***GOP Rumor: McCain will Replace Palin Soon ***

This is some political gossip and scuttlebutt that I would normally dismiss except the people that relayed it to me are good friends even though we don't see eye to eye politically and they are well connected in the Texas Republican Party. It seems to be the rumor going around with some well connected Republics here in town that McCain will very soon replace Palin. They are saying that Palin is becoming a "dragging anchor" for McCain and they cannot take any more chances. These are mega-money people in Texas that are involved with apparently a new search (or maybe the new replacement using the past search list) for a VP for McCain.

McCain is apparently getting big time pressure to replace Palin and it's possible there will be an announcement next week on a Palin replacement. No one here is saying much more than McCain will likely replace Palin. Speculation centers around Romney as the replacement as Romney would be taken much more seriously than Palin is now.

They also fear that the troopergate scandal is taking on a life of it's own and that they will lose control of it soon.

I'll pass on more as it becomes available.

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edit to correct spelling.

He did KNOWINGLY lie about WMD's.

You can take that to the BANK! Barack is like the son Powell never had.

NOTHING he would do would surprise me.

It shows how horrible his judgment was in choosing her to begin with. It would be political suicide.

and Sarah will tearfully take the top spot. I wonder how much of a sympathy vote she might attract?

They have been all aglow with the wonderment of Sarah and her divine appointment... it has basically what has shepherded them all back to the fold. If I were a spiteful sort of person, I would be positively gleeful if she did get replaced... hee hee

I don't care who McSame puts in there instead of Palin. The REPUKES are gonna lose.

but it would be amusing.

I don't have any in my cupboard, and it seems like a really good time for some. Appreciate it!

I just went out to get some more when I saw how long this thread has become.

Not being a jerk--I'm genuinely curious.

and that not voting is not in the list of options either. They're starting to panic because McCain is slipping quickly in the polls. They are going to act before it gets completely out of hand.

It ain't happening. If you really are hearing this rumor and not just making it up for your own amusement, somebody else is having some fun with you.

It wouldn't be surprising at all that McCain's post-announcement vetting team in Alaska has discovered information that would blow her out of the water. I can't see Troopergate doing this. But there could be plenty of other ugly skeletons. If they have found something ugly and don't think they can keep a lid on it, then your rumor makes perfect sense. Their only way forward would be to get it over ASAP while they still have 6 weeks left.

But really, if that happens, it is over anyway. The news media would be talking about the scandal, whatever it is, for two weeks. Then the talk would turn to McCain's poor judgment for two weeks, and then the election would be upon them.

wouldn't do its best to spin it though. How big scary bawak chased the loving mother out of politics. And then do their best to hype the new guy, whoever it is.

...the debates.

They know she's totally incapable, and that she would just embarrass McCain and the entire
Republican ticket.

Remember, these things are set up with wusses for moderators who are only interested in dividing the time equally. They will never press any candidates when they give goofy answers. And the format never allows either candidates to challenge the other directly.

They are not debates. They are a peculiar form of commingled, joint press conference.

Let's see how big her pouf is on debate day.

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Yeah, we get that they are a family of wacko fundie hillbillies who like to drink and screw way too much. In that sense, this story doesn't change anything. But it could be that the Enquirer has other leads they are following that are getting too hot to handle for the McCain people trying to do damage control in Anchorage.

My guess is that if there was a hotter story brewing, we would have heard something by now.

The Republican Party's nomination of John Snidely McCain as their presidential nominee!

I'm not sure anyone else can uplift his withered image and make him more appealing.

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would look weak in the eys of the electorate.

It will make things worse for him, not better.
Palin energized the religious nut base. Once she's gone, they've lost these guys but will still have their money to campaign with.

he can't be trusted to make good decisions at all

However, Ms. Palin is so power hungry that I suspect she WILL NOT FALL ON HER OWN SWORD.



Potential nightmare in the making for the GOP. Don't you love it!

He lost the confidence of even George Will over his ridiculous call to fire Chris Cox.

He bounced around on AIG.

Then he lapses into bombastic populism.

What a tool.

care about a debate.

better to set up Romney or someone like him as head of the party so that they can start building for a rebound.

especially if the ticket sinks like a rock. He'd be better off keeping his distance.

I think this is a ridiculous rumor.

Dumping Palin would enrage McCain's base, and he can't afford that.

Stupid rumor, IMO.

the vp position and "puckhead" would be running for prez.

If he dumps her, it will remind people of his poor judgement. That's bad just 6 weeks from the election.

keeping her is his best chance. They spent to much effort making her a hero to conservative wing nuts..he would loose more than he would gain and look weaker in the bargin.

just be another Repuke), it'll make him look bad for making a pathetic choice in the first place. As we keep saying about so many issues, what if the Dems did that? Can you imagine the ridicule from their side? What if Chelsea had been pregnant when Bill was running?!? ... etc.

Those people want to throw you in jail just for playing a few games of poker online...lol

The neat thing about this is - regardless whether it's a rumor or not - it's ALWAYS useful to spread this stuff around.

DESTABILIZE THE ENEMY. Or as LBJ would have said, after throwing out some lame accusation he knew wasn't true - "make 'em deny it!"

If it's a good rumor, juicy, even semi-possible (moneyed republi-CONS behind this might add a little credibility since money always talks rather loudly and decisively with these people), then it SHOULD be spread. If we can help sow the seeds of uproar, turbulence, disruption, discord, and other unhappy discomforts, it will help to further knock them off their game. The seeds of discontent. They're so solidly in lockstep all the time, but this is one way in which we can help chip away at that solidarity.


EVERY IMAGINABLE OPPORTUNITY, EVERY IMAGINABLE TACTIC - should be considered and then, implemented.

DESTABILIZE THE ENEMY, especially when the enemy's poll numbers are starting to get shaky. That's already done some of our work for us. We just need to build on it.

DESTABILIZE THE ENEMY. Make 'em crazy. Make 'em toss and turn at night. Make reaching for the Maalox bottle the first thing they do in the morning. Make reaching for the scotch bottle the last thing they do when they get home at night (and at all intervals in between). Make them shaky, nervous, miserable, upset, and bickering amongst themselves.

DESTABILIZE THE ENEMY. WHETHER THE RUMORS ARE TRUE OR NOT. All you do is wind up giving them more headaches, which is a VERY GOOD thing.

And if it just might be true, or it has even small shades of truth in it, so much the better! This might go a long way to making it true. And somehow, it'll get out on the blogs and in the media and soon enough, either way, you'll have headlines that read "mcsame Campaign in Disarray" - which is exactly what we want. THEN, you start spreading the meme - "gee, disarray, 'eh? THAT'S the hand you want on the wheel as we steer through the rough seas ahead? Uh -- don't think so!

We MUST show them no mercy. Especially since that's what we'd get back from them if the situation were reversed. Meantime, Barack sails above it all, cool, calm, collected, thoughtful, reasoned, in control, even presidential. And we spread THAT meme, too. You want your tumult and insanity and upheaval over there in that camp? Or you want calm, thoughtful, very together, and presidential? Into whose hands would YOU feel more confident entrusting the fate of our nation?

DESTABILIZE THE ENEMY. AT EVERY TURN. EVERY CHANCE WE GET.

as they are with Palin.

Can Romney learn to in a week?

I am a recovering ex-mormon. Technically, it is in their articles of faith that speaking in tongues is a "gift" for the faithful, but I never saw or heard of anyone actually doing it.

and it makes him look like a fool (I know he already did but just to the left, doing this will make the right think so too) for picking her in the 1st place

and this could just be wishful thinking on the corporatists.

those two factions. The "corporate types" feel they've lost too much control and are pushing back very hard. The word is they've convinced McCain to make the switch I think they feel McCain's first loyalty is to them anyway.

McCain has a slim chance of winning this thing, but it's a chance nonetheless. If he replaces Palin, that chance goes right out the window and Obama will win in a landslide comparable to what Nixon saw in 1972.

No way, this close to the election, can McCain spin dropping Palin. It will show him as lacking judgment and it'll result in a near-sweep for Obama.

mentality that made him pick Palin to begin with. Make no mistake. They are extremely desperate.

It'd be like bunting on your last out of the ninth down 2 runs.

than admit a mistake.

If anything, McCain is dragging her down.
Any replacement at all would effectively sink the repukes.
Not gonna happen.

other scandals that could be much more damaging. We have seen how she operates. She could have all sorts of other official or personal scandals in her background that have only now reached McCain. That is the only way this thing makes sense. Has the Enquirer come out with anything else recently?

That would shake things up, but either way it would seem to be a win for us.

And ask for a do-over? WTF? No way. He's stuck with her now.

...about the prime minister of Spain, then they won't admit that a major decision like VP nominee was a mistake.

to try to delay or tamper with the election... I put nothing past them normally, much less when they are totally desperate with nothing to lose....

He's the drag on the ticket.

I think the political risk of dumping Palin outweigh the risk of keeping her. Well, until troopergate explodes.

No way. He can't appear anywhere without her. If he dumps her his crowds will diminish to monthly PTA meeting size.

You can.

On intrade. You will actually only make $60K if you are right, because those are the odds.

But the market is open.

is running.

Pailin is the only thing keeping McLiar in the race...

mistakes! Can you even imagine the tsunami in the media against McNuts & the Party if he ever did that? Naw, it ain't happenin.

and a helluva lot of money too.

that were lost in the market this past week sure as hell didn't come from MY POCKET! There's a lot of people who THOUGHT they were pretty rich and had lots of $$ to throw around had a bit of a personal earthquake!

If they were smart, they'd put Carribou Barbie atop the ticket and get Cheney to come back for a 3rd veep appearance.

I have been thinking the same thing for some time. They will spin it as a brave sacrifice to spend more time with her family.


Romney would be the obvious choice and with an economic meltdown in full gear people won't care that he is Mormon.

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It would of course make it almost impossible for them to win in November but it would put into place a natural party leader so that they could start to rebuild for 2012 rather than go through another bruising primary effort. I am sure that there are Republicans who would now give their right arm to have Romney on the ticket at any cost even if it meant that they were going to lose (which they probably already feel that they are anyway).

Interesting speculation probably unlikely but I am sure that there are serious Republicans who are thinking it.

there are a few things that the pukes will benefit from. They will have the Palin albatross off their necks, they will catch Biden somewhat off guard with the last minute switch before the debates, and they will push a candidate who is very well versed in the economy into the race at a time when the economy is the most crucial element of this entire campaign.

I thought the deadline for changing ballots has already come and gone, but the pukes would no doubt find a way around this. They would potentially alienate their base that fawns over the moose, leaving McLiar to draw the big crowds.

I've read hints that this might happen since she was selected, and thus far, nothing has materialized. I don't think there is any way that she can leave this race without causing great harm to the puke ticket. Place me in the very skeptical camp.

needs more care... Trig is special needs anyway. It could work. it would be consistent with the image they're trying to cultivate for her and then she's available in 2012.

They will come up with some medical emergency = most likely the baby's - and then it will look legit and even draw sympathy. Plus babies with Down's syndrome often need heart surgery, so it could even be true. And maybe they knew it going in and just wanted to use her to get the fundie vote anyway and be able to dump her on demand.

Who in their right mind would want to spend more time with that family?

Ugh.

citing personal reasons?

his personal squeeze at this point.

He can't dump her any more than he can fire the head of the SEC.

He would have to go to the RNC and get THEM to boot her off the ticket. That's not going to happen.

This was discussed the week of the puke convention when all the crap about Bristol was leaking out. It was noted that McCain could drop her up until she was nominated formally at the convention. Once she was nominated, only the party could replace her.


TG

http://keystoneprogress.blogspot.com/2008/09/just-in-ca...

quoting from

http://www.gop.com/About/AboutRead.aspx?Guid=a4cc4fcb-6...


RULE NO. 9 Filling Vacancies in Nominations

(a) The Republican National Committee is hereby authorized and empowered to fill any and all vacancies which may occur by reason of death, declination, or otherwise of the Republican candidate for President of the United States or the Republican candidate for Vice President of the United States, as nominated by the national convention, or the Republican National Committee may reconvene the national convention for the purpose of filling any such vacancies.

(b) In voting under this rule, the Republican National Committee members representing any state shall be entitled to cast the same number of votes as said state was entitled to cast at the national convention.

(c) In the event that the members of the Republican National Committee from any state shall not be in agreement in the casting of votes hereunder, the votes of such state shall be divided equally, including fractional votes among the members of the Republican National Committee present or voting by proxy.

(d) No candidate shall be chosen to fill any such vacancy except upon receiving a majority of the votes entitled to be cast in the election.

They know his health is precarious and they don't want Sarah Palin in charge of their financial future.

This actually makes more sense now that I think of it.

It is obvious that she is a putz & a nutjob Fundie that is loved by the RW Fundies. Swing Voters are most likely to vote for Sen. Obama & Sen. Biden. Unless something surfaces that forces her to resign she will not do so & McLiar won't force her out.

.....on fatcat rethuglicans financial future? You gotta be kidding. They'd put a ring through the her nose and lead her around any way they wanted.

that they would actually do it at this point in the game. But yeah, they have to be thinking wtf are their options.

the "problem" is troopergate. Rmember Bush's DUI in 2000? This will be worse, the evangelicals will be digusted, feel betrayed, and then what's the point of her?

They will have to do this, or be buried worse than if they change. They've been holding off as long as they could, hoping to turn the stories. They can't. Palin is liar, hell she mainlines the stuff. I think she pulled a lot of wool over people's eyes during the selection process, and now the damage control just can't keep up with it. Watching their campaign, desparate for energy, commit all the resources it has to just getting her into the mainstream, it's no way to run a race.

She is heading toward political suicide.

and as fun as it would be to watch them implode even more, I'm not buying it.

How bad could that be, considering how awful his first choice was?

And damn it, I like it.

"Is McCain thinking about dumping Palin? You decide"

If he dumps her, he loses the female vote he's been courting. If he picks Rommney, he loses the evangelicals. If he goes with LIEberman he'll lose the independants. He has no where to turn.

He would:

- Lose the Christian Right base immediately
- Be seen as careless on judgement
- Put his campaign into a tailspin with staff shakeup
- Have Palin on the loose ready to attack him

Hopefully, McCain jettisons here mid-October and will thus never recover.

that started slipping mid to late last week. My first thought was that it would hurt McCain more than anything. They never do anything without a well-orchestrated plan and a damn good reason. Especially with the stakes in this election.

It would look horrible for McCain to switch his VP. It would show bad judgment on his part. If he couldn't make the right VP choice, who knows if he will make the right decisions in the future. The only way Palin will be removed is if the "troopergate" scandal really, really destroys her image.

Romney is the only person I see being picked as a replacement since there's even less time until the election and he's really the only well known, realistic possibility. I would love having Mitt as VP because I know he would come here to Michigan to try to feed us some BS about how he's one of us...even though he left the first chance he got and hasn't lived here in 40 years. Having Michigan vote against the "hometown boy" would be great.

Can McCain even remove her after she has been officially nominated? Anyway, I just don't see it happening.

unless Palin were willing to say it were her decision. I don't get the feeling this will happen.

The reasons are:
1) It would solidify in many minds a concern for McCain's judgment.
2) The replacement would have to be as liked by the evangelical voters (which ruled out many good choices.
3) The choice might have to be a woman (not sure on this)
4) There is almost no time to introduce a new VP so it has to be someone very well known.

As to Powell and Rice. I doubt Powell will work for the evangelicals. Rice makes the "third term of Bush" attack work even better than it does. Once nominated, it may be political suicide to replace the VP, especially if she has gained supporters. To see this, turn it to a Democratic situation.

Though there were no scandals, imagine the disaster if in early September, Gore thought Leiberman was a drag and removed him. I know it would have had a negative impact - at least among Jews. (I am one.) Or, if that doesn't work, Shrum said that he thought Kerry wished he hadn't picked Edwards when Edwards wouldn't take direction. Tell me how quickly that would have sunk Kerry.

by the RNC, not that he did the choosing himself. It was such an obvious ploy to appeal to the fundamentalist base and to try and siphon off women from the Democrats.

For Sarah's political future in Alaska, it would be great if McCain dumped her. The longer she stays on the ticket, with McCain's goons here running our state, the more she is being damaged. If I were her, I would jump ship now, head on home and start answering questions, as she promised to do when the abuse-of-power investigation started. With a little kissing up here at home she could probably salvage her career.

I'd be shocked if this happened. Palin has rallied the frothing-at-the-mouth right-wingers to McCain, there's no way he'd throw that away. Such a shake-up (a very massive, VERY public shake-up) would also make voters question McCain's judgment and temperament...he'd appear to be disorganized and rash.

Too liberal.

I think that'd be the only real chance he has of winning.

David

with outrage at how such a joke of a pick is being imposed on the American people. If they aren't really going to replace her, make them wish they had.

It's turned into into a bizarre circus... or should I say carnival?

But I don't see it happening, because it would be the end of McCain poltically among women and evangelicals.

And it would call into question his judgment at a very late date.

It is disastrous to replace a VP candidate. It means admitting you messed up on your first major decision.

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She holds all the cards. The doddering old fart would be 20 points down without her presence on the ticket. Yeah, it's tough that as people get to know what a fucking whack job she is, that advantage will be (is) disappearing, but for the moment, she has the hammer.

I can't see any good coming of it no matter how much of a drag she is to the ticket.

I hope he does it!

But, I don't think he will.

or the reanimated corpse of Reagan.
Short of that, it'd be the stupidest move possible, aside from the fact that he picked palin to begin with :-P

are but modern day money changers looting the Temple of Democracy.

mike kohr

Love, compassion, generosity, forgiveness, charity, equality. There's no way that RW evangelical fundamentalists would elect Jesus to anything.

"In light of the current economic crisis I have asked Sarah Palin to step down as my VP and chosen a candidate who is more experienced in the area of economics"

He may have a chance with another vice...But on the positive side, if mccain wins, it'll be a bit less scary...

I doubt they could spin that into a non-flipflop he'd lose if he did it so it won't happen.

The way I understand it, she was picked by McCain, but actually NOMINATED by the Republican Party at the convention. She is now THEIR candidate, not his.

Just sayin'. I think it would be GREAT is he tried, though! He thought the president could fire Cox, the SEC chairman, remember?

but it would be suicide for their White House run. They would lose every vote that the Palin nomination gained them, and then some.

Even if it isn't true, as LBJ once said, "I don't care if it isn't true. I just want to hear the son-of-a-bitch deny it!"

NO WAY they replace palin now. How stupid is this?