Bookmark this post - this is how Sarah Palin is gonna possible best Biden in a debate....

[LynneSin]

she's gonna bring out the tears.

I swear to god, that's about all she has left in her arsenal. She's gonna steam up those rimless glasses and get mascara streaming down her eyes (and trust me she won't have waterproof mascara on either) and look in the cameras and say something like "I just a mother want to serve my country and make it a better place for my children and yours"

That's all she has left.

[no_hypocrisy]

1. And therefore Biden can't stop that avenue of "debate" by saying

he's a loving and concerned father and grandfather who wants the same thing, let's move on?

[holiday]

2. You may be right.. ususally mothers love her and she could

tear up when she speaks of her son going to Iraq

[Bluenorthwest]

23. All the mothers I know detest Palin

And in specific, they take issue with her use of the children and her family problems in the public eye. They abhore her use of her son's service as a campaign device.
So I'd say most mothers can not stand Palin.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

30. Well, it depends where you are, I guess.

Unfortunately, here in swing state NM, I know several mothers who adore her (god knows why). I try to tell them that she's the antithesis of feminism, but they don't care. I just hope it's not enough to swing the state for McCain.

[holiday]

37. God I wish I knew women like that.. I must be surrounded by

fembots lol. I can't stand that mothers actually fall for her crap

[blondeatlast]

26. And of course Biden couldn't possibly say the same about his son Beau going there.

THAT would be politicizing it--and that's why he doesn't do it. But somehow it's okay for her.

[Sugarcoated]

58. Well I hope Biden brings up his son, as well

and then steers it back to the very serious issues at stake.

[Dhalgren]

3. No, cause he will have

made a "mommy" cry. He will be a nasty old bastard who hates women and probably dogs, too. Not that I am comparing Sarah to a dog - don't go there!

[JohnnyBoots]

14. She's not a dog. She's a parrot. She repeats what ever talking points the right wing tells her to

[OHdem10]

4. May I disagree. I do not know that she will best Biden, however

she is one tough cookie and she knows that is her strength.

By the time of the debates she will have had more time to prepare.

She will work to "hold her own". Governors do not have experience
in Foreign Relations.

If she holds her own, they will be happy to move on.

[Virginia Dare]

7. The problem is, they have already made her out to be a foreign policy expert..

if she had come out from the get-go and said, I admit I have much to learn, I haven't had a lot of practical policy experience blah blah blah.

But they've built her up to be MORE qualified and knowledgeable than Obama. Now she looks stupid.

[LynneSin]

11. Oh she wont' best Biden unless she uses the tears

I mean it's what we women do when faced by men who try to do us bad. Believe me, you know how many speeding tickets I've gotten out of with the tears. The fact that I have done that shows that we women have no problems stooping to such childish tactics in order to bring a man to his knees

[lapislzi]

22. If she doesn't fall down foaming at the mouth

(I did not call her a dog or a rabid coyote or anything of the sort)

or say something so right-wing-nuttified like she hopes that Israel will start a war to bring about the Rapture, the media will trip over itself proclaiming her the "winner" and kvelling at her having bested an old Washington war horse like Joe Biden.

I'm thinking of changing my name to Cassandra.

[Cosmocat]

59. EXACTOMUNDO ! The only way it will be a "win" for the US is ...

been my call from about 1 minute after it broke that she was his pick, and the media started up with playing it BOTH ways, HARD:

1) Well, you see, Joe, expectations are SO low, she doesn't have to do much to win.
2) At the same time, Joe, Biden has to be VERY careful.

IMO, Biden is smart enough to know this, and is going to be INCREDIBLY gentlemanly and statesmanlike. He will NOT go out of his way to make her look any more stupid that she is - he will simply beat her on basic knowledge and be a gentleman about it - she won't fall to the ground foaming at the mouth, the media WILL hail it a "win" for Palin/McCain, the right wing sill applause their idiot being praised by the media, and the best we can hope for is there are are enough truly moderate and reasonable voters out there who will see for all the light of day that shrill moron she is.

THAT is the only possible "win" for BO, and the country.

[blondeatlast]

35. "Governors do not have experience in foregn relations." Tell that to Bill Richardson,

Janet Napolitano, and any other border-state governor. That's not only wrong, it's no excuse.

Let me know when you stop defending the republicans; I want to see it, and I haven't yet.

[RaleighNCDUer]

38. And she got her foreign relations experience by dealing with the

hundreds of thousands of Russians sneaking across her border every year?

C'mon, what's she done? Deal with a few trade delegations? The mayor of St. Louis has probably had more foreign relations dealings than she has, and represents more people.

she's got nothing.

[MurrayDelph]

49. or Ahnold

(I mean I hate what they guy has done to the state, but you can't deny he has foreign relations ).

[CTyankee]

5. I'm sure Joe is prepared for that eventuality.

If she does that, he should gently say "It's okay, it's okay. Everything is going to be all right." And then he signals to the moderator that he is fine with stopping the debate to give her "space." He would be a gentleman and would treat it as if she had become faint and needed to stop and have some water.

It's the only way he could handle that. Afterwards, he could praise her for sincerity. In other words, kill her with kindness!

[annabanana]

8. Exactly. I'm sure he would be the perfect gentleman

in the face of her PROVING BEYOND THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT that she is not up to the job.

[no_hypocrisy]

10. Agreed. It wouldn't surprise me if Biden were to be disarming to her,

thus confusing her, her handlers, the moderators, everyone. Making it impossible to NOT like him -- at least as much as her, if not more.

[Virginia Dare]

6. So you think she'll drop the pitbull and become the sympathetic mommy?

could be, because the pitbull looked like a lost puppy last night.

[n2doc]

9. I think she will just blather her sound bites

Even if they don't make sense. Then afterwards the MSM will declare her the "winner" because she was so "tough".

I do think she will try the sympathy stuff, but not so overtly. I think it is more likely that she will try to put out the "Bring em on" bullshit she seems so happy to spew.

[Virginian]

36. The reviewers will say how well she stayed on message

when all she did was repeat the talking points she has memorized.

Hopefully, if she cries, people will take it as a sign of her weakness. That has happened to previous presidential candidates.

[OneGrassRoot]

12. Won't work. AND it will disgust the hardcore base, IMO. n/t

[yy4me]

13. Barf...and baloney. She needs to get out of Dodge. Now ! n/t

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. i doubt it. doesnt seem her style.

[LynneSin]

28. Nothing else seems to be working and she could barely handle Charlie Gibson

think she can handle Biden.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

40. no but she can throw insults and i bet you 100 bucks she will do that

instead of crying

just seems more in keeping w. her style

[jonnyblitz]

16. I completely agree, LynneSin, and this is why I don't think women

should be allowed to be politicians because you KNOW when all else fails, they will turn on the waterworks and play on people's pity and WIN. Fucking BITCHES!!1 :sarcasm:

[Highway61]

17. You mean like what

Tammy Faye Bakker used to do? Pulls at them there heart strings don't ya know. But when Hillary damn near got somewhat emotional when she was tired and emotionally drained from campaigning long hours, remember the backlash on her? You're right though...bet it does happen and old "mouthpiece" Joe is gonna be taken to the woodshed. Damn thing is all staged for a bunch of "gotchas"
I hope Joe paints her in a corner very softly, diplomatically and intelligently so that her bloomers get bunched up within the first 3 minutes. I can't wait!

edit: spelling :(

[treestar]

18. I don't think she can cry

It would raise the meme that she is not tough enough for the job.

[RaleighNCDUer]

39. But she does not have an original thought in her head -- all she knows

is that it seemed to work for Hillary, so I would not be surprised if she tried it.

It would, of course, blow up in her face.

[ellie]

19. Then Biden

should walk over, hand her a handkerchief, and say, "I can answer that for Gov. Palin," and then answer the question. He comes to her rescue and is smart.

[SDJay]

20. Since this fool Palin is nothing

more than a contrived and cynical marketing ploy, I wonder how Biden could even win in this debate - assuming it happens at all. If he owns her, even respectfully, he's a sexist pig. If he shows her 'respect and deference,' he's a lightweight who couldn't even take moosemommy to task when he needed to. The only real question is how the country will react to what's sure to be disgusting spin from the evil bastards on the right after she does get her ass handed to her.

On the other hand, I could see the 'pit bull' losing her marbles and not necessarily crying, but losing it by way of wagging her finger/fist and raising her voice when she knows that she has no idea how to tackle the issue on the table. The toughest task planning-wise for Biden is how to deal with a complete amateur who won't understand the norms and general etiquette of such a forum.

I'm still thinking that this debate will be canceled due to the 'unfair and sexist attacks' by the media that should remove this pea-brain from any further scrutiny, and we'll see how that would fly with the media.

[LynneSin]

31. I wouldn't hold it past Biden to have Jennifer Granholm do some fake tears

that's his practice partner for the debates. For all we know he's probably having Granholm pull out every stupid trick women have done throughout the centuries to get their way over men.

[CTyankee]

46. I've been thinking that way also. Unless they have come up with

the perfect zinger and what would that be? He would need to simply ignore it and point out that it's very funny but doesn't address the issue of "whatever". Then get right back on message.

Of course, since this is moderated I would presume the questions will be put to each of them by the moderator, each having a time to respond, so a back and forth between him and her might not happen.

[VWolf]

21. No way. If she squirts it'll make her look weak

M$M says we're the weak party, remember?

[Jennicut]

24. Actually I 've seen Biden cry in interviews and I've NEVER seen Phalin shed a tear

He cried in a recent interview with CNN, in an interview with Charlie Gibson, and speaking to the Delaware Delegation right before the DNC, all about what happened with his first wife and daughter dying in a car accident. Joe has a lot more emotion and is a lot more real then the wackjob ever will be.

[shadowknows69]

25. FIne, Biden has a sympathy story that beats hers hands down

I know he'd never want to go there but tell me how her being a mom that wants to help trumps a guy who lost half his family and still decided the best way to honor them and his sons was to serve his country.

[LynneSin]

29. These are republicans - does anything they do make sense or seem logical

Nuff said

[kayell]

27. Total fail if she does.

I wouldn't put it past them, but it will just give us more ammo.

How do are they going to sell Barracuda Sarah at the same time she can't handle the tough questions. Can't have it both ways.

[vanderBeth]

32. I think if she did that, there would be backlash from the media. I doubt they would buy the tears.

It would also call into question her coping ability if she starts crying during a debate.

[rucky]

33. That would require her to have affect.

even if you're faking, you have to conjure something in your mind to turn on the water works.

[BlueIdaho]

34. Crying? There is no crying in baseball!

There is no crying in politics either.

[redqueen]

41. Will that help with voters?

I'm not sure voters want a possible president who pulls the "please officer I've never got a ticket before" schtick.

[Plaid Adder]

42. All that needs is a one-line response:

"Governor, if I can upset you this much just by talking to you, I can guarantee that if you actually get the position you're applying for, you'll be crying all day long."

Cause it's true, dammit,

The Plaid Adder

[Sugarcoated]

57. I'm undecided if it that response would be best or

the scenario I picture: Like the rest of America seeing a VP cry, Biden, after a look of stunned horror, "Huh? Am I really seeing this?", he will quickly gather his wits and he should, and hope he would, be sympathetic, "Are you okay Gov. Palin?", and "Would you like a few moments? Gwen, can we stop for a few minutes?". I honestly don't think it would be a stretch for Joe Biden to be a gentleman and be kind to her, attack dog notwithstanding.

A combination of both would be best, I suppose, but isn't it bizarre that we're even talking about this in a VP debate? :crazy:

[azmouse]

43. It would make her look weak.

What's she gonna do if she had to face tough world leaders? Cry?

Nah... she won't do it.

[JuniperLea]

44. I've been saying this for days...

It's always wrong when Dems do things, and always right when Repugs do the same things.


Dem rock star = bad
Repub rock star = good!

Dem change = bad
Repub change = good!

Dem climate change = bad
Repub climate change = good!

Dem cry = bad
Repub cry = good!

[Forkboy]

45. She'll "win" because the media will wildly downplay expectations.

If she shows up they'll say she won. Count on it.

[Ikonoklast]

47. Then Joe should walk over to her, wipe the tears from her face,

taste them and say, "Your bitter tears sustain me."












:hide:

[nsd]

52. LOL! Very nice.

[renate]

53. now my keyboard has coffee all over it... thanks a lot

:rofl:


I literally cannot stop laughing at that... i am falling off my chair here

[Starbucks Anarchist]

48. How would that help her?

Wouldn't it make her look even weaker?

[donco6]

50. She's going to do exactly what she has done.

She's already shown us EXACTLY what she will do in a debate. EXACTLY. It will not be any different from the 20/20 interview. A "blizzard of words". Lots of fake sincerity. Personal anecdotes which may or may not apply. This is her arsenal. It won't vary one IOTA from what we've already seen.

[nsd]

51. She won't cry. She can't -- people might sympathize, but they'd conclude she's too weak for the job.

That's a big hurdle for women candidates -- to prove they're Margaret Thatcher-like, to prove they're tough enough for command. Crying is out.

[anigbrowl]

54. Biden's personal debate strategy: act the gentleman and look at his nails whenever she gets dumb

I think as long as he doesn't mock her or mug to the audience when she says something, he'll win easily. His job is to display his knowledge without looking arrogant. I expect him to talk about 'serving the people of Delaware' a lot and downplay his senate seniority.

[libnnc]

55. You know, I would not put it past her at all.

That sounds about par for the course as far as their nerve is concerned. They've got nerve enough to do just that.

[EnviroBat]

56. "I just sent our son, Track, off to Iraq..."

"You can't talk about that subject.. Boo Hoo, I'm sorry I can't go on with this debate. It's too emotional for me, and it hits too close to home... Blubber blubber sniff".


Yes indeed, she'll play the "poormeism" card for all it's worth. The media will once again come to her rescue. She'll get off looking like some hockey-mom victim.

Fucking pathetic. :eyes: