"The sky is falling, the sky is falling" the moose killer is coming!!

[Peacetrain]

Holy moley. I come in and the first 5 threads are a melt down, because McCain got a bounce. With all the media attention to the fact he chose Palin, what did you think was going to happen.

They solidified their base. Of course he is going to get a bounce. They loved that raw meat message.

Gee whiz, I would not want "some" of these weak knee nellies in my fox hole in a fire fight. They would run off and leave me there :rofl:

Seriously, a bounce was pretty much expected. And now they have found their Joan of Arc, McCain is going to get bigger numbers at his stops. But do NOT despair so. John McCain blew it big time on the vetting process.

They are going to hide her out, and drill down to get her through the debates, and roll her out on Fox news or a sympathetic newscaster.

But there is no getting around the fact, that the race is between McCain and Obama, and Obama is going to win. McCain has nothing there .. there.

This is just the beginning of the real campaign. The conventions are over and now is the time we push back and hit the ground.

Unless of course, you lose heart, and abandon ship, before it has even sailed out of the harbor.

:rant:

[Liberal Veteran]

1. Some of these "Nervous Nellies" are still bitter from the primaries.

And pounce on every bit of negative news to support their pathology.

[Peacetrain]

2. What ever it is, its over the top

This is the good part, when you get to get in there and go toe to toe with the republicans on who has the better programs, and policies.

[DCBob]

3. Are you saying that the "sky is falling" posters are former Hillary supporters?

If that is true they need to STFU.

[Peacetrain]

5. The primaries are over..

but we do need to hit the ground hard, they (the republicans) are, and we need to do that also.

[Liberal Veteran]

13. Well one of them did make a Obama caucus comment.

Which certainly is a tired talking point.

[BlooInBloo]

20. +1

[Dawgs]

4. McCain is leading in polls where he should be down by 10.

I guess this election just means more to some than others. I can't afford another four years of this shit - maybe you can.

[DCBob]

7. Its a convention bounce. No need to freak out.

The Obama campaign knows what they are doing. Give it a couple of days and see where it is.

[Peacetrain]

10. absolutely..

[Dawgs]

12. I disagree. It's obvious they don't know what they're doing.

There is no way Obama shouldn't be up by 5 points(at a minimum).

He's running against someone that will continue with the Bush policies. And, when a new candidate joins the ticket that needs to be defined the Obama camp ignores her; letting the McCain camp do the defining.

And, this post-convention bounce will get bigger, not smaller.

Can you honestly say it should be this close? We are running against four more years of George Bush and you're telling me the Obama campaign knows what it's doing.

You're nuts.

[Peacetrain]

18. Call me all the names you want to

But, I fully expected the bounce. It is part and parcel of the campaigns . They bounced because they were talking to their believers.

Now we just have to make sure our believers get out there and work with the undecideds. That is who is going to choose. Not the people at the democratic convention or the people at the republican convention.

But what gets you there is a positive attitude.

And not sitting down before the race has even started.

Dawgs, they just dropped the hanky, the race has just started. Remember we are tougher than they are.

[Dawgs]

21. It's not about the bounce. It's the fact that he's leading where he should be down.

You tell me that "our believers" need to get out there; and I agree, but don't you think it would help if the Obama campaign was playing a little offense instead of ignoring someone that should be easy to bring down.

And, the bounce you expected isn't over.

[Peacetrain]

28. Again Dawgs, we are just at the start of this final leg of the race

And we are going to pull ahead, they will pull ahead, its going to be close. We have a pretty fractured country now. And those undecideds are maybe 15 %. And I am fighting for every one of them.

Here I am going to say something nice about the other side. They don't give up. Everyone has been telling them that they were going to lose everything, the house, the senate, the executive branch, and hopefully they will.

But if we fall apart everytime the polls go south on us, they are going to yank and grab some ground.

Well not an inch of ground from me.

This is just the start

[DCBob]

19. Chill dude. Give it a couple of days.

BTW, personal insults are not necessary.

[Dawgs]

23. You don't think the OP is personally insulting to some of us?

Why aren't you telling them that there insults aren't necessary?

[DCBob]

26. So what is your goal with all these negative attacks on the Obama campaign?

How is this helping defeat McCain?

[Dawgs]

30. Huh? I'm going after the campaign just like I would my favorite sports team.

I want to see them get aggressive and take the fight to McCain. It worked great the week of the convention. Now it seems like they're interested in doing what they did when McCain gained ground a few weeks ago. Why can't they continue to just stay on the attack?

[DCBob]

38. How about give them a couple of days to access the situation.

No doubt the Palin pick caught them a bit off gaurd. Plus the fact she is a woman complicates the attack strategy as we saw during the primaries. Every attack, legitimate or not, may be taken as sexist or misogynist. There is plenty of time to go on the attack, if need be.

[apocalypsehow]

31. That's a bullshit reply - the OP did not insult you or anyone else. You, on the other hand, seem to

lack the requisite intelligence to do much else. This "I read an opinion I didn't like so I find it insulting" is really low IQ stuff. Grow up.

[Dawgs]

33. It's not a bullshit reply. You don't consider the way he mocked some of us insulting?

And, you're telling me to grow up after you jumped into someone else's discussion is childish - and on a discussion board no less.

Ignoring the 5+ McCain lead, and mocking others, ain't going to win it for Obama. So, while you guys continue to act like pussies I'm gonna try convince Obama to do the things he needs to do.

[apocalypsehow]

39. Yeah, get back to us when Obama announces he's firing his entire campaign staff after listening

to an anonymous poster on an internet website somewhere named "Dawgs"...

:rofl: :eyes:

[President_Obama]

46. He is the Dawg, the big, bad Dawg!

[DCBob]

40. It was the "your nuts" comment that was the most troubling.

[americanstranger]

47. First election, eh? n/t

- as

[Peacetrain]

8. So what are you going to do?

Let them play you, or take it to them. We have the better canidate, we have the better policies,

[Dawgs]

14. Of course, take it to them. Do the defining of Palin.

Do you honestly think that the Republicans wouldn't go after Obama if picked someone with as little experience as Palin? Someone who they hide from the press? Someone that went after his service as a faith-based community organizer? They would have done those things, and it would have worked.

[renie408]

9. No, I think it means just as much to those of us who are NOT running around like chickens with our

heads cut off.

But SEE, hand wringing, breast beating and angst are not exactly PROFITABLE pastimes. Satisfying emotionally to some, but not terribly productive.

[Peacetrain]

11. I guess I'm a fighter

:) Now is when it gets good. This is what we all worked for for the last 2 years.. Not only the Obama people but the supporters of every other canidate that ran.. We worked for these last 60 days when it would be us against them (republicans) :hi:

[Dawgs]

15. You don't think going after her experience and defending community organizers wouldn't work?

How long have you been following politics?

[renie408]

6. It is so much more satisfying to assume that if *cough* someone else *cough* had won the nomination

They would be leading by 20 points right now.

[baby_mouse]

16. You're so right. I'm almost glad the Dems don't really listen to the people on this website.

[Sugarcoated]

17. Many here are lacking in the mental toughness area

[Peacetrain]

34. Yep, I think we bought into the press meme, that this was going to be a cakewalk

And they are not going to hand over the reins of power and just leave. We have to get a little tougher hides, and when they dig in , we dig too.. :hi:

[renie408]

43. Yep. The going get tough and the really NOT tough start whining. n/t

[Cha]

22. I'd fire those weak nellies from my

campaign. They're a distraction and don't have the nerves of steele it takes to win.

[Dawgs]

25. Really. Who the fuck said we're giving up?

We're the ones that are looking to go on the attack when we're down.

You can't win in a game by just playing defense if you're already losing.

[Cha]

27. ..

[Dawgs]

35. I'm sorry, but that's not the way it works.

If you're losing to the underdog when you should be leading by 10 points then something's gotta change. And trying to define Palin would be a good start.

I love Obama, but he doesn't have it right now.

[Cha]

42. Sorry, but I trust the one whom I voted for over

some anonymous computer chair analyst on the internet.

The way it works is.. Obama is handling this, handwringer.

[opihimoimoi]

45. The Man has come this far and he not gonna let a schooled Mayor/Gov

hijack anything.

McStupid is flaing...went with long odds...enter Babe look to confuse enemy...thats us and indy's,

He is EMPTY as they come....its all slogans and BS

[Liberal Veteran]

32. Then attack ALREADY. Them, not us.

Bringing down the morale isn't going help.

[Kdillard]

24. Amen honestly didn't we expect this after his convention?

Now all we have to do is not get panicked by every poll. We need to keep focused on doing whatever little we can to help Obama and Biden by volunteering or writing letters and donations. Obama and Biden need to focus on getting prepared for the debates and visiting swing states etc. He has said he intends to win this thing either we are with him or not.

[Dawgs]

29. I didn't expect his campaign to ignore someone that attacks community service.

People are dumb and they need to be spoon-fed this shit.

Remember, Bush won a second term after fucking up 9/11 and the Iraq war.

[BumRushDaShow]

37. The community service comment has already rallied those organizations

and particularly the faith-based ones who had gravitated to Shrub in the past (for his "Faith-based Initiatives" program), and Poppy (for his "Thousand Points of Light"), towards Obama. That snipe has netted Obama a group of voters who the Democratic Party has been trying to get. Today is Sunday and it would have been interesting to be a fly on the wall in churches everywhere across the U.S.

And as a note to you - here in Philly, the day after the repuke convention (last Friday), Obama started running the "McLame is against abortions" ad on the Arbitron top-rated radio stations here, every frickin' hour on the hour. He did a HUGE buy. As I understand, the ad aired in at least 7 states (and I think it was up to 10 as PA hadn't been listed in the news articles, although it played here). The ad is about as strident as one could get without being gutter. It's pretty strong and very targeted at the fact that McPalin wants to overturn Roe v Wade.

Obama is doing narrow-targeting to different regions of the country. In the U.S., as we should know by now, "one size does not fit all". Sadly I think that people see the national ads and think that is all there is but that is very far from the truth!!!

[opihimoimoi]

36. Rally round the Flag guys....the Pubs went all in with PTA Mom

When the dust settles...McGramps gonna get his ass kicked in for gross STUPIDITY....

[Peacetrain]

41. I am with you on this one!

He blew his first real executive decision in a major way

[opihimoimoi]

44. What a Chilling Message...He said it was all about PERSONAL AMBITION

This confirms it.....He is no ready for Prime Time...Never will be....Egotistical, Anger Probs, Vindictive, Condescending, Myopic, Bullyesque, Liar, cheater, Secretive, etc

What can I say? If he gets in...we are fucking DOOMED...the ultimate loose cannon