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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:06 PM
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Sarah Palin: feminist, career woman, career politician with a stay-at-home-dad husband.
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 08:07 PM by girl gone mad
Hello?

These are all things that right wing men hate. So don't forget to mention them often when conversing with Republican men. As in: "I like the fact that she's a career woman who went right back to work after having her baby. It's great that her husband quit his job to raise their kids." Trust me, it leaves them stammering.
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  - ty  FLyellowdog   Sep-09-08 08:07 PM   #1 
  - that would be the stay at home husband  anakie   Sep-09-08 08:17 PM   #2 
  - Yes, she sure is a feminist! Not taking guff from any MEN, that's for sure!  Elrond Hubbard   Sep-09-08 08:21 PM   #3 
  - And those tough, macho Republican men need a woman to rescue their party...  girl gone mad   Sep-09-08 08:28 PM   #4 
     - I love that line of thinking. OMG, I SO have to mention that to any repig men I know.  Elrond Hubbard   Sep-09-08 08:31 PM   #5 
  - That is an interesting question.  Arctic Dave   Sep-09-08 08:40 PM   #6 
  - Todd Palin is something of a wildcard, pull up a chair...  jberryhill   Sep-09-08 09:49 PM   #23 
     - I work in the same oilfield as Todd.  Arctic Dave   Sep-09-08 09:59 PM   #24 
        - I don't think he's dumb....  jberryhill   Sep-09-08 11:58 PM   #27 
           - Well it looks like you pretty much answered your own question.  Arctic Dave   Sep-10-08 09:03 AM   #29 
  - Stay at home dad with two jobs? Not very likely.  Midlodemocrat   Sep-09-08 08:41 PM   #7 
  - He took a leave of absence when the baby was born...  girl gone mad   Sep-09-08 08:48 PM   #10 
  - Generally, the term stay at home dad refers to a man  Midlodemocrat   Sep-09-08 08:50 PM   #13 
     - Doesn't matter..  girl gone mad   Sep-09-08 08:54 PM   #15 
        - "dissuade right wing men from voting for McCain/Palin"?? Get serious.  WinkyDink   Sep-09-08 09:01 PM   #18 
           - LOL. I agree. I think they'd be more  Midlodemocrat   Sep-09-08 09:07 PM   #19 
           - Do you ever talk to RWers?  girl gone mad   Sep-09-08 09:15 PM   #20 
  - Champion snowmobiler too...  Virginia Dare   Sep-10-08 09:05 AM   #30 
  - Palin a feminist? ha!  pristinebullet   Sep-09-08 08:41 PM   #8 
  - That's beside the point here.  girl gone mad   Sep-09-08 08:50 PM   #11 
  - Whatever makes you think her husband quit his job?  lizzy   Sep-09-08 08:46 PM   #9 
  - shouldn't we tell them honest facts though?  adoraz   Sep-09-08 08:50 PM   #12 
  - If they cared about facts, they wouldn't be voting for McCain/Palin.  girl gone mad   Sep-09-08 08:57 PM   #16 
     - true- but if we lie that makes us just as bad as they are  adoraz   Sep-09-08 10:09 PM   #25 
  - (a) She's not a feminist; (b) They'll cheer for anything that pisses us off.  BlooInBloo   Sep-09-08 08:52 PM   #14 
  - Hannity is pushing this theme as a positive. I think I'll abstain.  WinkyDink   Sep-09-08 09:00 PM   #17 
  - Funny how that works.  riverdeep   Sep-09-08 09:24 PM   #21 
  - This is brilliant  Alcibiades   Sep-09-08 09:34 PM   #22 
  - He has not been a stay at home Dad..  stillcool47   Sep-09-08 10:34 PM   #26 
  - You could go more along the lines of  loyalsister   Sep-10-08 12:57 AM   #28 
 
FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:07 PM
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1. ty
good point
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anakie Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:17 PM
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2. that would be the stay at home husband
who is in any recent shot of Moosolini? That stay at home dad.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:21 PM
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3. Yes, she sure is a feminist! Not taking guff from any MEN, that's for sure!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:28 PM
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4. And those tough, macho Republican men need a woman to rescue their party...
since they screwed everything up.

They LOVE hearing that line. :rofl:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:31 PM
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5. I love that line of thinking. OMG, I SO have to mention that to any repig men I know.
:rofl:
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:40 PM
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6. That is an interesting question.
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 08:41 PM by Arctic Dave
What will Todd do if Sarah is the VP. Will he quit his job with BP? Will BP save his job for him for four years or more? Is saving his job even legal? Is Todd thinking his entire life as he knows it over for the next four years if she becomes VP? No more Irondog. No more flying. I wonder what he is thinking right now?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:49 PM
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23. Todd Palin is something of a wildcard, pull up a chair...

At the conventions, we heard from a collection of folks not running for office:

Cindy McCain

Michelle Obama

Jill Biden

Notice anyone missing from this roster?

Now, they are probably smart enough to wire that man's jaw shut, but I have a feeling that if the wires ever get loose, we'll hear some, ahem, interesting, things come out of that guy.

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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:59 PM
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24. I work in the same oilfield as Todd.
Let's just say that cultured or heavily intellectual is not something you will hear in conjuction with us. I couldn't see myself flying in Air Force Two much less anyone I work with. I'm not saying we are dumb, we are good at what we do, and that is extract oil, not speak for the entire US.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:58 PM
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27. I don't think he's dumb....
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 12:00 AM by jberryhill
There was a cutaway shot of the Palin family during the convention that was interesting. Sarah was returning to sit down with Cindy McCain and the two of them were chatting over something. That adorable little one came over to say something to her mother, and Todd's hand reached around Sarah's back to touch their daughter's arm. There was something in the way that child suddenly stiffened and recoiled from that hand which looked, odd. Cindy McCain and Sarah turned to speak with her, and she lit up again as an adorable child.

I don't think Todd is liking the "back seat" role here, and there are a million other things he'd rather be doing that putting on a suit and jetting around to hear the same speech in places he's never imagined visiting, and having a bunch of pansy-assed advisors and consultants tell him how to stand, when to stand, how to sit, what to do with his hands, etc.

I would imagine that Todd prefers to be the captain of his own ship, and he's been taken from that world in which, as you said, he's "good at what he does", and thrown into a situation where he's being told "shut up, sit down, and do what we tell you to do."

How well does that go over with the guys you work with?
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:03 AM
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29. Well it looks like you pretty much answered your own question.
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 09:04 AM by Arctic Dave
This place is full of the macho tough guy, alpha male types. So I would agree, Todd is not liking this at all. I would not be suprised if we don't see him for the rest of the campaign. Or better yet, if the press does see him, start asking him questions. That would get very interesting.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:41 PM
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7. Stay at home dad with two jobs? Not very likely.
Oil company executive and commercial fisherman. Doesn't leave a lot of time for child rearing.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:48 PM
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10. He took a leave of absence when the baby was born...
so that Sarah could go right back to work.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:50 PM
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13. Generally, the term stay at home dad refers to a man
who is staying home to raise the kids. Not just the new baby, ALL of the kids.

He's no stay at home dad. He races snowmobiles, remember?
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:54 PM
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15. Doesn't matter..
I'm not talking about facts or how to deal with people in the reality based community.

I'm just suggesting a way to dissuade right wing men from voting for McCain/Palin, or at least from being enthusiastic about the ticket.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:01 PM
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18. "dissuade right wing men from voting for McCain/Palin"?? Get serious.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:07 PM
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19. LOL. I agree. I think they'd be more
dissuaded by their decision to leave that baby in the hands of the nanny. Then again, maybe not.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:15 PM
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20. Do you ever talk to RWers?
I deal with them on a regular basis. Many are concerned that McCain is not conservative enough and still aren't sure if they want to vote for him, vote 3rd party or not vote at all. Any extra doubt we can create in their minds is a good thing.

Feel free to argue with me, but I've shut many more of them down this way than with hours of policy debate.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:05 AM
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30. Champion snowmobiler too...
you can't convince me that either one of them is home with those kids. NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.... :eyes:
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pristinebullet Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:41 PM
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8. Palin a feminist? ha!
She would be a NIGHTMARE to women in this nation.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:50 PM
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11. That's beside the point here.
She calls herself a feminist. The right wing has been railing against feminists for years. This is a topic that leaves many conservative men feeling deeply conflicted. If we want them to stay at home in November, we need to sow these seeds of doubt.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:46 PM
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9. Whatever makes you think her husband quit his job?
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:50 PM
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12. shouldn't we tell them honest facts though?
the dad didn't quit his job, show some proof if you think he did.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:57 PM
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16. If they cared about facts, they wouldn't be voting for McCain/Palin.
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:09 PM
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25. true- but if we lie that makes us just as bad as they are
We don't need to lie in order to win, they do.

According to that article, he isn't a stay at home dad and never really was. Maybe a "part time" at one point, but that's about it.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:52 PM
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14. (a) She's not a feminist; (b) They'll cheer for anything that pisses us off.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:00 PM
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17. Hannity is pushing this theme as a positive. I think I'll abstain.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:24 PM
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21. Funny how that works.
Now what would the Palin family look like if they were Democrats?

Her: Shrill, midwesterny sounding wacko librarian type who has reckless pregnancies and would rather selfishly devote time to her career rather than family, which is why the kid is knocked up.

Him: Total pussy. What man lets the wife take care of him? Or let's her become more famous than him. Bet he's whipped.

But self-reflection is not really their strong suit.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:34 PM
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22. This is brilliant
This is exactly the sort of jujitsu we need to be doing at this point in the campaign.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:34 PM
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26. He has not been a stay at home Dad..
He took a few months leave of absence from the work he does in the oil fields, but he went back..and that was last year. There was a video running around with a speech(?) Sarah Palin gave at a Church where she mentioned a nanny.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:57 AM
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28. You could go more along the lines of
I'm glad she keeps her husband in line, supporting the family working two jobs so that she can be governor.
Stress that she is powerful., while he's just an anonymous working stiff making a living she is tooling around running for office, fund raising, traveling around the country for various events, etc.

How much does Gov. of Alaska pay, BTW? Anyone know off hand?
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