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Palin appeared on Charlie Rose on Oct. 15, 2007, with Janet Napolitano, Governor (D) of Arizona, after the first guest, an actress. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-10808525481790...I listened to it and typed out this transcript of Palin's parts, skipping Napolitano's answers with angle brackets. Everything revolves around oil and gas. Right off the bat, she completely disregards Charlie's question about education and launches right into oil and gas. She lies about the Bridge to Nowhere and claims credit for stopping it. Several times she deflects questions. On health care, she blatantly dithers and then throws it over to Napolitano to rescue her. Sarah Palin on Charlie Rose with Janet Napolitano, Democratic Governor of Arizona, at the famous table, Oct. 15, 2007. Both were in New York to attend ... some women in government conference ... 36:00 appr. Rose:
Napolitano:
40:20
Rose: Do you see Education the same way, i.e. as a significant
challenge for a governor, because it's primarily a state
responsibility?
Palin (wearing large flag on flagpole lapel pin): Well, absolutely, it
is. For the state of Alaska, though, our biggest issues are energy
issues, so that we can pay for a world class education system up
there. Our energy issues surround the fact that Alaska is very very
wealthy in reserves, oil and gas reserves, but we are not given the
ability right now, or I guess the permission some to go ahead and
develop those resources and flow that oil and gas into the United
States of America to help secure our United States so that we can quit
being so reliant on foreign sources, but a clean safe domestic supply
of energy being produced in Alaska. Again we are very rich in the
reserves, we just need the ability to tap them and flow into hungry
markets our oil and our gas, so development of our resources ...
Rose: are you speaking of conservationists or Washington or who that
you think is providing the principle impediment?
Palin : Those who want
to make the decisions for Alaska, yet, usually from the east coast,
yeah, maybe not trusting that Alaska can, ....
Rose: But is it the Congress, primarily responsible?
Palin: In some respects, but also some of the larger oil companies who
hold the leases and have the right to develop our resources, who may
look at Alaska's resources as being in competition with their foreign
sources of energy that they are developing; so once Alaska is allowed
to very responsibly and safely develop our resources we'll lower costs
of energy across the United States and that would allow Arizona to
fund an even greater education system and we'd be able to secure the
United States with a clean domestic supply of energy. looks unconvinced]
Rose: Why can't you convince environmentalists of that?
Palin: You know environmentalists are right on board with us with our
proposal to build a natural gas pipeline through Alaska and then flow
that energy into the rest of the United States. Environmentalists
have great concerns about some other development proposals like in
ANWAR and offshore drilling and we are working on that, we're working
with them. But we have to prove our way if you will in Alaska, we
have to prove that we can do this cleanly, that we can do this safely
and that's what I think my administration is standing for, doing it
right.
Rose: Where was that highway that Senator Stevens wanted to build?
Palin: He wanted to build a bridge.
Napolitano: a bridge
Rose: A bridge, A $300 million bridge, that's right.
Palin: Bridge. We stopped that because we'll make real sensible
decisions using other peoples money, you know federal government's
money. It is money that is based on the highway transportation
formula so it is Alaska's money at this point, but we'll make some
wise decisions to build up our infrastructure.
Rose: Did you get any feedback because of your decision on that?
Palin: from those in Congress?
Rose: Yes
Palin: Yes I did, but Alaskans are supportive of just making some real
wise decision with other people's money. broadly]
Rose: ...
45:20 Rose: What policies, better question, smarter question, iswhat
policies, what is when we talk about that, and we'll go back to Alaska
on this, everybody knows that this election, for the Presidency, will
be decided sort of with the 10 % undecided in the middle, independent,
correct? A hard core is Democratic and a hard core is Republican, and
they're pretty much going to vote with whoever the party standard
bearer is. In the middle there, is what will determine the election.
What are those issues that will sway them, are they lifetime issues,
are they education, healthcare, security?
Napolitano: <... health care ...>
46:24 Rose: How do you see it?
Palin: National security issues, I think, you know. Candidates are
going to be asked, are you doing, even as a candidate, and are your
intentions to do all that you can to secure these United States and I
think every elected official needs to ask themselves that. And I say
that Charlie, even personally, my one and only son, my 18 year old, he
just signed up for the army, he is at boot camp right now, and I'm
thinking, you know, this kid is doing all that he can within his power
with to help secure and defend the United States. Every elected
official had better be asking themselves, are you doing as much also,
are you doing all that you can, certainly on the presidential
election, in that scene, that's what's going to be asked of candidates
and I think he or she who ends up on top of that issue will get those
independent votes.
Rose: Who do you think?
Palin: I'm undecided because I haven't heard a lot of discussion to
the degree that I want to hear about doing all that we can to secure
these United States, and not just militarily, but again with our
energy issues, are we to be holden to unstable regimes right now, are
we at their beck and call, those who would potentially cut off a
supply of energy to the United States.
Rose: Do you know what the Bush Administration energy policy is?
Palin: Well, we hear about it through the media, yes
Napolitano: You are presuming there is one. I'm looking for it, but
that's ok. <... National Guard ...>
Palin: I think it's our biggest responsibility, I do the National
Guard also in Alaska, the troops that we have serving overseas
also. What a responsibility we have to make sure that they are taken
care of, that their families are being taken care of, also, that's on
our watch, and very significant, lots of accountability there, and I
cherish that role that we have also.
Rose: A lot of people think that 2008 is going to a Democratic year?
Are you worried about that?
Palin: I'm not worried about that. I want the best person
elected, I want the best policies and ideas to be ushered in via the
vote in 08.
Rose: What do you think that the people of Alaska are looking for in
their next leader?
Palin: My goodness I'm going to bore you if I keep talking about
energy issues, but Alaskans want to know that there is going to be
ethics reform in government overall, we are dealing with that up in
Alaska in our legislature. We got some really good officials in our
legislature who just passed some ethics reform package, saying, you
know what, set a new direction on the state level, we want to see that
on a federal level also, so commitment to ethics reform, the
commitment to that sovereignty belonging to America, that independence
there in America, again not relying on foreign sources of security or
energy or anything else.
Rose: Is your husband in the energy field?
Palin: Yes, he's an oil producer up on the North Slope. He separates
the oil and gas in a field in Prudhoe Bay.
Rose: What would he advise Bill Clinton about being a wife, the husband,
the spouse of a chief executive?
Palin: My husband Todd, they refer to him First dude....
Rose: First of all, Clinton is looking something,
if she is elected, a name, so First Dude might be it.
Palin: That is so Todd, he's a world champ snowmachine racer, Iron
Dog, he won that a few times, and I think he would advise ...
Rose: He like's being first dude.
Palin: He likes being first dude because he gets to pick and choose
what he wants to focus on. His focus is workforce development. He
wants Alaskans, the young people there to be raised up, and skilled
up, ready to fill the workforce needs instead of importing our
workforce.
Rose:
Napolitano: <... immigration ...>
52:47
Rose: Anything that I'm missing here in terms of the responsibilities
of governor when you look at the challenge, how about health care?
Palin : Huge, huge, huge,
sometimes its such a huge issue we don't even broach the subject in an
interview like this, Charlie, because it is so needed, reform,
availability of health care for all.
Rose: It is one issue, war is obviously the biggest issue certainly
facing the American public, based on every poll I've seen ... but
second in terms of domestic issues, it is clearly health care.
Everybody that I have seen or interviewed who is a candidate is saying
that it is desperately in need of attention.
Palin: Well it is, you know what we are doing up there in Alaska. I
don't want to reinvent any kind of wheelbarrow. There have been so
many very wise think tanks and taskforce and user groups and
stakeholders coming together for years trying to solve this issue.
What we have done in Alaska is to, I guess, create another taskforce
but one to inventory what the good ideas are from across the nation
and plug in those the successes, because again no one single governor
has a silver bullet and is going cure the ills caused by an inadequate
health care system. I'm sure you too, Janet, in your state, it is
high, high on your agenda ...
Napolitano: < catches the ball ...>
54:40
Rose: Thank you.
Palin: Thank you so much.
Napolitano: Thank you.
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