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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:37 PM
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Will there be a pool on when Palin will drop out?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:38 PM
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1. she's in it for the long haul
thank goodness
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:39 PM
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2. I think so too. n/t
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:39 PM
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3. I don't believe for a second that she will drop out. It will never happen.
However, this is only my opinion and not from the mouth of God or Sauron.
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:39 PM
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4. At Intrade
The 'stock' on that possibility is rising :)

Sarah Palin to be withdrawn as Republican VP nominee/candidate before 2008 presidential election

Last Price: 5.7 up 0.8

www.intrade.com
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Caribou Barbie Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:40 PM
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7. wishful thinking
she isn't going anywhere... and I'm glad... she is a white trash lottery of scandal
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:52 PM
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13. I agree with you
We're much better off with her, she's like a Democratic community organizer of sorts!
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Bubbha Jo Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:42 PM
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8. I bought some play shares last night....
Hope I do GREAT.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:39 PM
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5. What makes you think she will?
She really wants to be President any way she can get it...

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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:40 PM
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6. It's more likely that McCain would drop off at this point.
McCain is no longer in control. The extreme right wing and their puppet Palin are running the show.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:42 PM
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9. She's not dropping out, no matter what surfaces
We're past that point. The moron public loves her.
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:44 PM
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10. Are you kidding me?
Did you see the poll results today - http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/palin_power_fresh_face_now_more_popular_than_obama_mccain"> Palin more popular than McCain, Obama?

McCain's back was against the wall, he rolled the dice, and it looks like a good move. She's energizing the evangelical and conservative base, and the media piling on here is making her even more popular. The best thing Democrats could do now is just ignore her. Otherwise, you're just feeding the fire. This election is going to come down to turnout, and you don't want to give the paranoid, world-and-liberal-media-against-us GOP even more reason to come out on Nov. 4.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:46 PM
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11. Understand that you're not dealing with a rational person
She does not see the world the way "rational" people -- like us! :-) -- see it. She does not recognize her own incompetence, her own lack of experience. If she did, she would dismiss them.

ALL THAT MATTERS TO HER IS THE GOAL. She has the psychological ability -- some would call it a flaw -- to completely divorce herself from the reality that she herself expects everyone else to live in.

This is probably true to some extent about anyone who sets very high personal goals in any field, because the effort required to achieve those goals depends on single-minded concentration. Think Michael Phelps, for one.

Taken to an extreme, of course, it becomes pathological.



Or so believes



Tansy Gold


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seabeckind Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:14 PM
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15. Bush redux
I agree completely. As I look at her I see Bush all over again and it really scares me. I think she really believes that she is destined to be president someday -- and soon. If she were rational she wouldn't be where she is. A rational person would realize that the nomination is way beyond their abilities and not accept it.

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:47 PM
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12. If she made it through convention, she's in to the end.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:55 PM
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14. At this point
I predict that the old guy running with her will drop out first.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:19 PM
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16. Looks like you just started one
I say, next Thursday. 4:00.

Who's the bagman?
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:38 PM
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17. Two big problems with it--One is Palin--the other's McCain.
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 11:39 PM by vixengrl
Sarah Palin is currently under an ethics investigation. It's not her first. This past week I've tried to nail down what it was about her that made me so fascinated with her, what she had that both riveted and appalled me--and then I got it.

She has self-involvement without self-awareness. When she's right, she just *is*, and the Lord spake from a bush, and that was that. You look like a potential troublemaker in Sarah's big plans for Wasilla? You could be out http://www.adn.com/sarahpalin/story/510219.html --and if you won't enforce a book ban, her eyes are on you. That's brass, right there. Does it make her look like a little tinpot dictator? Ah, well. In that little town, all she could think about was being in charge of something bigger. All I've heard about is her lowering property taxes to get businesses in, while at the expense of residents, she raised sales taxes; and hiring that lobbyist to get more Fed money to grow the town more, but not to attend to stuff that might have been useful to the residents.

Like a sewage treatment plant--vs. all the trouble she went to for a sports complex. I understand the sports comlex is nice and is used a lot, but still. Style--not substance. She ran on being a Christian, not on potholes and PTA. When she neared the end of her term, she was already angling for onward & upward. Her spot on the energy comission that got her the reputation as a reformer seems to have come about because of a, well, *snit.* She go into it with someone, they pissed her off, and she hacked their computer. I'm not sure that's exactly how it went down--but sounds like it to me.

And then she's the same way as governor--line-item vetoing stuff pretending she's against gov't waste, that the state legislature has to put back in as being necessary, while she's behind over $500 million in porkbarrel "asks" like that Bridge to Nowhere. And starting beefs with Dept heads over personnel she has issues with, like her ex-brother-in-law.

You want to try and explain, after saying you vetted her, after asking her, after her saying yes, outing her kid's personal business (did McCain even know until the last minute? Seriously.) after she causes all this hype and got all this attention at the convention--that she should step down because come to find out she "isn't a good fit?"

Oh hell no, she wouldn't. Not this one. Here's an opportunity to do some real stuff, now that they explained to her what a VP can do. She will stick this out--drop out? "Thanks, but no thanks."

The ball would be back in McCain's court. You remember him--he's the Maverick who picked her. There's a couple of things we need to square away about him. First, he's kind of needing to reestablish his Maverick cred, because the "McSame" logic just might stick. Second, I think he doesn't like any better being told what to do than Palin does. And then, he's "old school." This is a Lady's Honor he's defending. Even better than the pitiful pearl clutching over the bastards who would demean his POW experience by implying that did not give him super-executive mad skills, would be the manly interpolation of his honorable self between the evil media, and the beset-upon-by-barbarians Sarah Palin. The damsel fair should be protected, for she is Conservative GOLD. No press--just fund-raisers.

(Caribou Barbie depreciates in value when you take her out of the box--don't you know.)

If he is made to say his campaign made a mistake, it could only be if some relevation so evilly scandalous like, I dunno, some Great Northern Slope Spouse Swap scenario swarmed up from the tabloid depths with anything like plausibility attached. Or, like, if she killed a guy. That would be bad, too. Otherwise, it would be going back on his word. And word is bond, yo, when you're old school like McCain. He'd have to go through some political stages of grief:

1) Denial. "She never was part of any such scandal. She's a fine person, so stop saying that."

2) Anger: "You journalists and especially you bloggers, don't make me angry. You won't like me when I'm angry."

3) Bargaining, "Hey, maybe she and Joe Lieberman can take turns as VP--he's got enough sanctimony for two people!"

4)Depression: "People say I'm in a depression, but I say that's really just psychological."

5) Acceptance: "Now that the Secret Service have separated Sarah from my leg, and Joe Lieberman from my other leg, I am happy to announce that I am running with a card-board cut-out of Ronald Reagan, who is standing in for a Republican to be named later. May rhyme with 'bridge...' No? May rhyme with...."

6) Lather, rinse repeat: "This is an upstanding gentleman who has been supremely well-vetted and we all love the heck out of him, Newt Gingrich, everybody...." Crickets. "You can clap." Crickets. "What was it, the ex-wives or the crappy books? Help me out here...I'm running out of time! Is there a Dr. in the house?"

The McCain/Paul ticket, while weird, would get so much train-wreck gawker attention, that it would sweep into the White House just so people had the promise of a new reality show. It would only last one trm, because four years is about how long a reality show remains enjoyable. But that's politics.

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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:58 PM
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18. Weird--"views" and "replies" on this thread balance out.
That *never* happens. I just noticed--17-17. Very weird.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:52 AM
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19. I'm inclined to think she
will drop out. I'm not going to flatly predict it, but this does feel a lot like the Eagleton thing in 72.
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