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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:04 PM
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Today's Gallup tracking poll: McCain 47%-Obama 45%
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 12:08 PM by jenmito
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:06 PM
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1. I think he did hit 50. I'm so happy he is losing his bounce though. Hope it continues.
I want him to be back down to the 44 that he could not go over at first.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:08 PM
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2. I just added the graph. I don't see McCain hitting 50%. n/t
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:14 PM
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5. Good! Glad I was wrong about that. nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:17 PM
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9. So am I.
:D
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:48 PM
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31. I do see 50% though .... n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:36 PM
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41. Not for MCCAIN. n/t
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:22 PM
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34. he didn't hit 50 in the gallup
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:37 PM
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43. Thanks. That's what I was talking about.
:hi:
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:39 PM
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38. I think the op meant didn't hit 50 in this poll n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:37 PM
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42. Correct. Thanks!
:hi:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:11 PM
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3. Most likely the slight convention bounce that so many predicted is now fading. We are going to win
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:15 PM
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6. Many people were worried it wasn't just a convention bounce but a permanent rise due to
the loser Palin.
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:12 PM
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4. Oh my, this is great news!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:16 PM
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8. Looks like as people see Palin off-script (even though her answers were well-scripted), they're
not so crazy about her anymore.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:16 PM
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7. Not bad for GOPallup! nt.
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darius15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:19 PM
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10. Fading convention bounce.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:47 PM
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13.  I was worried it was more than a bounce. I'm glad I was wrong.
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:50 PM
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32. As I said: McCain did not pass Obama...
Except in the Gallup poll.

Unless something stupid happens, like a nasty October surprise, McCain can't come back, as the truth about Palin starts to come out and people start to understand what she really is.

Come on, people, just a little push!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 03:56 PM
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33. Well...
he DID pass him in a COUPLE other polls, but the methods were suspect.

I'm not worried.
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:25 PM
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45. Me neither. A big solid 10 point bounce would have....
Obama had about a 6 to 8 points lead, meaning that it would take 3 to 4 % of the people to change their minds to go even.

I believe McCain just did about that. It's not hard to convince these people back, because they can't convince those they did not convince. Our voter's base is pretty solid. These are people who hate Bush, hate McCain, hate Palin.

The 3 to 4% of possible electors can come back and will come back if we stick to the message and show guts and fighting spirit.

I believe that's what motivates them before all.

Kerry lost by not fighting back. He also lost me, even if I voted for him because I thought him less worse than Bush, but he did not show his fighting spirit, which he probably had in Nam, and through his political carreer.

He did not show it when it mattered most and that's why he lost, on top of the election fraud.

Obama shows he can fight back, that's the big plus over Kerry.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:19 PM
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11. Great to see the drop!
I think Obama will be slightly ahead in a few more days.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:46 PM
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12. I agree. I guess Palin wasn't the game-changer
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 12:47 PM by jenmito
McCain hoped for!
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:51 PM
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15. More like the candidate from nowhere
who's going to take him nowhere.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:04 PM
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16. ...who knows nothing.
:D
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:13 PM
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20. And just wait until the VP debate
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 01:15 PM by mvd
I think Palin will be a NEGATIVE for McCain after that. :hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:48 PM
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23. I agree...
the contrast will be OBVIOUS. :hi:
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:51 PM
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14. Figure in also . . .
that Obama always polls lower on the weekends. Younger voters, 20-30 year olds, are out more than the older folks on the weekend. I bet he's 1 or 2 points ahead by Monday or Tuesday.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:06 PM
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17. I always forget to figure that into the equation but you're right.
I bet he'll be up again soon, too. I also credit it to Palin looking uninformed in her interview.
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iiibbb Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:08 PM
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18. Debates are the main turning point. Watching polls is like watching
the stock market.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:09 PM
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19. True. And this time OBAMA is the one with the low bar. I bet he's going to surprise a LOT of
people!
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iiibbb Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:16 PM
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21. I sure hope so...
I would like to see Obama hit a proverbial home run... but a triple will be fine. The way the press is bending over backwards to be "fair" a double or single just leaves too much room for them to equivocate.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:50 PM
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24. I think he's already shaping up. Did you see how good he was at the "service forum"
compared to the "faith forum" regarding the crispness of his answers?
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:38 PM
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22. McCain has seen his high
GOBAMA!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:51 PM
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25. And it wasn't 50%!
GOBAMA!
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The Revolution Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:53 PM
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26. Compare the convention bounces
Obama's convention bounce looks a lot better.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:56 PM
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27. Even though his DNC coverage only lasted less than one day due to McCain's VP pick.
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:12 PM
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28. Bye bye bounce.
Obama will retake the lead by next weekend.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:17 PM
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29. Bye bye bird's nest (Palin's hair).
I bet it will be sooner than that!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:40 PM
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30. With resolve and determination, it's go time.
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3W5GDkgf2w
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freespirit5 Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:26 PM
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35. McSame is on the downward slope
Obama has the momentum
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:27 PM
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39. Yup. Not exactly as he had hoped!
:D
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:27 PM
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36. That almost certainly means they're tied today at Gallup
What'd it go on the 3 day tracking

5 5 5 3 2 the last few days? In order to balance out that 5, today is probably tied. Maybe we're ahead by one... Down by one at the worst.

And climbing.

David
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:34 PM
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40. Thanks for that summary-I hope/bet you're right!
:hi:
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:01 PM
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44. Could be the case...
...although some poll-watchers over at dKos and elsewhere think that McCain was up by 8 on Tuesday, which would mean that he was actually up by 5 yesterday. It only shows the difficulty in trying to analyze the days of a tracking poll. (I tried doing it myself until a post by Nate Silver on 538.com showed how wildly inaccurate such calculations can be, especially due to lack of precision and subsequent rounding error in the totals -- for example, if McCain was really up by 2.5 yesterday and 2.4 today, that's far different than if he was up by 3.4 yesterday and 1.5 today.)

I think the bigger thing to notice, and one not really based on the day-to-day scores, is that McCain is losing share not only to Obama, but (and more importantly) to "undecided" as well. At his peak, he was up by 5% with only 7% undecided. Now, it's 2% with 8% undecided. That's a lot easier gap to make up. And the fact that he has been losing total "market share" each day is a clearer sign than the overall difference between the two candidates that his "convention bounce" is, indeed, fading.

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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:37 PM
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37. Most polls are showing a statistical dead heat
This one is gonna be a nail-biter folks.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 08:54 PM
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46. I think it's gonna break for Obama BIG after the debates.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 08:55 PM
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47. ZOMG WE'RE ALL DOOMD
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 08:57 PM
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48. Palin could add to numbers drop depending on Biden, c'mon Joe!
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madcaplaughed Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 09:00 PM
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49. obama needs to be bold!
I think obama could take a huge lead and news cycle run if he laid out a plan for legalizing marijuana. he already lost the extreme right to palin, and the polls reflect that. Doing something like so bold and progressive could get him lots of independents and undecideds if he talks of how much it will benefit the economy.
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