Is Palin against contraceptives too?

[Unsane]

Just wondering if Palin is against the use of condoms and birth control pills.

[rndmprsn]

1. good question...she is a diehard RW social consevative, so my guess is yes...

unfortunately for her family.

[valerief]

2. Yup, yup. Her church only does rhythm. If the husband says it's okay, of course. nt

[Wheezy]

3. I've been wondering this too. kick.

[Lucinda]

4. Shes pro-life, pro-contraceptives and only supports abortion if the mothers life is in danger.

http://www.adn.com/news/politics/elections/governor06/story/44186.html

I've been trying to figure out where she stands on the morning after pill, which some pro-life people do support. Not finding anything on it.

[peace13]

5. No abortion for rape or incest. Go figure. n/t

[Unsane]

6. Yeah, all women better use birth control. Otherwise they'll have to carry to term the rapist's baby.

:crazy:

[Lucinda]

9. Did you see her position on the morning after pill then?

I havent been able to find it...

[im1013]

7. How can that be?????

She's awfully damn extreme.


:wtf:

[seabeyond]

11. i heard she absolutely was against contraceptives. interesting. will have to wait and see on this

i dont remember the source but it wasnt like a poster.

[POAS]

12. It's true, unfortunately

don't have the source in front of me but she said it in an interview and transcript was posted here.

I'll look again and try to find.

[seabeyond]

13. what is true that she is against contraceptives? i know i saw it. n/t

[POAS]

29. Yep I didn't state clearly but

I too have the impression she is anti contraception and I saw a transcript to that effect but cannot find it.

Googling is no help at all with hits coming up on both sides of the issue.

Going to the FFL website (which she has been a member of since 2006) isn't much better as their position is basically "some of us do and some don't oppose contraception.

Her religion "Assemblies of God" is equally split on the subject allowing for contraception in some but not all circumstances based on whether of not it's use violates the Biblical mandates for procreation. Maddeningly ambiguous.

[seabeyond]

32. ya. i know i saw it too. we can wait for it to come back around, it will. n/t

[Lucinda]

14. This comes from her campaign for Gov position, so I think its documented well

I've seen a lot of rumors on the web...more fun that digging for sourced information for some people I guess

[akangel2008]

31. This is correct and has been well talked about in Alaska politics nt

[Lucinda]

38. And online elsewhere, as of late.

[seabeyond]

8. yes. n/t

[Lucinda]

16. Link?

[seabeyond]

21. obviously if you look at the other posters you can observe that another source

gave conflicting info. as i said on my post above, now i will have to do research or wait and hear from her again her views on this. i know i read something that said she opposed birth controls. and other posters here read the same. and no it was not just a poster. i dont remember what it was.

[Lucinda]

33. Link with the FFL official position on contraception

"What is Feminists for Life's position on contraception?
Feminists for Life's mission is to address the unmet needs of women who are pregnant or parenting. Preconception issues including abstinence and contraception are outside of our mission. Some FFL members and supporters support the use of non-abortifacient contraception while others oppose contraception for a variety of reasons. FFL is concerned that certain forms of contraception have had adverse health effects on women.

Our membership enjoys a broad spectrum of opinion that reflects the diversity of opinions among the American public..."

http://www.feministsforlife.org/FAQ/index.htm

As I mentioned elsewhere on the thread, i've only seen links relating to her stated position when she ran for Gov. which i've linked somewhere in the thread. With those she was pro-contraception.

[samdogmom]

10. Yeah! It's abstinence only!

How did this work for her personally? Do you think she'll have a change of heart?

WOW! What a debacle for her!

My question...will she get real now...or just more hardened in her positions?

If people can learn from their mistakes--I'm all for forgiveness.

If they get even more "jack-assy" after a public debacle--I say go get 'em!

[Unsane]

15. amazing

[Lucinda]

17. Link?

[samdogmom]

23. Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Sarah_Palin#Social_issues

"Sex education
According to CNN, in 2006 Palin was a "firm supporter of abstinence-only education in schools."<9> "Explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support," Palin wrote.<10>"

Goggle for yourself if you don't believe what is posted!

[Lucinda]

26. Thats abstinence in sex ed...nothing about contraceptives

[samdogmom]

30. UMMM! If you abstain why would you need a contraceptive?

Am I missing something here? What the heck?

[Lucinda]

34. Shes for teaching abstinence IN SCHOOL, not explicit sex ed

I assume she feels sex ed is the parents repsonsibility, but havent seen that documented.

[samdogmom]

36. Again...who cares where this is taught.

If you abstain there can be no pregnancy...so why do you need contraceptives? If she advocates abstenance...she must not be for contraceptives.

Bottom line...if you're not having sex you don't need protection.

[Lucinda]

37. Her stated position on contraceptives is linked in this thread and on others in GDP

If you prefer "truthiness" thats YOUR choice.

A person who doesn't want their children taught explicit sex ed does not necessarily preach abstinence. I'm sure many do. But their point, is often that it's not the schools job.

[alphafemale]

18. I don't think she's against condoms, but I think she sees most other methods as abortons,

IUD's and the Pill for example are seen by these types as murder because they stop the fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus.

[depakid]

19. The short answer is YES. Birth control = abortion

Sarah Palin is a member of a misnamed group called Feminists for Life. FFL engages in "cultural appropriation" of women's suffrage icons to promote a very woman-unfriendly agenda that--despite attempts to sound "not like those crazies in Operation Rescue"--would not only criminalise abortion but the IUD and hormonal birth control methods, and potentially everything outside the rhythm method.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/29/163234/559/495/579213

This view is also reflected in the Bush Administrations proposed HHS regulations:

In a spectacular act of complicity with the religious right, the Department of Health and Human Services Monday released a proposal that allows any federal grant recipient to obstruct a woman's access to contraception. In order to do this, the Department is attempting to redefine many forms of contraception, the birth control 40% of Americans use, as abortion. Doing so protects extremists under the Weldon and Church amendments. Those laws prohibit federal grant recipients from requiring employees to help provide or refer for abortion services. In the "Definitions" section of the HHS proposal it states,

"Abortion: An abortion is the termination of a pregnancy. There are two commonly held views on the question of when a pregnancy begins. Some consider a pregnancy to begin at conception (that is, the fertilization of the egg by the sperm), while others consider it to begin with implantation (when the embryo implants in the lining of the uterus). A 2001 Zogby International American Values poll revealed that 49% of Americans believe that human life begins at conception. Presumably many who hold this belief think that any action that destroys human life after conception is the termination of a pregnancy, and so would be included in their definition of the term "abortion." Those who believe pregnancy begins at implantation believe the term "abortion" only includes the destruction of a human being after it has implanted in the lining of the uterus."

The proposal continues,

"Both definitions of pregnancy inform medical practice. Some medical authorities, like the American Medical Association and the British Medical Association, have defined the term "established pregnancy" as occurring after implantation. Other medical authorities present different definitions. Stedman's Medical Dictionary, for example, defines pregnancy as "he state of a female after conception and until the termination of the gestation." Dorland's Medical Dictionary defines pregnancy, in relevant part, as "the condition of having a developing embryo or fetus in the body, after union of an oocyte and spermatozoon."

Up until now, the federal government followed the definition of pregnancy accepted by the American Medical Association and our nation's pregnancy experts, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, which is: pregnancy begins at implantation. With this proposal, however, HHS is dismissing medical experts and opting instead to accept a definition of pregnancy based on polling data. It now claims that pregnancy begins at some biologically unknowable moment (there's no test to determine if a woman's egg has been fertilized). Under these new standards there would be no way for a woman to prove she's not pregnant. Thus, any woman could be denied contraception under HHS' new science.

More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cristina-page/hhs-moves-to-define-contr_b_112887.html

[Lisa0825]

20. the group she belongs to is an extremist group as far as birth control goes...

Birth Control Pills, IUDs, and Morning After Pills are all considered abortofacients by their definition., and condoms aren't effective enough for them to advocate, so basically there is no good contraceptive other than "hope and pray" in their minds.

[Gore1FL]

22. I have heard she is not against contraception.

[kestrel91316]

25. She's not opposed to the type of contraception known as abstinence.

She is a member of FFL, and they oppose virtually all EFFECTIVE forms of BC.

[vaberella]

28. Exactly. But she's against condoms, morning after pills, and the such. n/t

[Lucinda]

35. Thats correct. Her position and FFL's are linked upthread.

[kestrel91316]

24. I think we can safely assume so.

She belongs to a church that is almost of the quiverfull persuasion, IIRC.

[vaberella]

27. Yes. Abstinence or nothing at all. n/t

[SeaLyons]

39. Yes, she is....

as far right wing nut as you can get.