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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:41 AM
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John McCain just forgot where Spain is...seriously
/snip
...John McCain didn't appear to know that Spain was in Europe, or that the leader of Spain was named Zapatero, even after he was told that Zapatero was the leader of Spain.

When asked about Spain and Zapatero, by a Spanish reporter for a Spanish newspaper, McCain responded about Mexico and Latin America. A reader suggested something that Josh had already considered, that perhaps McCain thought the reporter was talking about the Zapatistas in Mexico, the guerilla group. But that's not possible as the reporter clearly said she was talking about Spain and Spain's leader, Zapatero. She told McCain this twice. Let me tell you exactly what she asked McCain (per the translation):

"Senator, finally, let's talk about Spain. If you're elected president, would you invite President Zapatero to meet with you in the White House?"

McCain then gives this odd answer about America's friends and America's enemies. He also, oddly, talks about Mexico (why Mexico? The question was about Spain) and how he'd invite friendly leaders to the White House. She then asks him again, would that invitation include President Zapatero? He says again that he'd have to review relations first, blah blah. She then says again, "so you'd have to wait to see, so would you meet with him in the White House?" He again repeats his weird statement about friends and enemies. McCain also throws in, oddly, to the Spanish reporter, when she's asking him about meeting the Spanish president, a line about the importance of our relationship with Latin America (this is now the second time he answered a question about meeting the president of Spain with an answer about Latin America). She then says to McCain one last time:

"Okay, but I'm talking about Europe - the president of Spain, would you meet with him?"

This time, there was no room for confusion. McCain then gives this very bizarre answer:

"I will meet with any leader who has the same principles and philosophy as us in terms of human rights, democracy, and freedom and I will stand up to those who do not."


more
http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/john-mccain-just-forget-where-spain-was.html
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:45 AM
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1. OMG, he's as programmed as Palin is!
I guess whenever he's asked about meeting foreign leaders, that is his stock answer.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:48 AM
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4. Yep, I think he's cracking
He probably thought he'd dodged a bullet, but that vague reply only made his confusion look worse.

I don't see him holding up well under the rigorous campaign schedule he has ahead of him. He can't even count on Gov. Palin to continue to draw heat for him as she is beginning to unravel as well.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:47 AM
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2. OMG!
He is clueless. Reporters should start playing "Stump the Chump"

He has no clue who our allies are. SPAIN?!?!? He can't answer a question about SPAIN?!??

This is insulting. He should go to the old folks home.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:40 AM
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21. Sorry but your post made me laugh out loud
People around me are staring, but you captured perfectly my incredulity that the man running to be "leader of the free world" can't freakin' find SPAIN on a map. (Honestly, dude, it's not a trick question.)
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agentS Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:47 AM
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3. Wonderful- he just forgot Spain is a NATO ally
Talking Points Memo is also all over this. There's no way he can spin this as not hearing the question right.
McCain is showing massive signs of senility/Alzheimer's and now there's no hiding it.
He's hit his intellectual wall already and now he's on the slippery slope down.

And just think...the Republicans could have picked Ron Paul...
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Celebrandil Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:49 AM
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5. When was it conducted?
Does anyone know when that interview was conducted? Is it recent? McCain might have attended some geography classes lately.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:57 AM
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7. According to the Spanish paper, Pres. Zapatero was asked to comment on this interview "yesterday"
So, sometime in the last twenty-four hours, I suppose. I live across the International Date Line and so have trouble with "yesterday" in news reports.

Link to Spanish paper:
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internacional/candidato/republicano/compromete/ver/Zapatero/gana/elpepiint/20080918elpepiint_9/Tes
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Celebrandil Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:15 AM
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11. Thank you.
Thank you very much. I wish I knew spanish. Unbelievable.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:35 AM
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17. Babelfish is our friend in these types of situations - Link here:
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 07:36 AM by nc4bo
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/

Not perfect but enough for you to get a good idea of what's going on :D
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:44 AM
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42. translated to English...
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:50 AM
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6. Holy shit.LMAO.K & R!
:rofl:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:04 AM
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8. McCain appears to be dangerously uninformed and tends to see things in black and white--a hardliner.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:00 AM
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27. Agreed, but this appears to go way beyond uninformed. How do you reach
age 72 thinking Spain is part of Latin America? My point is, I don't think he spoke out of ignorance but out of having lost his freakin' marbles. This I think is worse than the Czechoslovakia and Iraq-Pakistan border stuff, and it needs a lot of attention.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:05 AM
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9. It's somewhere between Pakistan and Czechoslovakia, isn't it?
or was it Prussia? Hmmm...
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:33 AM
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37. I though it was along the Iraq-Afghanistan border? nm
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:07 AM
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10. Wow, McCain is really losing it now.
What little of "it" he had left.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:17 AM
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12. His mind is clearly going.
:scared:

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:19 AM
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13. Is there videotape?
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:35 AM
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18. It is a telephone interview
Audio at the link.
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:20 AM
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14. Maybe bush can remind him its above the "country" of Africa. nt
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:24 AM
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15. Politics aside, this is very sad
If this is really accurate, it is mindboggling. On the personal side, I wouldn't wish Alzheimer's on anyone - you lose yourself. If true, it could explain the personality changes and bouts of anger (though here, he seemed prone to them even when young) It can also explain his constant repetition of the Sunni/Shiite mistake even after it was repeatedly corrected. The Debates should be interesting.

If true, there is a dilemma for the Republican party. This is not Reagan where it developed after he was elected, but deliberately putting a leader into office who really can't do the job - at one of the most dangerous times in history. It may be a cynical acceptance that powers behind the scenes will make the decisions.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:43 PM
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56. "cynical acceptance that powers behind the scenes will make the decisions"
that's my best guess, all the rest is circus.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:31 AM
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16. So I wonder how those Presidential debates are going to go? He will need help and will get it. nt
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:36 AM
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19. I guess Palin borrowed his Cliff Notes
And hasn't returned them yet.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:40 AM
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20. What the he**? PLEASE let that be on video. n/t
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:28 AM
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22. No, its a phone interview
Audio at the link.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:43 AM
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23. Ah, thanks. Audio's better than nothing. (even if muddled by translation) n/t
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:11 AM
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30. In big bold letters, it would be easy for viewers to follow the English.
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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:46 AM
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24. Ugh. nt
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:52 AM
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25. Pathetic & embarassing, just like bush.
"where's my buddy lieberman when I need him?" :nopity:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:51 PM
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55. bush redux!
Stuffy ol losers who think they're deciders.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:55 AM
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26. In all fairness, I can see how a Spanish-American war vet could mix that up

He keeps referring to Czechoslovakia too.

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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:12 AM
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32. But he's running for president NOW.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:30 AM
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36. I love that picture of Dr. Maddow.
:-)
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:00 PM
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49. Thanks- she rocks, right?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:51 AM
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45. Well, gee, if you want to get picky

Fine, then YOU go tell him that Francisco Franco died.

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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:00 PM
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48. LOL
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:00 AM
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28. NOT ready to lead
Geebus, republican voters need to get over themselves and do the right thing and cast their vote for Obama.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:02 AM
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29. I have been bookmarking on camera/radio mcCain. gaffes. He is such a toon.
"I will veto beer", "Al Qaida in Iraq", The incoherent response to Ron Paul's debate. And now this one. Too many to mention. StiI have been looking for Chelsea/Jan set Reno joke if it exists.

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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:11 AM
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31. That's sexist!
:P
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:18 AM
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33. He's lossing it real fast.... I think he will crack by weeks end.
Keep up the pressure....
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Chloroplast Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:35 AM
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34. McCain must be obsessed with Mexico.
He brought up their gang-style killings in front of a group Puerto Ricans and now doesn't know the difference between Mexico and Spain? If voters can honestly look at McCain's answers to questions and STILL think he's qualified to be President, my hope for this country is going to tumble faster than the DOW.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:54 AM
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35. McCain should be familiar with the location of Spain. That's where
he was flying when he collided with some power lines with his jet fighter.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:36 AM
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38. I'm sure he's brushing up on his Latin,
since he has to meet all those leaders like Zapatero from Latin America.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:37 AM
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39. As TPM put it...
"The Rain in Spain is falling on McCain." ;-)

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:40 AM
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40. Hey, its McAlzheimer's! Seriously, is he for real?
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 10:41 AM by Jennicut
The guy is losing it, really really losing it. My Grandmother happens to be in the early stages of Alzheimer's and I think I see similar symptoms in McLame. The mixup of Sunni and Shiite in Iraq earlier this year was the start.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:44 AM
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41. Where is the MSM on this issue????? They are hiding his incompetence!!
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:47 AM
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43. TIME has the story online...
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1842156,00.html

'You gotta feel for José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero. Here the Spanish prime minister is only four months from an end to his government's strained relations with that of President George W. Bush and blam! — along comes John McCain to suggest the next four years might not be any better. During an interview in Miami earlier this week with Spanish-language station Union Radio, a reporter asked McCain whether, if elected, he would receive Zapatero in the White House. McCain answered, "Honestly, I have to analyze our relationships, situations, and priorities, but I can assure you that I will establish closer relationships with our friends, and I will stand up to those who want to harm the United States."

Ouch.'
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:50 AM
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44. and the Washington Post online... McCain adviser says it was intentional. Joke's on us I guess! Haha
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 10:51 AM by beat tk
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/18/mccain_slights_spanish_prime_m.html

'The confrontation resulted in mega-headlines around the Spanish speaking world and pitted Chavez, Castro and others against the Spaniards.

So, was McCain purposely trying to diss the Spanish leader? Questions about whether McCain forgot which country Zapatero leads, got confused about Spain's geographic relationship to Latin America, or confused Zapatero with the Zapatista rebels from Mexico have exploded on blogs since reports of the interview first surfaced.

McCain foreign policy adviser Randy Sheunemann said McCain's answer was intentional.

"The questioner asked several times about Senator McCain's willingness to meet Zapatero (and id'd him in the question so there is no doubt Senator McCain knew exactly to whom the question referred). Senator McCain refused to commit to a White House meeting with President Zapatero in this interview," he said in an e-mail.'
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:34 PM
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47. "Okay, but I'm talking about Europe - the president of Spain, would you meet with him?"
No, I don't believe that Sen. McCain would have let the gag go on that far, to the point where the reporter had to remind him that Spain is in Europe.

What fools these GOP'ers take us for!
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:14 AM
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46. McCain's racism is showing.
Someone mentioned Spain, and McCain thought about spanish-speaking people, which made him think of Mexico, so he started talking about our relations with Mexico.

McCain hates Mexicans.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:09 PM
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50. I just heard the clip on CNN - McCain is definitely NOT all there!
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:12 PM
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52. CNN - Rick Sanchez is now interviewing the Spanish reporter
who conducted the interview.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:23 PM
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53. Heard that - she doesn't seem to think he was as confused as he sounded to me.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:11 PM
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51. Guess he's not flying the plane anymore. nt
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donnrfl Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:42 PM
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54. clearly..
this must have been a trick question!!! damn that liberal media!!!



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