Obama is on fire!

[dgibby]

Speaking in Elko,Nv now. Just said to the effect that John McCain calls the Washington old boys network a campaign staff meeting! (not an exact quote, but close)!!!






:rofl:

[buff2]

1. I just LOVE him

He will make a wonderful President.....no doubt about it. :hi:

[Cleita]

2. How is the crowd reacting to him?

Everytime DH and I broke down in Elko and had to stay awhile, I always felt it was hostile territory for liberals and Democrats.

[nc4bo]

14. The crowd is hyped, boisterous and in love with what they see and hear. nt

[Cleita]

17. That's good to hear.

If he has won the hearts of those crusty cattle ranchers, the screw has really turned.

[RamboLiberal]

3. Has he got passion? Tweety was whining last night he lacked passion

[Lex]

6. I wish he could put a boot up Tweet's ass.

And tell him, "There's some passion for you."

[Larkspur]

7. I'll believe Obama has passion when I see it

If he is on "fire" as the poster claims, then it's about freaking time. Maybe he finally got the message to put the professor mantle down and take up the prize fighter one.

[Solomon]

10. You suck up everything the media tells you, dont you?

LOL. Whatever they say, you parrot.

[rebel with a cause]

31. Kudos to you Solomon.

Like your name indicates, you speak wisdom. ;)

[Larkspur]

35. No, I've actually listened to Obama and some of his speeches

Most of them bore me. Once in a while when he goes on the attack, he actually looks good. He looks like a strong and coherent leader when he goes on the attack. When he plays the professor role, he is boring and the flood of "ahs" and "ums" he uses when answering is annoying to listeners.

[Baltoman991]

50. Ya know

you'd probably have more luck pushing this bullshit on a McCain supporter board. People on this board watch and listen for themselves. I don't think the shit you're selling is going to sell well here.

Just a thought.

[Larkspur]

56. I'm a long time DU'er and a donor to DU

There are a lot of Dems not enthusiastic about Obama. Most will vote for him because he has a 'D' after his name. Others won't for various reasons and yes, I know some Dems in my DTC that have racist attitudes and either won't vote at all for President or grudgingly vote for him because he's the Dem nominee.

The idea that every Dem has to be an Obama fanatic is absurd.

[Baltoman991]

90. So

because some, who have racists views and won't vote for Obama, you have to come here and blame him for that? It's his fault because he's half black?

I really don't care what the racist fucks do, and that includes my sister and her husband who have stated they will vote Republican for the first time in their lives because they would never vote for a N word.

But that still doesn't equate to you coming here pissing on ever damn thread just because you think Obama isn't doing what he needs to do.

And I know your saying "I'm a long time DU'er and donor to DU" was a shot at me because I don't have but maybe 50 posts but I don't care. Everyone started out at zero posts on this board. And I do whatever I can do for Obama and will continue to do so.

[DevonRex]

95. Hear hear!!!! You have our support and our thanks for speaking

up. And welcome to DU!

[Larkspur]

104. This is the Democratic Underground board, not the Obama Underground board

If you want compliant pro-Obama-only comments, than go to Barack's web site or create your own.

This board is for Democrats and Democrats, even those of us who will vote for him, don't all agree with Obama or with his positions. Criticizing Obama is not bashing him.

[Baltoman991]

113. I'm not

an idiot really. I know the difference between criticizing and bashing. Trust me, you went way past the line of criticizing on the board today.

[Larkspur]

125. You haven't a clue what the difference between criticizing and bashing is

[cali]

20. bwahahaha. the shit stirring continues.

[DevonRex]

23. Yep. Pissing on every thread, stirring shit.

[Larkspur]

52. As a longtime DU'er and donor to DU, I do have a right to express my opinion on this forum

get used to it.

[Starry Messenger]

54. Too bad you are so negative about backing them up.

Hardly an inspiration for the new kids.

MPK

[Larkspur]

58. It builds character in the "new kids"

They learn that not everyone thinks like them.

[Starry Messenger]

64. Oh. Well I'll remember to flame all the newbies now.

Thanks for the heads up! :hug:

[Larkspur]

78. That's your choice.

[Starry Messenger]

96. -10

[DevonRex]

61. About those style points...

I'm seeing nothing innovative here, are you? So I'd have to award a C in that category.

Technical difficulty: Nah. All pretty much cheap shots. So either a C or a D there, too.

[Larkspur]

67. Who appointed you judge?

is that what Obama fanatics are reduced to -- role playing style judges? That's what children do.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

73. She's a longtime DUer and donor to DU. She's a right to her opinions.

More importantly, her opinions are respected by her peers.

[Starry Messenger]

76. Yes. I've awarded several fouls for repetition.

Looks like our score cards tally. Not looking good for the win. Going to have to bring out the quadruple toe loop to catch up in points. Sad.

[DevonRex]

85. LOL!!! Quadruple toe loop!!!! hee hee

There was some weird twisting stuff down thread a bit about Gore and the Clintons. But the landing was just awful. We're talking face-plant bad.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

94. And now it's turned sexual.

I think that's the show stopper, folks.

[DevonRex]

97. Truly, what else could possibly come out of the hat at this point?

As long as we don't have to watch...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

100. Usually, I'd say racism.

But we already had that.

9-11 twoof?

Chemtrails?

[DevonRex]

110. Hmm. Chemtrails of antidepressants since that is what is predicted

in #80. Not 86. Geez. I'm so annoyed I can't even read the numbers right. :)

[Name removed]

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[Starry Messenger]

111. No sex threads.

As a longtime Du-er I thought you'd know that. Tisk.

[Larkspur]

114. I was complimenting them

Thought it would make them feel better.

[Starry Messenger]

109. That was definitely...unexpected.

but sadly off the rails pointwise.

[Larkspur]

89. I love fouls. It gets me arouse. Wantta have some foul sex together

[Starry Messenger]

101. -20

This is looking tragic, folks. Howard Cosell needed badly here.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

55. As long as you're repeating Bill O'Reilly talking points...

don't expect anybody to take you seriously.

[Larkspur]

62. Who is Bill O'Reilly?

I watch Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow on MSNBC and listen to Stephanie Miller Thom Hartmann, Randi Rhodes on the radio.

i don't watch the Fascist News Network, aka Faux News, aka Fixed News.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

65. You're a fan of KO....

and you don't know who BillO is?

Tell me more.

[Larkspur]

72. I know who Bill O'Reilly is. I was being sarcastic

I don't watch Faux News. I listen to Stephanie Miller, etal so I don't have to.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

79. These aren't Stephanie Miller's anti-Obama talking points you're posting.

So again, the credibility problem crops up.

[Larkspur]

84. They are not Right wing talking points either

They are Cynical Democrat opinions.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

91. Nope, RW.

PUMA bullshit.

[Larkspur]

98. Nope, they are Cynical Democrat opinions

I'm not a PUMA, nor have I every been a Clinton supporter. I never will be a Clinton supporter.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

99. Yeah, yeah, you hate the Clintons.

You already told us that.

[Larkspur]

108. Then believe it

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

116. Believe what you say?

Yeah, that's going to happen.

[cali]

70. and I have the right to challenge it. Get used to it. Or don't.

[Larkspur]

75. I don't have a problem with you challenging my posts

This will be an ongoing war among us.

[Name removed]

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[Cha]

21. Whine Whine Whine Whine..

Whine some more, why don't ya? WHINER.

[Name removed]

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[cali]

77. yes, of course. Anyone who calls you on your vile crap is either

a fanatic or repuke. Pathetic. And all you do is whinge and bitch.

[Larkspur]

83. No, I actually created a thread on GD-Political thread today

Didn't you see it? I posted an excerpt from David Sirota's latest blog. Sirota is my favorite progressive writer. He took Molly Ivin's place as a columnist, and he's also an Obama critic, so I can understand why you wouldn't read his stuff.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

105. Oh, I saw that.

Looked to be a desperate attempt to change the subject and CYA.

The fact that you're citing it here for no apparent reason doesn't really help.

[Larkspur]

112. I was responding to your inane accusation that I only post to disrupt threads

If you do a search on my post name, you will find that I've made lots of posts and have started threads. I've been a member since 2001, so there is a lot of history for my post name.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

119. I've made no such accusation.

Reading is fun-damental.

[Cheap_Trick]

24. If he breaks out "the passion"

then the MSM will label him "an angry black man".

[potone]

33. Exactly! I heard Chris Matthews bring up that nonsense.

I thought the same thing that you did. He can't win with pundits who are determined to find fault with him. He sounds outraged enough to me--at least I believe that he understands how serious our economic problems are and will work to try to improve things. I truly don't believe that McCain knows or cares (I am not as generous in spirit to him as Obama and Biden are) how bad things are. What we need right now is a progressive pragmatist, and I believe that that is precisely what Obama is. He was not my first choice for president, but the more I see of him, the more impressed I am.;)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

25. "professor mantle"

Ah, the old "uppity" meme, eh?

[LittleClarkie]

27. That darkie shore is edumacated, ain't he.

I do love to hear dat boy tawk. Think he'll break out into a song for us too?

[DevonRex]

28. Kind of makes you want to yawn doesn't it? nt

[Larkspur]

127. You posts are the most boring, so I can see why you yawn a lot

[Larkspur]

37. Explain to me how "professor" = smear on blacks?

Al Gore was also accused of being to wonkish or professorsorial. Al Gore is white.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

41. Didn't like Gore either, eh?

Figures.

[Larkspur]

44. I loved Al Gore. Voted for him in 2000

Gore was a better man than Bill Clinton. He was faithful to his wife.

I don't like the Clintons.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

46. OK, so you don't like Obama, Gore, or the Clintons.

It's all coming together.

[Larkspur]

49. You are a Liar!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

51. LOL

Listen, kid, I'm not the one with the credibility problem here.

[DevonRex]

57. This is pretty bizarre, isn't it? Not quite to the level of the meltdown

we had about a month ago, though. So I'm giving it maybe a C. The technical difficulty isn't up to par and there's nothing new in the style portion, either.

What would your grade be?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

59. So far, I'm giving it an incomplete.

The sequential "Oh, I also hate Gore, Kerry, and Clintons" was pretty impressive work.

[DevonRex]

66. That is the one new twist I've seen so far. Might have to study it

further to come to a decision. :)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

69. Oh, btw...

which last months meltdown were you referring to?

I'm drawing a blank.

[DevonRex]

It was one in which

several people ganged up on one DUer and accused him of being a closet freeper, without any proof. I couldn't even go to bed when that one was going on. Stayed up hours later than usual just to watch the show. Thankfully the one who was ganged up on had a fantastic sense of humor and made it quite entertaining.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

82. That's not exactly specific.

:rofl:

[DevonRex]

88. Heh heh. If I can come up with the specifics...

I'll PM you. I just might have bookmarked it. And I also believe there were PMs flying that night, too, because it was that nuts.

[Starry Messenger]

128. Ah yes

World Wolsh 2

[DevonRex]

131. That's IT. Thank goodness somebody remembered.

[cali]

80. oh you poor wittle thing. want to post bullshit but whine whine whine

when you get called on it. have a blanky.

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[cali]

102. you're going to be old shriveled and bitter by the time that happens or

rather, older, and more shriveled and bitter. I don't have lofty expectations re Obama.

And I'm already laughing my ass off toying with you, sweetums.

[Larkspur]

115. I'm having a great time with Obama fanatics too

We'd have great sex. I know it.

[DevonRex]

118. Well, we're getting a pretty good laugh out of this thread.

[Starry Messenger]

120. It rocks the awesome!

:toast:

[DevonRex]

122. It does that!

:toast:

[Larkspur]

126. I'm having a good laugh at you guys and gals too

[cali]

129. sure you are. that's why you sound so whiny and pissy

:rofl:

[DevonRex]

134. That's a pretty accurate description.

[LittleClarkie]

26. Meanwhile I've met people who wish Obama would go back to the positive message that got him here.

I'm betting that if he wins without going as negative as you want him to, you will say he won DESPITE his campaign, not because of it.

How about admitting that this is only your opinion and, of course, you could be wrong.

The campaign might not be perfect but being all negative and bitchy about it is hardly helping to keep McCain out of the White House. Of course Obama is probably making a mistake here and there, but you make it sound like they're hardly EVER right.

[Larkspur]

32. Obama has already gone negative so your delusional wish about Obama running

only a positive campaign is gone.

Those voters who say they hate negative campaigning are either in the minority or are lying. Negative campaigning works. Its been used in every political campaign since the John Adams/Thomas Jefferson battle.

Negative campaigning does not have to be a smear campaign. Harry Truman said it best -- "Republicans complain that I give them Hell, but I just tell the Truth about them and they think it's Hell." Telling the Truth about the Rethugicans over and over again is how Dems can win, but Dems have to be aggressive, not passive professor types. Harry Truman didn't play the professor role, like Obama. My mother, who voted for Truman in 1948, said the best thing Harry did was go on that Whistle Stop Tour and remind people who Republicans really represent -- Big Business.

When Obama is on the attack, and I've seen him on the attack a few fleeting times in the past, he actually looks good. He looks like a strong and coherent leader. When he plays the professor role, like he does on some talk shows and forums, he floods his sentences with "ahs" and "ums" and that makes him look weak and indecisive. It's also an annoying habit and being a professional public speaker Obama should know better than that.

[rebel with a cause]

39. By the way not everyone loved Harry Truman.

He was thought a hot head by some and they didn't like him as a president. Just goes to show that it is right that you can't please all of the people all of the time.

[Larkspur]

48. True, but Harry won re-election despite having high negatives

and he did it by fighting back against the Republican ideology and reconnecting with ordinary Americans.

Truman knew his days were over after he got us stuck in Korea and had no way to end the conflict.

[LittleClarkie]

45. I told you what others have said to me

It's not my "delusional wish". It's the opinion of potential voters.

Must you insult those who disagree?

[DevonRex]

53. Apparently so. Between "delusional" and "fanatic" pretty much

everyone here has been insulted. Repeatedly.

[Starry Messenger]

60. At least he/she is keeping the thread title kicked up top of GD:P

It's nice seeing "Obama on fire!" at the top for more than five minutes. ;)

[DevonRex]

71. Yes it is, isn't it? Heh heh. Same with Bernie's thread about his genius

campaign. Loved that too. :)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

81. I was thinking of starting an "Obama is rather nifty" thread.

And seeing how Larkspur would object to it.

[Starry Messenger]

92. Oh do.

I want to see how one slams niftyness.

[DevonRex]

106. Sorry. It's post #80.

I wonder if I could say FU to that and not get deleted...

[Starry Messenger]

121. Probably not. ;)

But I like what we've got going here. Another one for the history books. And as an added bonus...I reached 1000 posts. Yeah me!

MPK

[DevonRex]

123. Congratulations! That totally rocks.

And yeah, I kinda like it, too. Gonna have to bookmark it.

[DevonRex]

103. ROFL! Do it. And look up at post #80. Correction. It's 80 not 86.

[Larkspur]

117. Oh boy, more chance to have sex with you

Bring it on!!!

[LittleClarkie]

74. But hey, we don't know anything, so who are we to say.

It seems that those who disagree have something wrong with them, apparently.

[DevonRex]

135. Yes. We must all be defective and just don't know it.

[gblady]

38. I don't equate passion....

with anger and negativity...

I see his greatest passions being about the changes he knows he can help bring to this country...
the country he wants to try and save for his daughters and all children...
his desire to bring back the dreams and principles this country was founded upon.

[gblady]

30. been watching his stump speeches for 6 months now...

he's been pretty passionate the whole time...
perhaps we have a different definition of the word.

[Larkspur]

93. Yes, it looks like we do have a different definit of "passion"

I don't have a problem with that.

[bdamomma]

8. that was total BS Tweety was saying last nite.

about Obama's passion, do not trust the media.

[cottonseed]

15. Tweety wants a Pres who tells the economy to "bring it on".

He's been pretty good lately, but he was still the same guy who was gushing over Bush's cod piece on the carrier.

[butterfly77]

18. I had just gotten off of the computer last night when I heard Tweety saying that...

I began screaming at the television what in the hell is he talking about. Tweety and some of these other talking heads always talk about what Obama needs to do and I can tell from their remarks that they must not be listening to some of his speeches and rallies fully or they are full of shit. I think the latter is the case.

[butterfly77]

19. Self delete

[DevonRex]

22. Poor Tweets just ran out of stuff to say. So he made something up.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

4. Palin has resorted to Molotov cocktails?

NT

[Phx_Dem]

5. ...

"The old boys network . . . in John McCain's campaign, that's called a staff meeting."

Absolutely fucking hilarious!!

[Ammonium]

9. He is finally hitting him hard

and it's about time. These attacks are precise and directly to the point. Bravo!

[SeaLyons]

11. Ahhhhh.,...that was a great speech....

he's kicking ass.....

GOBAMA!!!

[Demi_Babe]

12. wonderful speech

[UnrepentantUnitarian]

13. Have any of you noticed...

...how MSNBC and CNN (--can't speak about Faux since I just don't go there, I've de-programmed that channel from my tv--) so often break away from these Obama rallies just as he's about to address something really important? Maybe I just don't notice them doing it to McCain, but I find myself going up and down the channels trying to find out what Obama just said. I doubt that it's a conspiracy--these folks are just not that smart--but it's still very annoying.

[nc4bo]

16. yes. Then they'll turn around and talk about how Obama never addresses any important issues. nt

[LittleClarkie]

29. Used to do that to Kerry too

They'd show him talking and then tell us what he said, making it sound like he was just saying the same old thing.

How about letting us hear, people.

[Starry Messenger]

34. Like they did during the Kerry speech at the DNC too!

I'm still pissed about that. I quickly switched back to c-span, but CNN could hardly have made their contempt more obvious. I am boycotting them.

[LittleClarkie]

43. That's exactly what I did. I had come home just to watch that

and it pissed me off when the talking heads cut him off.

Hell of a speech, wasn't it?

[Starry Messenger]

47. Yes! I cried.

I'm still in mourning. I'm so glad Obama's such a kick ass candidate. It's fun watching Kerry get surgical as his surrogate.

[ecstatic]

132. You doubt that it's a conspiracy? Wow nt

[trashcanistanista]

36. That was a great line!

I just finished watching it. Great speech.

[Imagevision]

63. Fired Up, Ready To Go - Fired Up, - Raedy to Go!

[pnorman]

68. This is what I was able to Google so far:

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/09/obama_mocks_mccain_for_old_boy.html

Hopefully, it'll be up on YouTube in a short while.

pnorman

[Peacetrain]

87. Heard it on CNN.. really good

Obama is on fire

[Bread and Circus]

124. Nothing like a good political zinger...well aimed comedy is powerful mojo

[Starry Messenger]

130. Yes it sure is! n/t

[hootinholler]

133. WHEW! I thought you meant like Richard Prior for a minute!

:scared:

-Hoot