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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:00 PM
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PUGS AND LIEBERMANN KNOW HOW TO GRIND RED MEAT,
AND DEMOCRATS ARE TOO FUCKING TIMID! COMPARE THE SPEECHES THUSFAR TO THE DEM CONVENTION.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:01 PM
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1. STOP YELLING AT ME WITH YOUR CAPSLOCK!!!!
I don't fucking need it.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:08 PM
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2. This is how conventions are supposed to be
ya gotta have at least one night of punching the others guys in the nose. Can be all new age touchy feely all the time.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:19 PM
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4. Too Bad...
...I couldn't stay awake...

Can't wait to see the overnights...
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:01 AM
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13. Do you remember the reaction to the Republican convention of 1992?
The country hated the anger and nastiness of Marilyn Quayle and Pat Buchanan. The already low rated GHWB fell after that convention. What you are going from is an aberration - the fact that the media praised the 2004 hatefast and simultaneously took back there praise of the hopeful, high road Kerry convention. Neither you or me can see the road not traveled. I think that if Kerry had morphed into Michael Moore, the convention would have led to a Bush landslide. (I do not care what Carville says - he is a hypocrite - look at the type of convention he had in 1992)

I think Obama did many things he needed to do. He gave the Clintons so much presence in the convention, that no HRC voter could say she wasn't heard or respected. They in turn used the speeches to move their people. Michelle was re-introduced in an incredibly effective way. Her outstanding speech was immediately validated by the the sweet scene of the Obama kids speaking via satellite to him. This showed rather than said family values. Then there were some good speeches that made the case for Obama over McCain - notably Kerry's wonderful speech that contained many elements others could adapt and use. Topping it all off was Obama's speech, where he was inspirational, had detailed proposals and was Presidential.
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:23 PM
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5. Are you kidding me?
It didn't come across to me that way at all. Very boring speakers.
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AkFemDem Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:57 PM
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6. When did "red meat" become a buzz phrase?? Everyone everywhere stop...
it's making me hungry.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:00 PM
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8. Sam Donaldson in 1992 after Pat Buchanan's speech.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:59 PM
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7. I don't disagree, but I think this is just going to make them look angry and desperate
People whined about lack of red meat in Denver, but when Obama gave his speech and wrapped everything up, I, at least, certainly saw it as an overall perfect package... building to a cresendo with our man, our candidate standing there at the end, and all of us behind him. It was beautiful, moving, inspiring.

This just makes me angry.

Grrrrrrr... I'mma go out and vote Republican. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

David
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:08 PM
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9. I really don't want to think about the repukes "grinding red meat"
Don't they have enough sex scandals to deal with?

:hide:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:10 PM
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10. Shut up..go join them if you
love their fucking red meat so much.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:52 AM
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12. ooooo...showing a little backbone, are we?
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:10 PM
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11. The cable news groups didn't show the Dem speeches
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:05 AM
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14. GRIND RED MEAT?
Are you insane? Thompson managed to come across as a Grumpy Old Man, Lieberman as a snooze (cf. Zell Miller, who was at least engaging), and Bush just looked pathetic.

ANYWAY, I THINK THE COUNTRY HAS HAD ENOUGH RED-MEAT-GRINDING IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS TO LAST IT A LIFETIME.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:07 AM
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15. The dem Convention was perfect
We had better speakers and a better message.
The republicans are coming off snarky and angry,
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