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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:46 AM
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Joseph Biden (coming up on MSNBC)
Senator Joseph Biden is coming up on MSNBC.
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southern_dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:46 AM
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1. What a great contrast
to McCain's lousy appearance.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:46 AM
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2. Joe Ought To Say Something About That prick john roberts,
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 06:47 AM by Dinger
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:47 AM
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3. He just kicked Viero's ass on NBC !!
She kept misquoting him and he kept correcting her!

She's such a sleaze... ugh!

Go Joe!!!
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:50 AM
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4. Laid McCain out on CNN a few minutes ago
Called him straight out by name, locked solid to the republicans and failed economy.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:50 AM
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5. And is doing it again on MSNBC
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:53 AM
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8. The more the
public listens to Senator Biden, the better it is. He has wonderful communication skills.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:52 AM
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6. She should go back to reading questions on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire."
She was much more likable in that role.

It's good to hear that Joe is correcting the nooze person.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 07:02 AM
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15. She still is on Millionare...
Her sing-song voice grates on my nerves and her sanctimonious

know-it-all attitude irritates the hell out of me! :grr:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 07:31 AM
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18. Well I guess it's me who's out of touch then.
;-)

I didn't realize she was still on.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:52 AM
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7. Well At Least joe Let's Biden Talk
Fuck, I'm still pissed about that goddamn roberts interview.
mika's a dumbass though.
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:53 AM
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9. These two aint much better
At least they are letting Biden talk.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:54 AM
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10. Roberts is a poodle.
Mourning Joe is a snake.

Biden is showing how to communicate what is important, despite their nonsense.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:54 AM
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11. Yup, joe Definitely Treating Biden Better Than roberts
I almost decided to capitalize his name, but stopped short because he's a repug.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:57 AM
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12. The obnoxious
republican dick dripping in the studio just tried to triangulate; Biden handled it well, by pointing out the woman had just lost her job.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:57 AM
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13. Biden Seemed A Lot More Positive At The End Of This Interview Than That Other One
Shit, "chucky t." is up next. So much for morning joe . . .
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:59 AM
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14. Chuck Todd
actually favors Obama. The "powers-that-be" are putting pressure on the intelligent people at MSNBC, which has resulted in some sad changes in how some are presenting the "news."
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 07:02 AM
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16. Well O.K. Then,
I didn't think of that. It's just that Todd seems so full of himself.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 07:29 AM
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17. The best model
for understanding what is going on is what took place during the Plame scandal. Those who want good sources of information should look to: (a) pages 265-268 of "Hubris," by Isikoff & Corn, and (b) the documents the prosecution introduced during the trial of I. Liar "Scooter" Libby.

The vice president and Libby were furious with the reporting Chris Matthews did on Hardball. They had Paul Wolfowitz contact NBC/MSNBC to claim that Matthews was "anti-Semitic." This, of course, was an ugly charge, which luckily was not considered accurate by management. Hence, Libby called Tim Russert, who he mistook for being Matthews' boss. Libby made clear that he was speaking for Cheney. Russert passed his complaints on to NBC president Neal Shapiro, who responded, "Hey, this guy is still the vice president," and ordered Matthews' executive producer to have Chris "throttle back a bit."

During the Libby trial, where he was convicted on five felony charges, Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald documented Cheney and Libby's preoccupation with Hardball, and their efforts to silence Matthews.

The current operation to silence the honest journalists on MSNBC is being coordinated by John Bolton, who is the neoconservative "point man" on the McCain campaign, and the OVP. They have made their efforts appear to be not merely the work of republican leaders, but a grass roots effort, as well. Hence, we see Mika leaving her spine at home; Andrea Mitchell attempting to be "objective" by attacking Obama; Todd and (sadly) David Shuster holding their tongues; and a greater platform for republican voices. Onle Matthews, Olbermann, and Maddow dare to speak the truth. Chris is considering leaving MSNBC relatively soon, anyhow, to run as a democrat for political office. Keith and Rachel are simply honest people, who will always try to tell the truth as they see it.

DUers should be e-mailing MSNBC to express support for the hosts of these three evening shows.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 07:32 AM
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19. Please H2O Man..
Give this post a new title and put it up as a new thread. This is important information on the innards of the TV machine..
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 07:36 AM
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20. Let's see: thousands of DU'ers (!) vs. Cheney. I know where my money is.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 07:50 AM
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21. I think it is pretty clear .... MARGINALIZE ...
Increasingly over time, as they have had complete control of government and Fs it up beyond all objective reason, they don't expect media to out and out carry water for Rs, but they DO expect the media to MARGINALIZE Ds at ALL times.

This has been my biggest problem with Mathews, over the last 8 year or so - it isn't just puffing up the more manly Rs, it is the never ending way he painted Ds negatively.

This is what you see all the time - BO has a problem, Ds are elitist ... Whatever.

And, this is what I am seeing with Todd. I remain convinced he is a D. From his days on C-SPAN for Hotline, I think he always had a little more twinkle in his eyes when he talked about Ds. But, for the first time over the last few weeks, I have seen him go out of his way to do the "but Obama is in trouble" thing.

I am going to tell this again - Luke Russert.

He was given time at the conventions to report on the "youth vote."

Saw his very first on air piece the day before the convention started. Now, he was talking about the youth vote, and by then nature of it, it sounded positive for BO, and he didn't even mention McCain. Not biased, just the way it is.

NEXT DAY, his SECOND on air moment, he does a COMPLETE 360 - talked about how great McCain has been doing in reaching out to young voters, and that "If this trend keeps up, BO is in real trouble, because he can't win without the youth vote."

Perhap no clearer evidence of how the media is put on a leash for Rs - and in this instance, a son learning in one day what he father LONG knew and was proficient at.
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