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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:49 PM
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Let's compare apples to apples - all the candidates at 25 yrs old -when O was a community organizer
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 11:10 PM by Pirate Smile
Obama had graduated from Columbia and decided to help people by becoming a community organizer.

McCain was crashing planes in the Navy. The last crash (POW) wouldn't happen until he was in his 30's.

Biden was in Law School.

Palin was working as a sports caster.


See how the work Obama chose to do at 25 is so much more ridiculous then the upstanding and virtuous work Sarah did at 25. She wouldn't become a Mayor until her 30's at which point Obama would have already been been the President of the Harvard Law Review (at 29 years old - same age Biden was elected to the Senate - whoops - no, Obama was 28), a Civil Rights Lawyer and a Constitutional Law Professor. What a slacker.


We can now see how Obama's choices are so worthy of ridicule.

:sarcasm:


edit to correct Obama's age re when he was elected President of the Harvard Law Review - he was 28, not 29.

"The new president of the Review is Barack Obama, a 28-year-old graduate of Columbia University who spent four years heading a community development program for poor blacks on Chicago's South Side before enrolling in law school."

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/Subjects/E/Education%20and%20Schools
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:50 PM
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1. Excellent. Thank you. K&R.
Who are the light weights here?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:05 PM
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4. I know. So many different things irritate the hell out of me about the slams on organizers.
The apples to oranges comparison of the time frames wasn't even the main one but I still thought I would point it out. :)
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:51 PM
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2. yeah, but she's hawt...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:53 PM
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3. So's Obama. Moreso even. Way.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:08 PM
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5. rec 4
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:29 PM
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6. I'd like to know what Palin did prior to running for mayor, and wasn't that
just 6 years ago in 2002?

I'm lost. What has she done of any great public service prior to 2002?

Motherhood, den mother, hockey-mom, PTA, etc. do not count, if it did, I could be the next President, too (well, of course, I'd have to settle for VP first, but you know what I mean.)
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:30 PM
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7. Anyone who has to use PTA experience on her resume for the job of VP...
should shut up already about "community organizers."
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:08 AM
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8. Also, what were Obama and Sarah Palin doing three years ago?
Obama was a US Senator three years ago.

Sarah Palin was the mayor of a small town three years ago.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 04:39 AM
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9. Great point. Just watch out for the NYT article though. He had not spent 4 years in Chicago
as a community organizer after being graduated from Columbia. He was in NY for about two years, one on Wall Street, one with a not for profit, before going to Chicago. Check his wiki.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:25 AM
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10. twenty years ago, Obama chose to be a community organizer, while McW
was negotiating bribes from Charles Keating.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:27 AM
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11. kick!
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:58 AM
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12. Look up Saul Alinsky.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky

A friend of mine used to work with Saul Alinsky and Cesar Chavez.

From Rules for Radicals:

"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution. To bring on this reformation requires that the organizer work inside the system, among not only the middle class but the 40 per cent of American families - more than seventy million people - whose income range from $5,000 to $10,000 a year . They cannot be dismissed by labeling them blue collar or hard hat. They will not continue to be relatively passive and slightly challenging. If we fail to communicate with them, if we don't encourage them to form alliances with us, they will move to the right. Maybe they will anyway, but let's not let it happen by default.."

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