation: When Obama talks policy, ALL GROUPS SLOWLY TREND UP

[Mad_Dem_X]

150. Mentioning Bin Laden - perfect!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

188. Yes it is McCain and Bush who have failed to find Bin Ladin

[KamaAina]

153. Yo McLiar! Obama's plan does NOT have specific dates for withdrawal.

It is a timeframe.

Stop lyin', hoser!

[Virginia Dare]

McCain doesn't seem to understand..

nobody gives a shit what Ronald Reagan said!

[susanwy]

154. OMG

Do those who are watching CNN see the independent line drop with McCain's last rant about Iraq and Alqaeda! Right along with the democratic line!!!

Yea, he is winning with independents!!!

[Blondiegrrl]

161. Yup.

:toast:

[DeschutesRiver]

178. I am stinking sick of the snarks from McCain

does he have anything else substantive to say? Not misleading or flat out inaccurate? A few less "gramps is reliving his war stories" episodes?

[krkaufman]

156. The concept that al Qaeda would have a stable, permanent base in Iraq ...

... should we pull out is ridiculous. It's a Shiite majority country, and the government would not accept the presence of al Qaeda.

[beac]

157. McInsane's ONLY line is 'Senator Obama doesn't understand'. Yet, with his EVERY answer Obama

proves he DOES understand.

HOW can ANYONE still support McInsane???

[Chichiri]

158. 9:29 - Obama: We are less respected now than 8 or even 4 years ago.

Props to McCain for bringing up torture, but because of those things, the next admin is going to have a lot of work to do to restore our credibility.

9:30 - Storytime! Oh, and Obama doesn't understand.

9:32 - This administration has been all about Iraq. Bin Laden is still out there. al-Qaeda is still resurgent. China is everywhere. We have weakened ourselves because of Iraq, not to mention our economy. This is a national security issue. Nobody's talking about losing the war -- we're talking about the next President having a broader vision.

[Greyskye]

160. Economy is Nat. Sec issues resonates w/ Repubs!

[uponit7771]

164. BIG TIME!!!!

[jazzjunkysue]

162. Nice wrap-up, Barack. It's about the war, stupid. We've screwed up, big time.

[Mad_Dem_X]

And McCain is still a condescending prick

[intheflow]

170. Yeah, that was classy and smooth.

[paparush]

163. Excellent - Framing Economy as a National Security Issue.

[high density]

165. McCain wants to debate judgment!

What a dummy.

[Greyskye]

166. Indies HATE McCain talking down to Obama!

[Greyskye]

172. Repubs neutral

[uponit7771]

McSame tryin to tie Obama to Bush?!????!!?!?!

[paparush]

179. Yeah that was surreal.

[nc4bo]

167. Mccain resorts to lies and deception - again. nt

[quiet.american]

168. McCain doesn't think Obama has the props, but he's proud of Palin?! nt

[Rosa Luxemburg]

169. why are McCain's eyes blinking constantly?

what is he smiling at?

[intheflow]

175. Liars blink a lot?

[nc4bo]

He blinks more as he lies. nt

[kgnu_fan]

184. i think he knows he is lying...hiding behind himself.. lying

[LuckyLib]

171. McSame is a condescending, patronizing little toad.

:mad: :mad:

[Gregorian]

173. OMG. McCain is really grasping at straws to compare Obama to Bush?

Sheesh.

[Tatiana]

174. New thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7208599

[Phoonzang]

176. Big negatives with Indies and Repubs in regards to McCain's attack.

[beac]

177. VETERANS HATE YOU, McINSANE!!

[ladym55]

180. Why does Grampy keep bringing up experience??

And he'll take care of the VETERANS????? Why start now?????

He is such a lying sack of crap.

[AllieB]

181. I'll take care of the veterans!!!

:wtf:

[paparush]

186. He loves them.

[paparush]

198. McCain gets the last word..and he ended with POW. Shocking.

[RoccoR5955]

I can't believe how low all groups when when grandpa dissed Obama!

[soleft]

182. McCain is trying to provoke Obama - don't fall for it Obama

[BlueStateGirl]

183. Wow. That Indy line was tanking when McCain started talking and

saying Obama didn't understand.

[michaz]

185. He is old and tired and the more tired he gets the less he can talk. Imagine

that answering the phone at 3AM!

[bdamomma]

187. Obama is doing well.

McCain is saying he has so much more experience oh my god, he just said obama does not have experience. unbelieveable STFU john. John is a powder keg. he is going to take care of the vets. Oh, he is really rude, I don't need any on the job training. That is why everyone rolled their eyes yesterday when he showed up in DC.


He is arrogant and rude, haven't we had enough of that.

[Blondiegrrl]

195. NEWSFLASH: McCain was a POW!!!III!II!I!I!I!I!

[RoccoR5955]

201. This just in.... Obama dodged the draft in Viet Nam...

He was too busy in kindergarten to help his country!

[RoccoR5955]

202. This just in.... Obama dodged the draft in Viet Nam...

He was too busy in kindergarten to help his country!

[cui bono]

189. Why didn't Obama bring up mccain's voting record on vets???

It's horrible!!!

[high density]

190. by the way, I'm a POW!

[bdamomma]

191. I do not like mccain at all.

[Greyskye]

192. Obama: Indies tracking w/ dems pos - repubs neutral. McCain (POW) = no groups impressed

[krkaufman]

193. Wow... the CNN audience reaction was HATING McCain's comments at the end.

When he was berating Obama.

[Chichiri]

194. 9:33 - McCain: I honestly believe that Obama sucks.

He's too stubborn. Also, I love veterans, and I'll take care of them. I have knowledge and background and judgment.

9:36 Oh, and I was a POW.

9:37 Lehrer: And we'll end it there.

[beac]

196. Jim, YOU SUCK. You did another crappy job of moderating.

[RoccoR5955]

197. IMNSHO Obama pwned grandpa!

[paparush]

199. Cindy looking like a minion from hell .

[shadowknows69]

200. McCain always gets the last word huh.

Great job Jim.

[iconicgnom]

203. It was a total victory.

It started slow, but Obama had control of the whole thing.
The way he ended it was pure Muhammad Ali, in his prime.