On Letterman: Chris Rock holding Bill Clinton's feet to the fire!

[endthewar]

Hilarious! Some quotes:

"Did he not want to say the name Barack Obama?"
"She lost to some black guy that nobody had ever heard of! Get over it!"


On Sarah Palin:

Talked about how she's a moose killer and proud of it. Michael Vick must be asking himself, "Why am I in jail?" :rofl:

[BrklynLiberal]

1. I think a lot of people watching that show agree with him....

Based on his talking points, it was difficult to determine who Clinto nwould be voting for in November.

[Hieronymus]

65. Can't wait to see it. Clinton gave that impression on The View, which I only

saw a clip from.
He can't wait for Hillary to take him back the the White House.

[endthewar]

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[Metric System]

3. Now THIS is unity. Uh huh.

[scheming daemons]

6. Bill Clinton is the source of disunity.... Chris Rock called him on it...

If you are defending Bill Clinton's actions today, YOU are the source of disunity.


All we want is for BILL to show some unity... we're getting made when he sows disunity.


You're ass-backward.

[Cha]

16. Thanks for calling out

Ingnored on whatever defense it had of Bill Clinton's actions today.

"That's all we wanted", is right.

[slinkerwink]

37. Bill Clinton's smart enough to know how to phrase his words

[blm]

101. And too politically savvy to not know EXACTLY what he's doing when he chooses the words he uses.

These same Clinton apologists ignored Bill's use of his summer2004 book tour to support and vigorously defend Bush from the very criticisms our 2004 nominee was making against Bush at the time.

Why on earth do they expect us to believe he was just naive and didn't know he was hurting Kerry at the time or Obama now, and then also want us to believe that he is the most savvy political animal of our generation?

[AtomicKitten]

44. word x 1,000

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[Colobo]

86. Bill Clinton is not being categorical about his support for Obama.

He needs to be.

[Sebass1271]

4. AWESOME!!

WAIT TO GO CHRIS!!

[Neecy]

5. wow - he really let him have it

He's much more entertaining than Bill, anyway.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

7. If it wasnt for motherfucking truthtelling comedians...

[Cha]

18. Too perfect for our Obama Biden

campaign that one of those "comedians" followed Bill Clinton on Letterman.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

26. Looking forward to seeing it out here in the Old West ...

:hi:

God bless yer hide, Bill, but you done lost yer way ...

[Cha]

47. It's very

sad:hi:

[A-Schwarzenegger]

72. I dont think he can help it.

I think he's broken. Maybe he'll surprise everybody, but at this point
I hope we dont need his vote the win the election. I dont know if
he's capable of even pulling the level for ... that guy, whatever
his name is.

[Metric System]

8. Yay! Now this will be all over the news tomorrow and the DEMOCRATS DIVIDED narrative will be all the

talk again. Well played.

[scheming daemons]

9. 100% Bill Clinton's fault..... NOBODY else's.

You can't defend what Bill did today. You simply cannot.

[Metric System]

15. Overreact much?

[Forkboy]

54. You tell us.

You're the one starting the Bash Biden thread.

What was that about over reacting again? :shrug:

[Metric System]

62. I made it VERY clear in that thread that it's MOCK OUTRAGE. I am NOT seriously asking people to bash

Biden. Ugh.

[Forkboy]

67. Yeah, I saw that. Changes nothing.

The Op was an over reaction to your dislike of the Clinton threads. There's nothing really wrong with that...until you accused someone else of over reacting.

Hypocrisy is 'ugh" inducing, indeed.

[slinkerwink]

39. Yep. Bill's got to clean up his own shit again.

[Neecy]

12. oh, please

That would have been the story anyway even without Chris Rock - Clinton has done nothing today except praise McCain/Palin and mention Obama only in passing.

[scheming daemons]

23. MetricSystem knows this.... he/she is twisting in knots trying to find a way to

defend Clinton.


He spent the entire interview with Letterman completely avoiding the mention of Obama... except in passing at the end.


McCain got more props from Clinton than Obama did.


It was surreal.

[Metric System]

41. Yes, how DARE I have a different view point. Carry on...

[scheming daemons]

53. Your point of view flies in the face of objective reality.

No one can honestly have watched Clinton on Letterman and been able to tell who he was voting for. He praised McCain three different times, and Obama once.

Palin got more "recs" from Clinton than Obama did.


Chris Rock... who is a great comedian able to see through the bullshit... saw what 98% of the public watching Letterman saw.


You're in the 2%.

[Metric System]

58. If a viewer doesn't know that former Democratic President Bill Clinton is voting for Democratic

nominee Barack Obama then they're too stupid to be watching Letterman.

[scheming daemons]

69. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. BASED ON HIS REMARKS, ONE COULDN'T TELL

Read the transcript when it becomes available.


He went out of his way to NOT mention Obama and to praise John McCain.

[nichomachus]

77. How do you know that?

Bill has been a loose cannon in this election cycle -- and may actually have lost the primary for Hillary.

[juajen]

80. For pity's sake.

Letterman had Bill on to discuss his Foundation work, which convenes at the same time as the UN so that participation is more convenient for the philanthropists and big wigs that will be in town. Bill Clinton is not an extension of Barack Obama. He does not get up every day and say to himself, "Gee, what can I do to help Obama today?" He is a busy, busy man. Frankly, why should he do anything for Obama, who didn't even acknowledge Bill's presidency during the primary. It was always Reagan, etc., etc., etc.

After that subject, Letterman steered the conversation to the economy and asked for an explanation for what was going on. At that time, Bill explained a complicated subject in a direct way that some people, anyway, could understand.

After those two discussions, Bill and David addressed the current political/election climate. Bill talked about what a great friend and man Biden was, because this was what David asked him about. He informed Letterman that he was joining Biden in Northern Pennsylvania to campaign for Obama, and was very nice.

The Clintons are doing what is asked of them. I'm not sure what else you all expect. For God's sake, get a grip. Who else is campaigning for him? Don't ya'll ever talk about anyone else?

[endthewar]

88. The backlash against Bill is only starting

He better brace for it, because it's going to engulf him like he never imagined it would. I'm not saying that I'll be leading the charge, but I won't be too far from the front. :evilgrin:

:rofl:

[Pastiche423]

107. That explanation of a complicated subject

was complete w/bullshit phrases that no one could follow, not even Letterman. He was on the show for Bill Clinton and a smattering of Hillary this or Hillary that. I, who has been reading everything I could to try to understand the meltdown, was at a loss to understand him.

He is a Democratic (DLCer) "elder" that should be supporting the Democratic presidential nom in public. And as Chris Rock stated as soon as he came out (paraphrasing), "What, he's afraid to say the word.....O-b-a-m-a?"

It was screamingly obvious.

[Nedsdag]

13. Well, if your boy Bill would've cooperated and given a cohesive answer,

people wouldn't feel so angry with his doublespeak.

[ShortnFiery]

14. No, the DLC democrats are clawing and scratching to maintain control of the party.

It. Won't. Work. No matter how much the whorish corporate media try to split us apart DEMOCRATS are united in support of an OBAMA/BIDEN ticket.

Bill and Hill had eight wonderful years in the WH. Hillary is one EXCELLENT Senator.

Let it go BILL, just "let go." :(

[Arugula Latte]

20. Agree with scheming daemons. Bill Clinton should have thought of this beforehand.

He just doesn't care -- he's all about the Clintons, and not his party.

[Metric System]

25. Well thank God we have Chris Rock to turn this into an even bigger deal in the press!

[scheming daemons]

31. Chris Rock wasn't operating in a vacuum.. he was reacting to what Bill said....

Come on, are you for real?

Did you SEE the show?


Chris Rock didn't "plan" his remarks. He was reacting to what was obvious to anybody who watched Bill's interview with Letterman.


Bill's interview was cringe-worthy.... and Chris Rock saw what EVERYONE else who saw the show saw.


You've got your head buried in some hole in the ground. If you were honest with yourself, YOU would've been cringing during that.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

35. I agree we got to keep it a secret that B*** C****** has Hubrisheimer's.

Shhhh.

[CreekDog]

57. oh i see, one DU poster will make this newsworthy, but Chris Rock wouldn't have on his own

whatever.

you're a goofball. you just like taking that side, for whatever reason, I don't know.

and besides, most of us have noticed that Hillary is doing a wonderful job and is being gracious beyond what most people could pull off.

but Bill Clinton, he's not.

during the primaries, everytime I saw Bill, I was less inclined to vote for her, when I saw her own her own, I was more inclined to vote for her. now consider that i was never a fan of hers and was a huge fan of his. yet i thought she was a better and more likable candidate on her own and in her own right than with him.

[dionysus]

102. maybe when bubba learns not to say stupid shit we'll stop being pissed.

you may continue to worship his washed up ass as you wish.

[Cha]

10. Oh NO he didn't! I love Chris Rock..

"She lost to some black guy that nobody had ever heard of! Get over it!"

Is that not the crux of it? Did Bill Clinton know Chris Rock was going to follow him on Letterman?:evilgrin:

[medeak]

29. Bill even said Biden was right about Hillary being good vp pick

Rather than take the high road and say Biden was a humble guy....

This was worse than the View this am. What a relief that Rock came on and nailed exactly what we all were thinking.

[Cha]

55. Bill is being a little puma$$..

Bill's confused and thank the Universe we have Chris Rock to wrap up Bill's day for us:evilgrin:

[ccharles000]

17. More Bill bashing does no one any good.

[scheming daemons]

19. Well.. then he's got to stop doing things that are bash-worthy....

[ccharles000]

30. I do not think he did anything wrong.

[scheming daemons]

34. Go get a transcript. at least three praises of McCain for every mention of Obama.

Chris Rock was able to see through it... did you actually watch?

[ccharles000]

48. He said Obama would win.

And I don't think any good will come out of tearing open old wounds.

[Ichingcarpenter]

52. He is tearing the wounds..... He is! Get it?

Don't give me that shit its us...... Bill is tearing the wounds

[ccharles000]

59. I respectfully disagree.

I do not believe he did any wrong. I will leave you with hugs and hope that tomorrow I will see no anti-Clinton threads.

[endthewar]

66. anti-Bill, not anti-Clinton threads

It's important to separate Hillary from this mess. She has done a great job as a surrogate. We just need to get Bill on board. He's ruining the good Clinton name. Hillary needs to slap some sense into him tonight. She already had to cover for him last month in that interview where he pointed out that the Constitution determines if someone is ready to be President.

[dkf]

91. I don't think you realize how much harm he is doing to Hillary.

He has lost any chance of Hillary getting the black vote ever. At this rate, he will get Hillary a big time challenger for her Senate seat.

[ccharles000]

93. What did he say that was racist?

[dkf]

96. Who said he was racist?

Its just that he can't seem to support Obama with any visible enthusiasm. Obama's nomination is a big deal to people like me.

I tell you this truly though...I saw a black kid a few months ago in a store, and for some reason it hit me that he could be President some day. I was struck by this hope I suddenly felt that anyone could do anything.

I won't let Bill Clinton take that away from me. And make no mistake...he hurts us when he is so lackluster.

You may think that it doesn't matter what he does, or how he comes across but other people care even if you don't.

[endthewar]

61. Agreed. I could give a better endorsement of Obama.

Even when Bill Clinton said that he thought Obama would win, it looked like he had to actively debate the question in his head. Hillary needs to throw his ass out of the bedroom and make him sleep on the cold, hard kitchen floor for a week. She's our last hope in reaching inside Bill Clinton's head and making him get it. Watching Senate hearings, it looks like Dems have been in pure hell the past couple of years. They're forced to spend most of their time figuring out what the hell Bush is messing up now, holding hearings to find out exactly how corrupt he is, and then having virtually no power to make Bush change. If Bill wishes that kind of life for Hillary for the next 4 years, then he should just continue like he's doing now.

[endthewar]

36. Agreed. But he didn't do much right either.

The best way to sum up the interview is that if you didn't know which Party Bill Clinton was in, you wouldn't be able to tell from this one interview. :( Keep in mind that the election is only a few weeks away and the first debate is 3 days away. No rush Bill. Just come on board whenever you feel like it. :eyes:

[juajen]

95. After the way Obama treated Bill Clinton and his Presidency

in the primaries, Obama deserves no more than Bill is giving, and, frankly, taking that into consideration, Bill has been more than kind. It is not usual for past Presidents to actively campaign in a presidential election. I believe a speech or two are all that is usually required or expected by past presidents. If I'm wrong, I'm sure some people can come up with examples.

Because Bill is a very popular political figure, and because of his active Foundation work, he will appear on many shows. He is the Foundation's spokesman and they do great things. As mentioned before, his Foundation meets in NY at the same time as the UN, so this is why he made all the talk shows. He was not there to promote Obama.

The problem is that Obama supporters want him to shout "Obama" from the rooftops, even after a contentious primary with his wife as the other candidate. They want this because he is so popular. They imagine that Bill Clinton never read some of the crap written about him and his wife by his own party. Gee, he must be crazy not to want to go all out for a man who called him a racist, and said basically nothing about the man ever being President until the primary was over. It was a stupid thing to do because he is tremendously popular and is the best democratic politician in years and years. Obama and his supporters made their bed, and you know the rest of that cliche.

[Forkboy]

97. We're all in the same bed now. It's called the Democratic Party.

[Raineyb]

105. Bill Clinton is not the victim in this scenario despite what the delusional may believe

Bill Clinton behaved horribly during the primaries and has more than deserved the scorn heaped upon him. That notwithstanding, the last I checked Clinton is a Democrat if he can't enthusiastically support the Democratic nominee then he needs to STFU about the election. The stakes are too high to deal with his whiny, petulant bullshit.

I have no idea why the hell you'd expect Obama to heap praise upon Bill Clinton during the primaries when he was running against the man's wife. Was Obama supposed to sabotage his own chances to win in order to worship Clinton? You sound ridiculous.

Regards

[AzNick]

76. I don't think he did either

Bill Clinton needs to go 100%, full throttle, ball to the wall, pedal to the metal.

He's got to stop saying positive things about the Repug ticket.

I mean, they trashed his own daughter and now he says nice things about Palin and her family. Sorry, but this is no time for being nice.

[Ichingcarpenter]

22. Bill is the issue

Millions and millions watch.

[vaberella]

27. I completely agree with you. But BC is turning into another Prince Phillippe.

Someone you keep in a closet and don't let out. I feel him added to the HRC Camp (not herself) cost her the election. He did her no positive service and should be kept shut.

I'm not saying by what he said on tv today was bad...I'm just expressing my views as a whole, of him throughout the GE and primaries.

I prefer HRC and any of his other surrogates speaking for him. As for Chris Rock, he's a loud mouth punk who irks me at times.

[medeak]

21. IT WAS HYSTERICAL!!

Rock said exactly what my husband and I were thinking watching Bill.

BE SURE TO WATCH LEFT COASTERS!

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[TooRaLoo]

28. Thank you, Chris Rock!

Bill has been "ambiguous" lately, and it's pissing me off.

[NYC_SKP]

32. Bill just suffers from "Lack of Win"

:rofl:

[4lbs]

33. Hillary is doing her best for Obama, but it seems Bill is sinking Obama like he did Hillary.

Two appearances, and two lukewarm-at-best endorsements of Obama, while being much more supportive of McCain and Palin.

I guess when it's not about him he doesn't want to toe the line.

At this point, the Obama campaign should just tell Slick Willie to stay at home and make sandwiches for Hillary and "that black guy whose name you have trouble saying".

[scheming daemons]

38. I agree... Hillary has been FANTASTIC for Obama.... Bill has been horrible

[endthewar]

40. Hillary should be doing the media rounds, not Bill Clinton.

She's a much better surrogate plus she is much more popular than Bill right now since she had been campaigning for so long across the entire nation.

[slinkerwink]

45. She actually is doing the media rounds tomorrow morning

[endthewar]

51. Yeah, but it'll be harder for her now.

Everybody will want to talk about Bill Clinton's appearances the day before.

[JeffR]

42. It depends on what the meaning of the word "endorse" is...

:hide:

[endthewar]

49. LOL!

:spank:

[Ichingcarpenter]

63. Exactly... notice on the view when Joy asked him who he supported he said

He looked down and they up and said I support the Democratic party!

He didn't fricking say Obama, he said the democratic party!

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[slinkerwink]

43. Hillary's definitely outshining Bill on this

[juajen]

98. For the third time, these appearances were not for Obama.

They were made for The Clinton Foundation. It's annual meeting is in New York this week at the same time as the UN. This was done on purpose, as he explained, because so many people would already be in town, so they could get better attendance that way.

Perhaps a little leg work would be nice before you post.

BTW, nobody tells Bill Clinton where he can appear and who with. He's a popular speaker and shows are thrilled when he accepts invitations to appear.

[TheKentuckian]

50. What the fuck difference does it make what someone says about Bill?

He is at this stage, whatever he was or did in the past, a resource. The resource has been a mixed bag, at best so far. Right now the only concern is the nominee and his VP, Bill is a soldier now and he needs to get behind the general, just as others backed him up 110%.

Often, he is being like we selected Alan Combs to be a surrogate. Clinton is one of the best ever and he can certainly help sell Obama to people that listen to him but it comes out more that its OK to vote for McCain, he's not our guy and we have some disagreements but its not a bad thing to elect him, just not the best.

So far Clinton is being dangerously ineffective as a surrogate since he hit it out of the park in Denver. We know what Clinton is capable of and we know he's not giving it anywhere near his best. Complimenting McCain and Palin IS NOT GOING TO GET US VOTES, not without some lumber behind the compliments and he's not going to get us votes by not SPECIFICALLY and FULL THROATILY endorsing Obama. Not Obama's policies, not the platform, not Joe Biden, but THE INDIVIDUAL BARACK OBAMA.

If you feel this is a bash, then your skin is too thin. I don't think its crazy at all to see what I've said as a reasonable assessment, not necessarily everyone will agree with but just the way I see it.

[endthewar]

56. Bill should just go around giving his Convention speech as his stump message

That and wear an Obama sticker and nobody will complain about him.

[mzmolly]

60. He incorrectly stated that Clinton didn't say Barack's name, but he was

complimentary of Mr. C as well saying how smart he was and how they were friendly etc. Rock was funny while he commented on Bill still promoting Hillary in a sense, but he did it in a way that got the point across without being offensive.

[vaberella]

64. As I've said before...Clinton is our own Prince Phillippe.

We just can't let that one out of the closet and near a mike. When he gets near it, he's far less interested in promoting everyone else than really just enjoying the limelight. To tell you the truth that's what I see a lot of the time. This sense of entitlement of the stage, he likes the attention and I can't blame it since he has the charisma in spades. However, much like the way he was not helpful to his wife throughout the primaries..I feel he is not good for Obama post the Primaries. He needs a good vacation in Bora Bora.

[goclark]

99. To me it seems that he has changed since the Heart Surgery

:shrug:

Maybe the surgery reactions causes him to get sleepy~ like the time that he feel asleep sitting by the pulpit on the Celebration of MLKing Day. I can't seem to get that vision out of my head. I never saw him fall asleep before at such an important occasion.

Maybe the surgery causes him to have mood swings ~ like tonight when he forgot to really praise Obama.

He did remember to praise him the night he spoke at the convention ~ wonder why he didn't stay in that same mode?

:shrug:

:shrug:

[Sebass1271]

68. I just don't understand... When have you ever

seen Ruddy Giulianni on David Letterman or any other Republican ex-president, congressmen, senators, talking heads etc etc praised any of our own?

N E V E R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and Bill Clinton has spent the entire day today doing what republicans wont do. This morning i was very upset at him but tonight i am really fuming.. I am throwing his book out.. Lost all respect for him. if he can't be a good Democrat, then, he should removed himself from the party. Really. It is really sad what he is doing and to think that when barack obama went to the Letterman show, Obama praised him and clearly said " I need him" "We need him"..

How can we win when one of our own is destroying us? How can Bill jeopardise our future like that? I am really hurting.. he was the first president i cast my first vote for when I became a U.S. Citizen and I did it with so much hope, he has really let me down.

:cry:

[endthewar]

70. There, there now.

:hug:

The hands of the American people are here to help Obama, whether or not Bill Clinton wants to.

[Cha]

74. Obama has class and Bill Clinton

doesn't.

[NYC_SKP]

71. OMG, DU this PBS Poll: Is Sarah Palin qualified to be Vice President? HURRY!

:rofl:

The Rickroll of Polls...

[Skip Intro]

73. You know, I really don't give a damn what Chris Rock has to say about Bill Clinton.

everything to him is a matter of black vs white - screw that

and vick is in jail because he's one sick mf who belongs in jail - don't see a damn thing funny about animal cruelty, sorry...eh, no, I'm not sorry

[endthewar]

75. Chris Rock was the only person willing to endorse Obama on Letterman tonight

[scheming daemons]

81. Sad, isn't it?

[nichomachus]

79. How dare he be concerned about black people!

The nerve. The gall. Black people have no problems in the US. Rock should just shut up and tell funny jokes about puppy dogs.

[endthewar]

82. Awww

[Skip Intro]

89. oh brother - faux outrage...it's been awhile - Maybe Obama should have Chris Rock take Bill's place

on the campaign trail...

Never happen, know why? He's a fucking divisive moron who thinks every fucking issue boils down to black vs white. He is anti-unity, as he proved early on. And a sympathy joke for animal torturer vick? You go ahead and salivate ok, I'll pass.

[dkf]

94. I can't believe you are defending Sarah Palin's sick treatment

of wolf pups.

I think I want to throw up.

[Skip Intro]

104. What disingenuous bullshit.

I'd want to throw up too after posting such crap.

[nichomachus]

100. Are you talking about Bill here?

He's a fucking divisive moron who thinks every fucking issue boils down to black vs white. He is anti-unity, as he proved early on.

If so, you've nailed it.

[Raineyb]

106. Chris Rock comes across a lot smarter than you do

Shooting wolves from helicopters is as sick as any dog torture but you're so busy making excuses for Clinton that you're bashing Chris Rock who at least didn't praise McLame/Failin' while barely managing to say anything nice about the Democratic nominee.

Right now Chris Rock is doing a lot better than Bill Clinton's sorry ass which is saying a lot since Chris Rock isn't a representative of the party in the first place.

And for the record there is no evidence that ignoring the black/white thing has done this country any bloody good but if you're happy with your head in the sand so be it.

Regards

[Cha]

84. Yeah, too bad we give a fuck what Bill Clinton has

to say about the election this year..I can't wait until he just fucking fades away.

[Skip Intro]

85. But he better get out there and work hard for Obama before you toss him from the party, eh?

sheesh...

[Cha]

90. That's a stupid way

to think.

[renate]

103. well, he at least ought to do one of two things

1) Stop praising McCain/Palin

and/or

2) Quit damning Obama/Biden with faint praise

If he can't do either one, he really ought to pipe down until the election is over, if only because he's (still!) not doing his wife any favors by flapping his gums and getting loyal Democrats mad at him.

[nichomachus]

78. The biggest mistake is that

people start from the assumption that Bill Clinton and George Bush work for different people. They work for the same people -- the corporatocracy. They're just in different divisions of the same company.

It's like the guy in charge of Tide and the guy in charge of Ivory Snow. They compete for sales on the grocery shelves, but they both work for Proctor and Gamble.

[endthewar]

83. "just in different divisions of the same company"

Excellent analogy! :patriot:

[tomg]

87. Quite honestly, had Bill Clinton

written on this board what he had said on Letterman, most of us ( including me) would be waiting for him to get the granite pizza. At best, it was damning with faint praise. Rock did hold Clinton's feet to the fire. It was funny, incisive, and and honest. Letterman seemed uncomfortable. On the one hand, Rock was busting chops on a former president who Letterman liked having as a guest. On the other hand, the juxtaposition was clearly good and tense television.

[Raschel]

92. They shoot wolves, don't they?

"Michael Vick must be asking himself, "Why am I in jail?"

That's hilarious! And a great point. Sarah Palin shoots canines from a helicopter and leaves them to suffer, brags about it, AND gets selected as VP candidate. Shouldn't she be in jail?