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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:40 AM
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McCain/Palin want to issue "rapist bill of rights" where every rapist can choose the mother of his
baby.

That's inline with with Palin's and McCain's stance on abortion rights where rape victims will be refused the right to choose. The rapist has full rights to choose the mother of his baby.

Read this on a blog today and it's fucking brilliant. Define those two before they can define themselves. Not to mention this tells the truth about them.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:41 AM
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1. George Lakoff: Reframe the Debate....
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:44 AM
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2. Kicked!!
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:45 AM
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3. Wait, what?
???
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:47 AM
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5. Palin doesn't support abortion in cases of rape and incest
furthermore she thinks if they have an abortion they should go to jail for murder.

Hence "The Rapist's Bill of Rights". Every rapist can choose the mother of his baby and every victim can not choose the father.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:04 AM
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14. Brilliant.
Kudos to you and NYC_SKIP for the explanation.


"Rapist's Bill of Rights". Oh, God, that's wonderful.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:10 AM
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18. Those are the marching orders my friend
Whack those fuckers with it.

HARD!!!!
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:30 AM
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23. I think Palin should go to jail for murdering women - mothers will die
if she has her way.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:48 AM
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6. My interpretation...
If abortion is forbidden by law, then a man could theoretically select any young woman to be the potential father of his child.

Sort of like, "I see that attractive young lady, I want HER to give birth to my child." No law can stop that possible pregnancy from becoming his child.

That's my read.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:04 AM
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16. yeah but I can castrate him for trying.
I wish a swift death to every rapist on earth.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:09 AM
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17. Can, and should, and an argument in favor of the second ammendment.
If you could even get to a phone, by the time help arrived, it would be too late.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:36 AM
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26. Not me.
Just streamline them into the general population of the nearest maximum security prison.

NO administrative segregation. General population.

Let nature take it's course.

MSNBC could make specials.

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rabbits4love Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:46 AM
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4. and what a great story to tell the kid
later in life

'mommy wheres daddy and where did i come from'

'well honey, your daddy brutally raped me... '
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:49 AM
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7. ...And everytime I look at you in the dark, I see your father's eyes
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:51 AM
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8. Why should rapists be denied the right to be a father?
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 01:52 AM by Cronus Protagonist
After all, if you're a Republican, you wouldn't want your rapist friends to have their children killed by the ungrateful victim.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:55 AM
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10. WHy do Republicans support rapists and child molestors?
ANy time you get into a discussion with a Republican bring that up.

It stings and it fucking hurts as it accuratly describes their position.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:02 AM
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13. because republicans
are either full blown psychopaths or sub-clinical psychopaths,or abusers ,narcissists ,authoritarians and bullies.People believe certain things because it is in their personality to be attracted to it.Shit goes well with..more shit, pissy additudes or maybe bar flies and parasites
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:54 AM
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9. K&R, Excellent
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:01 AM
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12. Thanks
This should be repeated every time those two are mentioned.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:56 AM
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11. the only right a rapist has in my mind...
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 01:59 AM by undergroundpanther
is the right to a swift and total penis removal.Use your dick as a weapon against innocent people you should be disarmed.Any crazed gunman shooting people on the street would not be permitted to have a gun,so why should a rapist keep his weapon,a penis can be removed without damaging the elimination structures he'll just have to sit down to pee,for the rest of his life.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:50 AM
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47. No good. You don't need a dick to commit rape. Amputate their
arms AND their dicks. Let's see 'em overpower and violate someone THEN.
Or...nail their dicks to a tree, hand 'em a knife, and set the tree on fire.
Waste of a good tree though...
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 03:58 AM
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48. yep

Honestly,I start talking about chopping off body parts only because of anti-death penalty people who think a rapist's life has value.. I would rather just kill off all the rapists.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:04 AM
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15. That's a brilliant way to express this! nt
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:35 AM
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25. rape isn't about sex it is about domination and abuse
the weapon is a gun you should not have one a penis same thing BOTH are being used as WEAPONS to MAIM a person,rape maims a person's mind and life just because the wound isn't in the flesh visible like a gunshot does not mean a wounding did not occur,You wound innocent people just to do it for a power kick, you are a threat and so must be disarmed because you are dangerous to society,the community and safety of persons.They lock up people for being depressed but rapists are gonna get to decide an unwanted child's fate? That is just EVIL.

It's like a mass murderer getting to say who gets to keep the dead bodies and guns.Of course he'll pick someone who he is controlling or using.

Rape is a crime and one way to end a particular crime is to make the crime too costly personally for the potential criminal to desire to do it. I like the idea of anti rape devices. Like the Rapex.
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/2140,features,rapex-the-internal-anti-rape-device


I like the idea the rapist has to go to the ER to get it off and there knowing he is a rapist they can put his sorry ass under and cut his penis off.
Forced castration can really make a male that misuses his penis think twice if he knows he will lose it forever and have to"pee" like the women he once thought himself above and entitled to harm.

And males,don't whine to me about women hurting males with anti-rape devices. Gay guys could use it to against rapists and children who may be harmed or molested by adults too. I don't care about rapists lives or well being ,I'd like to see them all dead.Rapex devices could bring the hidden facts to light.So males will have to face the truth.The truth victims and people who help victims of rape already know. But some remain in denial about or whom seek to 'normalize' a violent cruel criminal act.

In reality,males have raped more people than women since the dawn of time.To stop rape males must be made to OWN the problem and face harsh personally life altering consequences to their intimate person..and maybe some males might realize rape is a crime,very,very harmful to the victims. When in a PATRIARCHY males who rape,and the patriarchy by males for males encourages bystanders and the just world believers to blame the victims raped for a rapists choice to rape someone. Rape is 99% a male problem,male abuse of power that has been sanctioned by male dominated cultures .Rape is a choice.a CHOICE to do violence to another person.It is no different than blowing a victims kneecaps out with a gun so the victim will never walk again..Rape destroys a victims sanity,ruins their life and sexuality for sometimes for the rest of their life.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:11 AM
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19. There are some laws I will never recognize as just and worthy of obedience
Abortion prohibitions fall under that category.

If abortion is banned all of us should pledge to be NULLIFYING JURORS in the event we are ever called upon to serve on a jury in the event that a woman or doctor (or other "accomplices") are arrested and put on trial for breaking abortion prohibitions.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:11 AM
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20. Rec #5...and a kick because the OP makes a powerful point. nt
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:23 AM
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22. Thanks nt
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:14 AM
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21. Excellent!!
That is a line I will be using - thanks.
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votetastic Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:32 AM
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24. Excellent frame!
Although I never understood how government could make an exception for rape when abortion is outlawed. Would rape victims have to prove they were raped? Would it have to go before a court of law? Proof of guilt could take over 9 months, and in some cases, that isn't even guaranteed....
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:48 AM
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27. Such an exception would promote fake rape claims
and a whole pile of future Duke Lacrosse cases.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:54 AM
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28. It IS fucking brilliant!!! We really do have to get down and dirty in this election.
The ante has been raised. What the Dems should be doing THIS INSTANT is setting up a telethon - on camera or on the internet - for the hurricane victims. Doing good, raising money, sponsoring entertainment (think of all the marquee-name talent in music, comedy, and film, that lines up behind the Dems every election cycle), and yanking the attention back from the holier-than-thou GOP convention. They're gonna be making as much hay about it as they can get away with - how newly sanctimonious and compassionate they're all gonna be about the hurricane victims here and try to make you forget about what happened during Hurricane Katrina - ON THEIR WATCH, while THEIR guy frittered the day away eating birthday cake in the sunshine with george w. bush.

We shouldn't let them forget it. And we should grab the spotlight away from them. Fuck it! It's Labor Day. Jerry Lewis made telethons on this day practically de rigueur! America's already softened up for it. This will just be for a different and very worthy cause than MS.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:02 AM
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29. K&R
to you for thinking of this.

Of course the whining will commence if and when any of us use this logic - which is actual logic.

------

Gilligan
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:23 AM
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30. Brilliant framing. NT
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:42 AM
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31. We need this to go viral!
:thumbsup:

:kick:
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:29 AM
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32. up
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:17 PM
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33. up
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:01 PM
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37. up
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:07 PM
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41. up
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:52 PM
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42. up
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:21 PM
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43. up
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:25 PM
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46. up
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:19 PM
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34. Republicans support rapists rights to procreate as much as they want.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:43 PM
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36. Yup, Palin supports the rights of rapists and Pedophiles to choose the mothers
of their children.

That's pretty sick.

I wonder what she would do to her daughter if she was raped and had an abortion. Would she disown her as a murderer?
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:23 PM
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35. kick
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:11 PM
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38. K&R
Brilliant!
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:22 PM
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40. Thanks
and up!!!!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:11 PM
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39. Ka-ching!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:40 PM
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44. i am going ot use that. harsh. i like harsh when talking rape.
make people blink
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:12 PM
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45. Email some of the bloggers as well
It's highly effective it seems when they are all on the same page with a story.

The "Rapists Bill of Rights" is something that's DEVASTATING to the Republicans. Highlights even more that he made a terrible decision where he could have been a hero selecting a pro choice Veep.
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