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Riddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:58 PM
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How in the hell do these assholes get away with it?
Just saw a McAsshole ad that blamed the deficit and unbalanced budget on the Democrats! Are these people residing in a parallel universe, or do they think the voting public is?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:01 PM
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1. repubs know that telling a lie gets the job done, they never explain, just tell it nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:02 PM
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2. They 'think' their fascist allies bought control of broadcast media in the 80s and 90s. And....
they're right, aren't they?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:02 PM
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3. yes they do believe the public is stupid, but they are going to be in for a surprise
They have hurt too many people this time
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Artful_Dodger Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:05 PM
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4. The voting public.....
Ummm. Well, maybe the voting public is unhinged. Look at the results of the 04 elction. How else can you explain it? :wtf:
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:46 PM
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5. Yes, they are living in a parallel universe: Discussed this with a guy at work today.
I asked him why he thought there was such an angry, vengeful response in the RNC crowd to the ugly, angry bullying on the last night.

I was starting to think it was the class war: Resenting Obama's PHD in law from Harvard because alot of small-town thinking is limited and frustrated by the larger, educated, informed world.

That's how I was trying to explain their anger and fury.

But he said something I had never thought of.

I am a New York State product, all my life. Never been to the south. Never experienced much in the way of racism first hand. Never lived in a big city where race issues played out in my personal life. Ok, now I love the city, but I have to admit my income (just a teacher) sheilds me from experiencing the harsh realities of poverty and prejudice.

He said, that, (speaking generally, here) in the south, racism is a functioning part of society for very poor whites. It was his opinion that bigotry is the last compensation for very limited, uneducated, disadvantaged whites.

Many whites who sense they're on the lower rungs of society's ladder (and sometimes these people do cling to fundamentalism as an escape) find some relief from their negative self concept by assigning the lowest rung of all to blacks. It's an arbitrary assignment to an arbitrary group based on psychology instead of logic.

That's why, no matter how many times you argue about freedom, health insurance, war, oil company handouts, and Palin's own failure to meet her own family values standards falls on deaf ears.

He also added that some rich people proudly protect their assets because they lack compassion for those who were born to limited opportunity. It's justified racism and selfishness.

So, you find a coalition between the rich and poor that just plain makes no sense at all. Logically, the poor whites should resent their rich party counterparts, and non-religious people should resent the prostlyatizing of fundies. But they don't.

The common denominator is race: Blacks must provide them with a target for their disdain, even when they will often revere black athletes and performers.

So the claim that Barack is a celebrity is actually an interesting question: Should he be afforded the acclaim and status that black sports/music/film heroes enjoy? To the average bigot, the only way they can acknowledge the humanity in Barack and his family is to assign them this different space in their perception of the world. The choice is between contempt and reverence.

It's alot like the feminist madonna/whore identity. Films tend to place female characters in either role. Bigots feel Barack is asking to jump the line and be taken from the group assignment of contemptuous to celebrity.

Thus, "He thinks he's a celebrity: He thinks we can accept him." And that's why "community organizer" is their hang up. It's code word for black, but it also their impression that he's putting himself ahead of the other blacks, and in their minds, he's trying to say he's as good as white people. He's better than they are.

Because, in their (bigots) limited map of reality, there is no identity called "normal, regular, average, guy-next-door" black man. The choices are felon or Eddie Murphy.
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:04 PM
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7. Great post!
Which it had its own thread so I could recommend it!
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:30 PM
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11. Thanks. Not sure I want all the attention.......
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:59 PM
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6. Obama's biggest weakness is that he's a Democrat. Seriously.
For decades the Republicans have been saying that Democrats will raise your taxes, increase the size of the government, destroy family values, take your guns away and let the enemies of the country overrun us. And half the country automatically believes it.

Democrats only win when Republicans completely, utterly fuck up. Carter won due to Watergate. Clinton won due to Bush running on "Read my lips, no new taxes" and then raising taxes, utterly blowing his credibility on that issue. Clinton won again due to Gingrich having a tantrum and shutting the government down. And Obama will mainly (hopefully) win because the Republicans have been totally running the country for eight years in the worst manner imaginable. And it's still close! If Bush were running for a third term, he would probably still be polling around 40%.

Half of America just doesn't trust Democrats, because Democrats are the party of big government, higher taxes and cultural decay. It's all lies but people still believe it.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:07 PM
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8. The voting public has proven itself to be stupid.
So why should the Republicans stop with the nonsense?
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:12 PM
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9. 2000,2004
They are playing the same music. :mad:
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:51 PM
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10. No, it's much worse
Bush ran a very good campaign in 2000. Gore had tons of advantages and Bush still managed to lie to the country and disguise himself as a Republican version of what Clinton was. It worked well enough to steal the election, figuratively and literally.

In 2004... yeah, this is similar to 2004, except far less competent. It's like the Republicans aren't even trying. They outright say the campaign isn't about the issues. They pick the worst VP candidate in history. They throw away their strongest arguments and plagiarize Obama's messages. They *declare war on the media*! They don't even BOTHER to pretend to have real policies! And it's still close!
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