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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:23 AM
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It's time to hit the "executive experience" issue head on. And I don't
think it has to be that difficult. Obama shouldn't be trying to compare his experience to Palin's. It needs to be a comparison between Palin and Bush. A 30 second spot, showing that Bush had more "executive experience" than Palin, and then show where we are after all that "experience". Talk again about how it's about the issues and the solutions to those problems, and that, like McCain, Palin is just more of the same.

Just my thought, but it needs to be confronted. The Repukes just keep repeating it over and over and if it's not counteracted, it will, as with their other propoganda, become a "fact".
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:25 AM
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1. I Like It K&R
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:26 AM
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2. Absolutely on point.
I hope someone hears you.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:29 AM
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3. I want a push-back on this from the DNC. It's the RNC that is pushing
this executive experience thing...time for the DNC to get something out there.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:40 AM
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5. Obama said it, We are the ones we ae waiting for, Lets Organize it.I have a huge distribution circle
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 08:41 AM by Boz
Can someone offer to polish the message up. Its awsome just need it in a narrative to be able to share it, whisper to a scream, Lets make this our quiet storm.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:45 AM
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9. I can try to flesh it out, but would love to have several brains working
on it at once. Not to mention that unlike Palin, I don't overestimate my ability to take on a really important job. :)
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:51 AM
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13. The thought is the seed and its awsome we can all do it together thats why DU is here.
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 08:51 AM by Boz
It is dead bang on.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:37 AM
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4. Brilliant
God, I hope the Obama folks lurk over here every now and then!

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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:41 AM
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7. Thanks. I thought that if they want to push the "executive experience" thing
then acknowledge it, shove it down their throats and pivot back to the message you've been delivering all along...it's about a change. Executive experience doesn't mean squat if your positions are wrong to start with.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:40 AM
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6. Absolutely agree!
The repuke rank and file have glommed onto the experience lie wholeheartedly. (Did we expect anything else?) Another board I post at is filled with repukes dutifully reciting it, in spite of seeing with their own eyes a side by side comparison of Obama's resume vs. the consummate lightweight's.

We absolutely need a rebuttal that's effective, i.e. irrefutable, succinct and easy to understand for the mentally challenged.

The Bush angle is perfect. Excellent suggestion! I'll be using it wherever I go.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:42 AM
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8. Well, there's also McCain's "executive" experience to consider, too.
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 08:43 AM by valerief
According to the right, he has none.

Did you hear how Pickles pronounced executive last night? Execky-tive.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:46 AM
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10. It's Obama Biden v. McCain Palin, or Obama Biden vs. Palin and her VP. It will never be only Obama
versus Palin.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:48 AM
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That is exactly what it is right now. Turn on the MSM...very little talk
about McCain. It's all about Palin and comparing her record to Obama. That is why the pushback is needed and a way to pivot back to Obama's message.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:48 AM
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11. sara had to hire a city administrator
because she herself could not do the job
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FlyEaglesFly Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:51 AM
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12. Just once, once I would like to hear when one of the Republican pundits gets
asked about Palin's experience not to immediately say "Uhhh..well...she has more executive experience than Obama". The talking point memo sent out to all of them must be to deflect the question by talking about Obama rather than answer the question. When they finally do get back to it, they go straight to the "running the town as a mayor gives her more experience than Obama".

Give me a friggin break. I would love to hear the following question to be asked: "For the moment, whatever the circumstances, let's assume McCain/Palin won the election and Palin had to step in as President. Would you, truthfully, feel supremely confident having her sitting across the table from Vladimir Putin or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad with the fate of the world on the line? In this scenario, Obama's experience doesn't matter, since he didn't win the election. Would you feel supremely confident that she was the best person to represent the United States of America, and why?"
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:02 AM
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14. And I'm not wrong. McSame is planning an attack ad that is pushing
Palin's "executive experience" compared to Obama's.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13111.html

Obama's team needs to respond as he has responded to McSame...it's not the experience, it's the judgment. And Palin's views are even farther right than McSame's.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:56 AM
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15. How do we succeed in doing this?
There is a certain segment of the population who are touting these talking points: that she has more experience than Obama.

I was just on vacation in Fenwick Island in Delaware (thank God, a BLUE state). I was having dinner and the waitress who served me and my friend was engaged in a conversation with another waitress. Both women were livid that the media is discussing Palin's daughter being pregnant. One of the waitresses--chest out and with sheer confidence--exclaimed that "she has more experience that Barack Obama!" My friend immediately turned to me dumbfounded. This woman had heard the Republicans and the M$M repeat this talking point over and over again. It didn't matter that it's patently false. It's the fact that this woman repeated the meme with confidence and self assurance. She *knew* that she was right because someone TOLD her this.

After paying for our dinner, she returned to our table to give us a receipt. As we got up from the table, I couldn't help myself. I turned and politely said to her: "I enjoyed the conversation about Governor Palin. Her story is fascinating and you should look into her record more. She in fact does not have more experience than Obama and the media is telling you." Before she could reply, I thanked her for waiting on us and said good night. She just stood there for a minute looking clueless.

Again, thank God that we were in a BLUE state. But what about all the other folks from RED and swing states who have bought into the Palin bullshit? How do we reach those people?

I honestly don't know how we fight back against these falsehoods. The "executive experience" issue could do us a great injustice if we don't fight back effectively.
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