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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:45 PM
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If what is said at the 6:00 Mark in This Video Is True - Palin Is GONE
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 05:22 PM by democrat2thecore
Here is the chairman of the Alaskan Independence Party saying (on video) that Sarah Palin was a MEMBER of the A.I.P and switched to the Republicans before she became Mayor of Wasilla to "get along and go along" and to "move up"....He also says she is "pretty well sympathetic because of her former membership."

Watch 6:00 - 6:45 in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHFY1otOWjQ

If it's true (and no reason to believe it's not) she is doomed as VP nominee.

To add insult to injury, here's Palin addressing (by video) the AIP Convention in March of this year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:46 PM
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1. This Would Be Akin To A Democratic Candidate Being a Member of the ACP
prior to being elected to local office.
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RelativelyJones Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:17 PM
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31. K&R
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:32 PM
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54. here's the link to their homepage:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:47 PM
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2. So... she supported Alaska separating from the union? That's kind of
unamerican.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:51 PM
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6. Uh...yeah....read some of the comments about the "tyrannical United States"
She's finished if she was a member of this party.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:58 PM
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11. Country First is McCain's slogan
but now we see, Palin thinks Alaska should be the country SHE puts first!
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:05 PM
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23. Country First is a radio station slogan...
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:25 PM
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42. snicker. n/t
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:02 AM
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58. "Country First"
I love the smell of irony in the morning.

How wonderful is it that his own slogan may end up being the reason she gets booted off the island?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:03 PM
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20. Very. n/t
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:00 PM
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51. Well does it bolster her international experience?
:shrug:

-Hoot
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:30 PM
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52. that was a big deal for a while until the leader was murdered.
then it died down.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:48 PM
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3. This will be Poison in any (other than Southern) "Red" states.
This pick is also an attempt to keep the Southern Strategy alive.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:49 PM
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4. hearsay. she didnt say it.
crazy zz top alaska dude did.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:54 PM
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8. Why would he lie? She also sent a video message to this convention wishing them luck! -nt
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:59 PM
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12. he might not be lying.
however it cant be proven.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:02 PM
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17. It's a registered political party - was she a registered AI?
Are there membership rolls? It certainly can be proved.
Unfortunately, it's Labor Day.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:04 PM
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21. the smoking gun in that tape
is him stating she jettisoned the party to pursue her own political career with the intention of implementing AI policies. however there is no tape of her saying it.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:07 PM
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24. If she was a member - she's got to go
It's like the fringe separatists getting a member (former member) into the highest levels of the "enemy camp!"
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:00 PM
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14. Well here's a howdy do for ya
Aren't voter registration records a part of the public record?
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:01 PM
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16. it wont matter if she's registered as an independent.
many swing voters are registered independent
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:55 PM
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50. If she was a registered member of the Alaskan Independence PArty
it sure as hell will.

They are currently 4% of the Alaskan registered voters.
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Christian30 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:21 PM
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35. Depends on the state
they are in New York, but not in California. I don't know about Alaska.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:02 PM
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19.  So? Make her deny it
This isn't a wild rumor about her personal life.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:04 PM
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22. that's not the question


The question is did John McCain know about it? Didn't it worry him? etc
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 04:32 AM
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65. It's true
And Crazy ZZ Top Alaska Dude is Symbolman's brother in law, and he's a great guy, actually.

ABC did a story and quoted Symbolman's sister, who is the Chairman of the AIP. NY Times is reporting it, too.
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 06:27 AM
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70. Yep...
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:50 PM
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5. Some Republican operative probably vetted this and thought Alaskan Independence Party was Alaskan
INDEPENDENTS Party.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:53 PM
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7. LOL! Probably.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:33 PM
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46. That's what they get for hiring for ideology rather than competence.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:56 PM
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9. So Obama knew a guy who was a memeber of Weather Underground about 30 years ago..
but this is AOK for the next possible POTUS? One more chink in the armour... I like this much better then "Baby gate".. this goes to PALIN's judgement - not that of her family. Keep this bumped!
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:46 PM
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49. but Sen. Obama did NOT address the 2008 Weatherman Underground Convention
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 05:51 PM by Douglas Carpenter
Sarah Palin DID address the 2008 Alaskan Independence Party convention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4iCDBIAde8

And no one has EVER suggested that Barack Obama was EVER a member of Weatherman Underground - Sarah Palin WAS a member of the Alaskan Independence Party
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:58 PM
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10. Video of Gov. Palin addressing AIP for their convention
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4iCDBIAde8

Alaska Governor Palin addresses Alaskan Independence Party Statewide Convention March 2008
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:00 PM
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13. Yes - that combined with the other video = DAMNING.
Check this out from their FAQ:

Q: Would I lose my U.S. citizenship?

A: Depending on the form of independence, several forms of citizenship would be possible, including the retention of U.S. citizenship or dual citizenship. However, considering the moral, educational, and economic decay of the U.S., Alaskans' who hold themselves to a higher standard might very well decide to at least maintain an arm's length distance from a country in decline.

So much for God Bless America, huh?

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:01 PM
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15. And that video was sent to the SAME conference
where the chair claimed she was a member before becoming mayor.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:09 PM
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25. this is damning. Actually, I think EXPLOSIVE
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:11 PM
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26. I agree - THIS is what could do her in -nt
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toddGA Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:13 PM
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28. Wow. I think this video needs to get its own thread.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:23 PM
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37. I just added it to the OP as well -nt
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:22 PM
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36. These videos need to be sent to MSM outlets ASAP
Your post along with the OP need to be made widely known.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:02 PM
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18. This makes baby-gate seem like an afternoon special!
We need 20 threads of this! And emails sent to every news source.

What could possibly be more unamerican than to not want to be part of America!

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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:16 PM
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29. This is crushing
this is a hammer for the campaign to swing that hits in multiple areas with great effect, if true.

She's a super way out loon. Probably the most freakish far Reich candidate for national office since television.

She even makes her idol Pat Buchanan look middle of the road.

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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:13 PM
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27. Are there any scary/uppity black folks in that organization?
If not it's OK with the freepers -- hell they still fly the confederate flag, they're OK with the separatist stuff (for nice white folk that is.)
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:16 PM
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30. VIDEO NO LONGER AVAILABLE....hmmmmmmm
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toddGA Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:18 PM
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32. Video message from her addressing AIP convention is still UP.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:23 PM
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38. It's called Sedition !!!!!
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:19 PM
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33. I hope someone who know how to save these is doing so.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:25 PM
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43. saved! -nt
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:25 PM
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39. It's still up - and I've got both of them saved -nt
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:56 AM
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57. I just watched both of them.
I am speechless. These guys are nuts, want to become their own country?????? Oh my!
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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:21 PM
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34. Could be bigger than babygate nt
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IamyourTVandIownyou Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:25 PM
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40. dupe
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 05:26 PM by IamyourTVandIownyou
.
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toddGA Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:25 PM
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41. TPM has a lot more on this:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:28 PM
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44. Which country first, Sarah?
Alaska or the US? If seperatist Sarah has the nerve to say "the US", then she should be asked "as of when?".
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:29 PM
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45. It's actually a very good - and responsible - question to ask! -nt
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:33 PM
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47. Here is another youtube Video -- Sarah Palin Addresses the Alaskan Independence Party - 2008 Convent
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:41 PM
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48. RECOMMEND!! RECOMMEND!!! RECOMMEND!!! PUSH THIS STORY!! PUSH THIS STORY!!
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:12 PM
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56. I did! I did! I did! 5 stars, & added to favorites - and left a stinging comment!
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:31 PM
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53. wow
Palin must really support states rights, she is one of few members of goverment that would allow states to constitutionally split away. No sedition, nothing illegal, but I think she would logially support states rights for medical marijuana and prostitution.....The question is, would she use the office of VP to advance the cause of Alaskan independence. Personally if I were Alaskan I would stay in the USA so as the US military would protect me from the Russians.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:51 PM
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55. Hoo boy
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 06:56 PM by starroute
To be perfectly fair, they could probably best be described as extreme libertarians -- but they sure don't seem picky about the company they keep.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/nations/sovereign/sover/eme...
In November 2006, SVR and the Middlebury Institute co-hosted the First North American Separatist Convention in the Montpelier State House (which, ironically, is graced by a large statue of Lincoln). The secessionists-only conference brought together several groups, including the Free Hawaii movement and members of the Alaskan Independence Party. But the bulk of the crowd even then was made up of Southern groups including the racist League of the South; Christian Exodus, a theocracy-minded outfit headed by a former league leader from Texas; and the Abbeville Institute, which was established by Donald Livingston in 2003 after he finally left the League of the South due to its "political baggage." Livingston's institute is devoted to the "Southern tradition," including what it describes as the ignored "achievements of white people in the South."

In October 2007, the league, Naylor and Sale met again in Chattanooga for the Second Annual North American Secession conference, an event organized by the Middlebury Institute and this time officially co-hosted by the league. The conference issued the "Chattanooga Declaration" -- a document that pronounced the "old left-right split meaningless and dead" and called for "diversity among human societies." It was while in Chattanooga that Sale spoke so fondly of his Southern roots.

Sale defended the league to reporters, telling The (U.K.) Independent that fall that he wanted to show the "folks up north" that league members are "legitimate colleagues" who have been wrongly declared "racists." (Sale declined to discuss the league, its history or anything else with the Report, saying by E-mail that he did not trust it "for one instant to be fair or truthful.") Sale has hotly contested the SPLC designation of the league as a hate group, telling The Associated Press in 2007 that the league -- whose leader, former university professor Michael Hill, has engaged in such activities as sending out E-mails mocking the names of his African-American students -- "has not done or said anything racist in its 14 years of existence."

See also a blog called Alaska Pride for a 2007 entry titled "Alaskan Independence Party Representatives Participate In Second North American Secessionist Convention In Chattanooga, TN." (http://alaskapride.blogspot.com/2007/10/alaskan-indepen... )

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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:03 AM
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59. Every right winger...
who questioned Michelle Obama's patriotism on TV had better come forward and start bashing the hell out of Sarah Palin's lack of patriotism. That includes Ciny McCain.
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:07 AM
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60. Go listen to Palin's video about 'what does the VP do?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=006axc2aELE


It's only 46 seconds long. Listen past the point where she says "what does the VP do?" She wants to make sure the job would benefit ALASKA.
Not the rest of us. Just ALASKA.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:48 AM
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61. I really, really want this to be true; there is clear-cut proof, right?
Like a registration or something, right? Because I don't want this to blow back into our faces and keep her on the ticket.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 04:37 AM
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67. I believe so. There's an article that ABC news reported on it. Link Below:
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:50 AM
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62. This actually explains why she accepted the VP pick then.
Because it would be the ULTIMATE infiltration ever. Of course, I am also not discounting the massive ego trip being VP would be for her. But yeah, this is just disturbing to see.
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:57 AM
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63. Jaw meets floor...
Wow, she is Toast... and so is McCain.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 04:28 AM
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64. ttt
:kick:

don't some Duers advocate secession of blue / red states? ;-)
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 04:36 AM
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66. The first speaker remind me a Gabby Johnson in Blazing Saddles
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everything-bolt-up Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 06:14 AM
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68. Kick and Recommend!!! We need to get this out there - hammer the life out of this!!
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 06:23 AM
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69. I want a picture of her trailer in the woods
I can't believe this family doesn't have a "compound" in the woods somewhere, complete with a big-ass satellite dish in the backyard and a beat-up old pickup in the front yard (nothing against anyone who owns a beat-up old pickup).
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:04 AM
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71. She would never welcome the Democratic Party that way
To add insult to injury, here's Palin addressing (by video) the AIP Convention in March of this year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI


She would never welcome the Democratic Party that way and say "Keep up the good work and God bless you."
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:43 AM
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72. Seccessionism is a perfectly valid political stance
However, it does bring up the question of why someone who doesn't want to be part of the US nonetheless wantsto be VP of it.
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