"Jesus Christ was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor."

[sabra]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/Democrat_reader_email_of_the_day_so_far.html?showall

Democrat reader email of the day (so far)

"Mrs. Palin needs to be reminded that Jesus Christ was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor."

[Cassandra]

1. I was just going there.

Loaves and fishes and all that.

[skooooo]

4. I already went there...

...in another post.

Get ready for the "separation of church and state" brigade -- which I am usually a member of. I think this calls for fighting the Republicans on their own hypocritical terms. Catholic charities have already denounced her statement as well.

[WinkyDink]

7. And likewise with a thread, I'm sure. :)

[goodgd_yall]

25. Definitely

If she's going to dis community organizers and we know she purports to be a christian, we need to point out the hypocrisy of her dissing.

[FatDave]

34. As a proud member of the "separation of church and state brigade"...

...or as I like to call us, America, I have no problem whatsoever with you using their religion to point out their own hypocrisy.

[Sebastian Doyle]

2. Oh my God!! (No pun intended)

I have to remember that one. :rofl:

[Island Blue]

3. Brilliant.

Instant bumper sticker.

[WeDidIt]

5. That's a keeper!

[villager]

6. Wow. The "Pilate" addition makes the line even better...

n/t

[Sequoia]

20. Yes it sure does....washing my hands, no blood here.

[patrice]

8. Bingo! As anti-religious as I am. I must admit The Bible IS alive in an odd sort of way, you can't

quite make into absolutes, i.e. this = that, but it does point the way to truths.

P.S. Literature was a big part of my undergraduate degree in Language Arts. I'm a wordie. Words are very interesting to me. Quite lively.

[Overseas]

9. Love this one !!

And I hope it gets to some of the evangelicals (vs. fundamentalists) also. Let them see the fundamentalist babe smearing their good work in her major national speech.

[PurityOfEssence]

10. Gosh, is it possible to play into their hand any better than that?

In case anyone hasn't been paying attention, one of the chief lines of attack is that Obama thinks he's not only too big for his britches, but has some kind of delusion of divinity. Those who don't "get" the serious disgust from the right along these lines seem to be running the herd over here.

Jesus got killed because he took on Religion Incorporated; give me a ring when Senator Obama does something remotely similar. Pilate was just local military chieftan trying to keep a lid on things.

[patrice]

14. Point well made. Though I do think the operative word here is "a", not "the", and real Christians

ARE called to model their behavior on that of Jeshua, a man, while avoiding blasphemy and identifying with "God" by speaking on "his" behalf like so many of those who would attack Obama on being "the One" do.

I guess I'm saying when they bring that kind of stuff up, it IS a sword that cuts both ways and all we need to do is be ready to make certain points.

Religion is their BASE; let's take them on.

[patrice]

18. I also think one of my biggest reasons wanting to take them on on this is Homophobia.

Their entire justification against gays comes from their blaspheming religion. If we run from Religion, we can't say that.

[redqueen]

11. Indeed. But the Republicans don't like Jesus.

He messes up all their emotionally-stunted "ew! gays!" bullshit.

[LynneSin]

13. Republican fundies are Paulists

They follow more what Paul did than what Jesus did. Hell if they followed what Jesus did we'd have no wars, no AIDs epidemic, no hunger and alot of world peace.

[redqueen]

15. SPOT ON! They are Paulians, but use Jesus' name to trick people.

I wish that notion were more popularly-understood... the Jesus / Paul split.

Maybe they don't understand it themselves, what they're doing. Wish it were something that could be put into a sound byte.

[BrklynLiberal]

48. This is an interesting website..

http://www.jesusisaliberal.org/

[redqueen]

51. Thank you! I'm going to enjoy perusing that,

I think.

:hi:

[LynneSin]

12. Jesus also had no money, no wife and no personal possessions...

...he had no gun, he had to rely on handouts from friends and admirers and oh he also scorned the religious nutjobs too.

And Jesus taught us to pray in silence and not judge others. He never said anything about abortions or homosexuality and he was famous for saying it was easier for a camel to go thru the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Geez that last one is totally ignored especially considering that Cindy McCain wore on her ears what cost more than my house AND my neighbors house combined.

[BrklynLiberal]

16. Some interestng comments. Did anyone realize that Cindy McCain's mustard stained outfit

was so expensive?

One of the persistent memes in the Republican line of attack against Barack Obama is the notion that he is an elitist, whereas the G.O.P. represent real working Americans like Levi ?F-in? Redneck? Johnston.

Cindy McCain took the stage Tuesday night wearing some rather fancy designer clothes. Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000 Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500 Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000 Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000?$25,000 Shoes, designer unknown: $600 Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100 BY MY CALCULATION THAT IS ABOVE THE APPROXIMATE MEDIAN HOUSE PRICE IN AMERICA.

[patrice]

22. She got mustard on that dress? Really?? She'll probably NEVER wear it again.

[BrklynLiberal]

39. I meant that it seemed like the entire dress had been dyed witha jar of mustard..

sorry for the ambiguous statement..

[patrice]

40. I'm confused. I thought it was green. Last night?

[BrklynLiberal]

41. No. You are not confused. It is me who is. I did not watch last night..

so the mustard dress was the night before..:blush:

[patrice]

42. No need to be embarassed. Though it seems as though it has taken forever, things are moving

kind of fast now.

[vaberella]

17. Can we get a t-shirt of that or a banner?! n/t

[john l]

19. Community Organizers & Governors

Food for thought: Question - Who has a lower approval rating
than Bush? Answer - U.S. Senators. 
And what do our two major political parties offer us for
Presidential candidates? Well. Let's see.

McCain, Romney, Obama, Clinton, Edwards. Jeez, what do they
all have in common? They're U.S. Senators! As is Biden for VP.

Apparently the theory is that if you cut a lame horse out of
the herd and strap an expensive saddle on it, you get a
thouroghbred. Lot of luck in that!

[patrice]

37. I know all of this case and agree to some point, BUT many of us will continue to work

for substantive CHANGE after the GE. We'll see where it goes and I think it's a better alternative to the logical extension of just saying it's all corrupt and opting to break the system by going for a 3rd party thing, or not voting, which is VIOLENT REVOLUTION IN THE STREETS.

:hi: Welcome to DU john! Enjoy! :hi:

[berni_mccoy]

47. Need to do your homework. Obama's approval rating is 59%. And Romney is not a senator.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. Push the meme! Watch the hard-core 19% heads explode! . . . nt

[skooooo]

23. Haha their heads will explode!!

[Duncan Grant]

24. That's brilliant.

Liberal Christians should get that into their church bulletins. :thumbsup:

[Barack_America]

26. And I happen to be re-reading "The Master and Margarita" right now...

So the contrast between the two is particularly interesting.

[skooooo]

27. I love that book!!!

It's a masterpiece!!

[The Craw]

28. Jesus also helped the poor, healed the sick, and advocated peace:

All the things Republicans hate

which always made my ask why they worship Jesus- when the Repugs hate everything Jesus stood for?

As Mike Malloy once said, if Jesus ever came back, these Republican Christians would ship him off the Guantanamo bay to be tortured.

[silverlib]

29. And the "Country First" slogan...

how Christian is that?

Seems rather anti-christ to me.

[WA98070]

30. If we push this the RW will say we equate Obama to Jesus...How about all Christians

are suppose to be Community Organizers.

[skooooo]

33. I see what you're saying...

..but that may be a minor price to pay?

:shrug:

[patrice]

36. Politely Point out what blaspheming, idolatorous, hypocrits they are.

How do they know your mind about Obama, unless they are God?

Re taxes: Do they worship money more than taking care of our responsibilities to one another, to our nation?

How is it possible to be against killing clumps of cells in the uteruses of strangers and in favor of killing Iraqi children? Why is that not hypocrisy?

Be polite, but STOP running from them.

[WinkyDink]

31. I just ordered buttons from zazzle.com with that "slogan".

[KittyWampus]

32. awesome.

[workinclasszero]

35. SWEET! And thank you Jesus!

I hope you all realize that if Christ walked among us today the republicans would hate him and call him a low life for hanging around the homeless, prostitutes, addicts and the poor.

Then they would condemn him as a socialist/communist.

Jesus told the rich man to give all his posessions to the poor and follow him. He said its easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to pass through the gates of heaven!

He told the story of the poor homeless and sick man begging at the gate of the rich man. The poor man died and went to paradise while the rich man went straight to hades!

How do you think Bush, McCain, Palin, any damn rethuglin, Dr Dobson, 99 percent of TV preachers and wall street would react to that???

But hey they all go to church every sunday and play like their Christian...

[robertpaulsen]

38. Martin Luther King was a community organizer too.

I think both he and Jesus were Christians. :think:

[judasdisney]

50. Best comment here on this thread.

[Tesibria]

43. Yeah ..

went there in another post too ... and noted further:


Isn't it the Republican party's position that community and faith-based organizations address social problems better than the government can?

And ...

Wasn't McCain and the Republican party (appropriately) highlighting both the need and the value of the Red Cross and related community organizations in the wake of Gustav?

Yet, last night, Palin curled her lip at Obama's experience in this very type of activity.

Irony.

[renate]

45. please please please start a thread about this

:applause:

There really needs to be a backlash about her community-organizer comments. Not only are they ignorant, they are a big old F-U to many of the religious community who do good deeds (and to nonreligious community organizers too, of course, but it's the religious community who need to realize they've been insulted).

I don't think she could cry "you're picking on me again!" if her own words are quoted back to her, preferably by religious leaders, and framed by a few of Bush's comments about letting churches and private organizations pick up the social-services slack.

[Tesibria]

46. I did ...

... here, but it got lost in the flurry ....

[starroute]

44. I'm reminded somehow of Dylan's "Gotta Serve Somebody"

From one of his more religious phases ... but there sure seem to be a lot of people there we can all recognize. The question is picking out who each of them serves.


You may be an ambassador to England or France
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

....

You may be a state trooper, you might be a young Turk
You may be the head of some big TV network
You may be rich or poor, you may be blind or lame
You may be living in another country under another name.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

....

You may be a preacher with your spiritual pride
You may be a city councilman taking bribes on the side
You may be working in a barbershop, you may know how to cut hair
You may be somebody's mistress, may be somebody's heir.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

[tuvor]

49. What, no one's said "Oh, snap!" yet?

Let me be the first.

[BattyDem]

52. LOL ... that's brilliant!

:rofl: