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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:29 AM
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Muslim American interviews Howard Dean about Obama. Some blunt Q & A
Wajahat Ali is a Muslim American of Pakistani descent. He is a playwright, essayist, humorist, and Attorney at Law, whose work, “The Domestic Crusaders” is the first major play about Muslim Americans living in a post 9-11 America. His blog is at http://goatmilk.wordpress.com/.

From Huffington Post:

The Case for Obama: An Interview with Howard Dean

Long interview, hard to just post snips. The questions from the interviewer are often quite blunt.

ALI: The addition of Sarah Palin to the Republican campaign, which has revitalized the Republican base and won over many undecided voters, suggests Republicans still maintain the stronghold on "cultural values." Republicans portray themselves successfully as harbingers of morality, security, God and stability. Democrats are painted as Godless, elitist, baby killing, homosexual pornographers. How do you convince the American voter that your party best represents their "cultural values?"

DEAN: All you have to do is look at the past 8 years. I mean Bush and McCain have talked for 8 years all about "their cultural values." Look where we are today? We see bankruptcies. We see a government that cares more about mortgage companies than mortgage holders. In short, they've turned out to be a total fraud. Here, McCain is talking about what he's going to do to change Wall Street. He was part of a huge banking scandal about 15 years ago!

The voters have figured out that the Republicans talk about values, but they don't really have many. The Democrats, on the other hand, have been quietly plugging along, and really doing things for people. When we took over again in 2006, one of the first things we did was we raised the minimum wage. That gets a long way to assure equal pay for women. The next thing we did was restore the Pell Grants (student loans) that Republicans had cut. But I think we have much better values than the Republicans, which seem to be "you're on your own, and we're gonna' get what we want out of the government and out of the tax payers."


The party of God concept:

ALI: There is a Republican monopolization as the "Party of God," and the party of "religious values."

DEAN: We've made a major effort to counteract that. We had an Imam from Chicago on a credentials committee in Denver. I think that's the first time that has ever happened. We've really reached out to Americans of all faiths, including Islam. Because we believe the future of America is diversity. And young people know that. They get what the Democratic values are. They scratch their heads at how the Republicans have been saying all these things all these years, and been doing exactly the opposite.


The subject of racism:

ALI: Obama represents a new type of America, which is in fact a historical America. He is multiracial, has an Arabic name, he has a White mom, an African American father. Yet, he also represents another side of America. We see many people openly saying they won't vote for him due to his race or due to his Arabic name, and there have been sleazy connotations and smear campaigns as a result. What do you think this reflects about America?

DEAN: We now have two Muslim American Congressmen representing a very diverse group of people. The country has changed. You don't have to be a particular race in order to get people to vote for you who look like you. It doesn't work that way anymore. Again, there is unfortunately still some racism. But there's a lot less than it used to be. And I think the rise of Barack Obama is really the rise of a new generation that has grown up in a very multicultural country, and I think that's very good for America.


Dean has always been working with the Muslim community.

Howard Dean tells muslim group: "stand up and say who you are and be proud of it."

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean told American Muslims gathered in Rosemont to think beyond voter registration drives.

"You need to run for political office," Dean said Saturday. "The only way you can achieve your goals is to stand up and say who you are and be proud of it."

Those in the packed house rose to their feet and applauded.


He has done more work with the Muslim community. Here is a video that really impressed me.

Video of Dean's message to MPAC

"Howard Dean addresses (via pre-recorded video) the Muslim Public Affairs Council and the Muslim community during MPAC's 6th Annual Convention titled "Revival, Renewal, Relevance: Understanding Islam for the Future" on December 16, 2006 at the Long Beach Convention Center in California. ..."

There is more in the Huff Post interview of interest. Just couldn't go over the copyright limit.

This has been a shameful time in our country. So many stood by and let the Republicans scapegoat and ridicule nearly all minorities.

We need a Democrat in the White House badly.


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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:40 AM
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1. Excellent post.
We need more understanding of religion and less tolerance of politics AS religion. The radicals in every group have taken over the news coverage and thereby colored the views of the average American. I think most of us are far more tolerant and closer together than the "news" will ever show.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:46 AM
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2. I definitely agree.
:hi:
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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 01:13 AM
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4. k
:kick:

I'm up too late. Who else is up to kick this???
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 12:13 PM
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17. "Up to late" kicks are great.
Since I retired, I am a night owl, too. :hi:
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:42 AM
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21. I agree, also
especially in light of what happened to me today. My mother, a fundamental xtian, has this bad habit of forwarding outrageous religious BS to me in mass mailings, along with my sister and brother, even though I've asked her to stop sending it to me. My brother is also a fundi-mentalcase, but my sister is like me about religion: "theenks, but no theenks".

She forwarded some mess to me about some prime minister in Australia saying that they are going to kick all Muslims out of Australia. An old story, but she was going for the "I'm better than they are cause I'm saved" tack. The title of her email was "The US and India should follow suit". As I'm the "winona" of the family, my response to my mother was measured and respectful: "that's repugnant. I'm glad the constitution of my country guarantees freedom of religion to all its citizens." My little sister, who doesn't mince any words wrote: "to hell with all religion". A vertible nuclear warhead lobbed right into mom's lap. Mind you, our responses went out to the entire email list. My sister said when she got home, mom wasn't in a talking mood. Oh well...
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:53 AM
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3. Who are the two Muslim American congressmen Dean is referring to?
One is Keith Ellison from MN. Who is the other?

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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 04:55 AM
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7. I know that Nick Rahall is of Lebanese decent, but he's Presbyterian
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 04:57 AM
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8. I believe it is André Carson
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 01:34 AM
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5. Snap!
"The voters have figured out that the Republicans talk about values, but they don't really have many. "

Tell them how it is Howard Dean!
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 12:47 AM
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13. That's what I love about Howard Dean.
He cuts to the chase simply and articulately.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 04:48 AM
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6. Fantastic post, MadFloridian
You're my first Must Read today.... :)

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean told American Muslims gathered in Rosemont to think beyond voter registration drives.

"You need to run for political office," Dean said Saturday. "The only way you can achieve your goals is to stand up and say who you are and be proud of it."


Good stuff, Howard. Really good stuff
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 12:20 AM
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12. I agree.
He has worked very hard to get moderate Muslims on board.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:00 AM
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9. Many Muslims in America think they fall in to the Republican camp
because of these so called "values". I have been working hard in the community to show them they should be on the left side of things because of Social Justice issues. I think it is working too. They see the hypocrisy of the Republicans and Deen was smart for reiterating this point. It really rings a note with the community.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 10:11 AM
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16. It is hard to see they would consider Republicans...after the scapegoating
the Republicans have done to Muslims the last few years. They have tended to lump too many in with extremists.

Good for you for working like that. :hi:
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:02 AM
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10. K & R!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:09 PM
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18. Yes. indeed.
Hope and Change
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:40 AM
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11. Ali
Kind of messed up: ALI: Obama represents a new type of America, which is in fact a historical America. He is multiracial, has an Arabic name, he has a White mom, an African American father. He was African.

This is just a 'little' thing but - I've encountered a few white Republicans that have a fear that Barack will get 'Black people Slave Reparations'.

How I shut them down is by stating the fact that his father was Kenyan and as such - he doesn't descend from American Slaves. Then I follow up with - "Now why would he make that his dog fight when it's not something he relates to?"

Tends to shut him up. So it kind of irks me that the reporter - who probably just had a little gaffe - put that out there.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 12:50 AM
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14. I don't understand how a muslim could fall in with the repubs
when they accuse them all of being terrorists! I don't get that!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 02:04 AM
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15. Absolutely heartwarming speech by Dean and Kaptur and Cegelis
They were speaking at the ISNA convention. They were very well-received.

...." The first speaker would be Chris Cegelis, Leader of the Greater Chicago Caucus. Chris Cegelis told us of the of marches and prayer vigils and how much she rallied against the Iraq war. She spent much of her time talking to people who went into this war and who were informed on the matter. Chris’s words: “I knew there were no wmd. If I knew this and my congressman didn’t know this - he needed to be replaced” brought the room to a roar of applause."

..."Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur took the podium next and greeted us all with Assalamu Alaikum with an Alaikumu Salam returned in unison by the audience. She spoke about “the god we all trust” and how we are all here in the interest of America, in the world. She quoted George Washington on stamping out tyranny in the world and reminded us that “Liberty must be won by every generation anew. It is not free.”

.....It was quite interesting watching these fidgety late teens and twenty-something year olds turning their heads, looking towards the door anxiously awaiting Howard Dean. This was it - this right here, this vibrant young enthusiasm was what differentiated my generation from theirs. Not because they are Deaniacs, mind you, but because within these wide eyes you can see hope. You can see the innocence and yes the good naivety that none of us should ever have lost. You can see in their eyes the hidden solutions that they all carry to all of the problems of the world. You can see the simplicity of it all but somehow, somehow you just can’t see far enough to be able to touch it or grasp it, to feel it again.

That was written by a special blogger at the conference.

I have her post linked in this thread, but can not access it right now.

Moving, powerful blog entry about the Muslim conference speakers...Dean, Cegelis and Kaptur.



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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:18 PM
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19. based on your excerpts
the questions were very well-formulated, and Dean gave very good answers.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:46 PM
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20. I think so as well.
They were not easy questions over all. I agree the answers were good.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:05 AM
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22. I tried to Rec this, but it started more than 24 hours.
I think Dean is handling all these things the best he can.
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